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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 24 2013, 06:33 PM (285 Views) | |
| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 06:33 PM Post #1 |
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Hi Guys im after some advice as many of you know i have a bridge cammera, as i cant afford / justify a DSLR at present but ive also been lacking in photo editing software, well i now have a copy of phtoshop from 2005 which will do me fine, but what i need is practicle advice how to use it for aircraft, i have a basic book on it and ive done bits to some of my photos but any help would be usefull heres what ive played with today (remembering the effects of photobucket as well) seems a bit 'bright' to me ![]() ? a bit dull, ok its grey on grey ![]() im much happier with this one
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| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 06:44 PM Post #2 |
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| Battenburg the third | Jan 24 2013, 08:51 PM Post #3 |
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Happy to give advice on these shots so long as I dont get lambasted or the normal "they are only for fun" etc so I do not come across as some harsh idiot. please let me know either way and I'll be happy to share the techniques I use. Just so you know I have seen loads of people with expensive camera gear that cannot take a decent shot for toffee so it is not about the gear you use, it is about getting the right shot and using the elements out in the real world to your advantage and not detriment |
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| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 08:58 PM Post #4 |
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James as i said in my first post i want to learn so will take any advice you can give these are random shots from my collection i know that some i wernt taken in the best place re sun ect but what im after is practicle advice re photoshop |
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| Battenburg the third | Jan 24 2013, 09:22 PM Post #5 |
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Ok, Picture 1 Composition is good, looks a bit blurred to be honest (i know for prop blur etc) but you can see blur in the pilot, canon tip etc What can be done with this shot. 1). Less exposure, looks over exposed. Instead of ramping this up, have you got a "Fill Light" option in Photoshop? It will also stop the photo from looking as washed out as it is. I am not too sure which version 2005? I am guessing CS2 as this has just become freeware? 2). Phto is noisy, I am not sure if CS2 has a noise reduction filter on, I am pretty sure it does. If not there is some pretty good freeware out there which I mentioned to you before. Try increasing the noise reduction to 50%+ 3). Have you got a masking stencil on this version of Photoshop? A useful, if not invaluable tool to use as it brings out the detail on the edges of the main object to make it stand out (example of that below:) ![]() 4). the photo could be done with being leveled as well 5). More saturation could be required as well. A simple move on the saturation bar on would cure this Photo 2 Good definition and colour, especially with the weather and little light. Not much can be done with this shot, maybe reduce the exposure a little and use the fill light tobring out the jet a bit, sharpening mask and a bit of noise reduction. Have you considered using this shot for HDR? It would bring out the clouds behind it no end and add more depth to the airframe Photo 3. A good shot making the use of the afternoon light on runway 25 approach, a bit of noise reduction maybe Photo 4 No real comments Photo 5 Noise and light filling maybe. I do have to say I have not used photoshop for a number of years now. I do find it too much and too complex for what I do wioth my shots. Adobe Lightroom works just as good and is easier to use, so if you do struggle, let me know and i'll tyr and get you a copy. Also, all cameras do suffer with noise, my DSLR is a lot worse than my old Canon 30D for noise, but this is simply edited out later on. Just keep trying, use the light available and enjoy what you do |
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| Homewrecker | Jan 24 2013, 09:29 PM Post #6 |
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Photoshop can be very scary, I've seen my other half use it and it leaves me in awe! Practice, play and perfect :-) Adam |
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| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 09:30 PM Post #7 |
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Thanks james ill have a look the photoshop in the moring and look for the tools youve surgested i was going to get cs2 but this morning was offered cs4 from a work mate this morning her brought it round at lunch ( hes wife just biught cs6?) |
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| Battenburg the third | Jan 24 2013, 09:36 PM Post #8 |
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if you get on with those packages, fine. i found them too clunky, and use a lot of memory up on the computer. all of the guys i know use lightroom, which is a lot easier to use. if you wanted to send me a few of your shots i can have a play with them for you? |
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| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 09:39 PM Post #9 |
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Ive got you emsil ill send you a couple tommorow but can you list ehat youve done with them so i can see examples and learn on my phone at the mo |
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| Battenburg the third | Jan 24 2013, 09:40 PM Post #10 |
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sure not an issue - the larger the file the better |
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| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 09:42 PM Post #11 |
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Ibe got all the originals so ill send you a couple arghhh fat fingers |
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| davedubya | Jan 24 2013, 09:46 PM Post #12 |
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There's no particular right or wrong way to do it - it's down to personal preference about how you want the shot to look. Ideally, you only really want to use Photoshop for levels adjustments and adding some contrast. I tend to only use three things in Photoshop - levels, dodge tool, and burn tool. Sharpen tools are usually best left alone (or used on in very miminal amounts). There are some Auto settings, but they don't always work too well with aircraft shots. If your camera does it, shoot photos in a RAW mode and over-expose a little. And aim for the lowest ISO setting neccessary for the conditions. My quick opinion on each photo: 1. Looks like it just needs a levels tweak to bring the shadows back in. 2. Other than the grey on grey, which is hard to avoid, looks fine. 3. Noticable processing halo around the aircraft, possibly due to over-sharpening. 4. Looks fine, but maybe needs leveling. 5. Try "dodging" the darker areas to make image noise less noticable. Otherwise, just experiment with the tools. Keep trying an image several times, making different adjustments, saving different versions and progress over time. |
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| Mark M | Jan 24 2013, 10:05 PM Post #13 |
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Dave whats the dodge tool and what does it do |
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| davedubya | Jan 25 2013, 09:13 AM Post #14 |
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The dodge and burn tools basically allow you to adjust exposure in specific parts of your image and add contrast. The burn tool lets you darken areas. The dodge tool lets you lighten areas. Instead of adjusting over the whole image at once, dodge and burn only work on the parts of the image that you use the brush on. Have a watch of this tutorial - http://www.photoanswers.co.uk/Video/Search...g-in-Photoshop/ - it's give you the basic idea of how to use it. |
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| Mark M | Jan 25 2013, 09:48 AM Post #15 |
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thanks Dave thats great |
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