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What if WW2 never happened?
Topic Started: May 31 2018, 06:45 AM (109 Views)
DevilFish
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LCDR Paul "Voodoo" Carter
So, we'll accept that Hitler took power and set Germany on the path to war. But, in 1937, after he reveals his plans to his subordinates, for world domination, several of the Generals are horrified that Germany could be plunged into another horrific war.
Hitler and his main henchmen are "removed" in early 1938.

Fast forward to 1945, and a now recovered Germany is hosting an airshow at Berlin Tempelhof.

The RAF send over some of it's premier fighters for display.

One of these is the Boulton Paul Defiant, seen as the premier anti-bomber fighter. Resplendent in it's highly polished metalwork, the Defiant, along with the RAF's main frontline fighter, the Hurricane, were stars of the show.

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Disorder
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Lt Paddy 'Chancer' Boyle
Thats a beautiful metal finish :clap:
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Mark M
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Lovely mate
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Lt. Derek 'Smurfy' Reeve
A beautiful finish Paul, Alclad?
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Simon G
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Ooh . . . Errr . . . Very nice. :cool
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LCDR Paul "Voodoo" Carter
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May 31 2018, 10:46 AM
A beautiful finish Paul, Alclad?
Yes. High Speed Silver and Airframe Aluminium

They come out very nice, but I have a problem with the names. The "Aluminium" looks more like Steel (the darker colour), and the "High Speed Silver", isn't.....High speed silver is the unofficial name for the silver used on post war RAF aircraft, either all over, or on the undersides. That finish is painted on, and is more like an aluminium paint. Alclad's version is definitely a bare metal look.
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Lt. Derek 'Smurfy' Reeve
Seeing as how it is a whiff of sorts perhaps it wasn't HSS but highly polished metal for the display, whatever, it still looks good.
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May 31 2018, 12:28 PM
Seeing as how it is a whiff of sorts perhaps it wasn't HSS but highly polished metal for the display, whatever, it still looks good.
In this case it would be polished bare metal.

My problem is Alclad are selling a paint as HSS, which isn't.
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DevilFish
May 31 2018, 12:47 PM
Olde Farte
May 31 2018, 12:28 PM
Seeing as how it is a whiff of sorts perhaps it wasn't HSS but highly polished metal for the display, whatever, it still looks good.
In this case it would be polished bare metal.

My problem is Alclad are selling a paint as HSS, which isn't.
Which is what I said......................... :whistle

Have you thought about mentioning it to them? They have a contact page here. http://alclad2.com/contact/consumers/

I'm surprised they haven't been screaming their heads off over on Britmodeller, seems right up their street as it would be a hanging offence there.
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LCDR Paul "Voodoo" Carter
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May 31 2018, 01:32 PM


Have you thought about mentioning it to them? They have a contact page here. http://alclad2.com/contact/consumers/

I'm surprised they haven't been screaming their heads off over on Britmodeller, seems right up their street as it would be a hanging offence there.
I complained about some of their products at Telford last year and walked away with a bunch of free paints. But the complaint was that they weren't spraying properly.

I'm happy with the way it comes out, as long as I don't use it as HSS. I have better paints for that.
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Lt. Paul 'Red Dog' Rose
very nice, kinda works in that finish

and an interesting ATL
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actually its a VERY interesting ATL

if it wasnt for WW2 then.........

we wouldnt have had the massive leap in armament development that we got
america wouldnt have been the massive manufacturing base it has become......or the big player on the worlds scene
and neither would USSR have become what it did/has,.......and the communist block wouldnt have happened.......or indeed NATO
we wouldnt have had the break up of the empire in the same way
no nuclear weapons or space race in the way we know it
Edited by beowulf, May 31 2018, 03:53 PM.
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Totally Tonkas Bonkas !!
That Defiant looks so right in that NMF .....I really like that !! :wub:
No WW2....that certainly raises some debate ....as beowulf says ...no arms race / space race / nukes .
Very thought provoking .

Andy
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LCDR Paul "Voodoo" Carter
That is the thing, isn't it? I've seen people do Spitfire Mk24s in pre-war colours, with the "WW2 didn't happen" tag. Well, if WW2 didn't happen, the Spit 24 wouldn't exist! In fact, in my time line, the Spitfire would be a minor player, equipping maybe 2 squadrons at most. It was expensive and hard to manufacture, so, it's unlikely that in a peacetime environment, it would have survived, leaving the Hurricane the premier fighter.
Engine and weapon development would have stalled too.
I think the jet engine would still be around, just as a research project, as Whittle and that German guy both had prototypes before the war. Maybe Germany takes the lead on jet and rocket technology?
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Don't forget the Soviet Union had already arisen and they could still have annexed the Bloc countries, Japan had already caused big problems in the far East long before major events in Europe so there would probably have been enough for the world to kick off with WW-2. Don't forget also that if it hadn't happened some of us may not necessarily have been born because of jobless families and inherent poverty. We would not have had displaced foreign fighters over here which alone created many mixed race marriages and families with others being conceived behind the Nissen huts so to speak. No RACISM intended.

Ernest Rutherford had conceived the idea of splitting the atom during the early years of the 20th Century so Nuclear technology was already around.

It does make one wonder though how things could have turned out.

Edited by Olde Farte, Jun 1 2018, 08:38 AM.
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