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Mothra Vs. Godzilla(1964); Discuss the film here.
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Mar 30 2008, 01:20 AM
Well I respect his opinion and every else's opinion (That includes your Mr. Packmule) on Mothra vs Godzilla (1964), so Im sure he and others will respect my opinion on this film

When I started this site, Matthew, I did so with the intent of keeping this hangout civil, tolerant and respectful, of others and their opinions, something you have always expressed towards others here, as have I and the other members. You can be sure this kind of disagreement wouldn't...couldn't happen at some of the larger kaiju message boards without, unfortunately, some form or sarcasm, acrimony and possibly even ridicule. More than anything, this kind of saddens me more than it upsets me.
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of cause I respect it even if I disagree


Good to hear (well its really read) that, also there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with me, Packmule disagrees with me on Mothra vs Godzilla (1964) and some other things.

If I might add in, I dont like people insulting things I like when I just said I like it, on MSN and IMDB it has happened, I really dont like people like "inkrediblejoe" (He called me a Douchbag for protecting Freddy's Dead) and "tallicathomps", they're attitude towards me was disgraceful, I shouldnt have even bothered defending Freddy's Dead against immature people like them, you cant knock sense into jerks.
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Mar 30 2008, 01:48 AM
Good to hear (well its really read) that, also there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with me, Packmule disagrees with me on Mothra vs Godzilla (1964) and some other things.

If I might add in, I dont like people insulting things I like when I just said I like it, on MSN and IMDB it has happened, I really dont like people like "inkrediblejoe" (He called me a Douchbag for protecting Freddy's Dead) and "tallicathomps", they're attitude towards me was disgraceful, I shouldnt have even bothered defending Freddy's Dead against immature people like them, you cant knock sense into jerks.

While Freddy's Dead (only ones I liked was 1 and 3 and I almost liked 5) I didn't get into myself it's stupid to insult a person for liking something you don't....as a matter of fact I copped similar abuse for the fact I didn't like The Matrix and for the fact I liked the 1986 Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 more then the original (I loved both films though), it's quite ridiculous that someone would place such importance of a film that they would find it grounds to make a personal attack on someone if they happen to have their own views.
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Mar 30 2008, 02:48 AM
Packmule disagrees with me on Mothra vs Godzilla (1964) and some other things


That's true. It's also never been a problem and never will be. ;)

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If I might add in, I dont like people insulting things I like when I just said I like it, on MSN and IMDB it has happened, I really dont like people like "inkrediblejoe" (He called me a Douchbag for protecting Freddy's Dead) and "tallicathomps", they're attitude towards me was disgraceful
I've heard a lot of negative things about IMDB forums which makes me wonder if IMDB can, or will, do anything about it.

Obviously some "thread drift" has occurred in this thread, which is why I'm going to touch on this as well, at least while I'm thinking about:

-as I mentioned in the forum rules of this site, I encourage every member to try and stay "on topic" as much they can. That said 'thread drift" can and does happen and I will not warn(or any other way discipline) a member here unless it's something done in a deliberately blatant fashion, and after I tried without success to work with that member on the issue. Steering "off topic" happens at these message boards, and those site admins who try to maintain a strictly "on topic at all costs" approach, usually through their site mods, are only going to alienate their members, in the long run.

As Dan, the other site admin here, once said at another message board: "If there's something on your mind, then speak."

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While Freddy's Dead (only ones I liked was 1 and 3 and I almost liked 5) I didn't get into myself


I can understand why people dont get into FD, I enjoy watching FD, its one of those films thats just plain fun IMO and I like Freddy Krueger no matter what he does.

Also I put the first and Third very high on my ranking list. B)

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it's stupid to insult a person for liking something you don't


Also I was been calm and saying I respect their opinion, but they were still rude to me, so I acted like I lost and left the board, since I didnt want to go any deeper with them two and that you cant knock sense into people like that.

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as a matter of fact I copped similar abuse for the fact I didn't like The Matrix and for the fact I liked the 1986 Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 more then the original (I loved both films though)


If its on IMDB, thats normal, when I was been attacked by the two I mentioned, it was when I was less-experienced on the internet, now I know more.

Im not a fan of The Matrix myself (I dont hate it, Im just not a fan), I havent seen the TCM films yet.

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it's quite ridiculous that someone would place such importance of a film that they would find it grounds to make a personal attack on someone if they happen to have their own views.


True, it is ridiculous, the two I mentioned also put my on their MSN list and talked to me, one day they invited a friend who loved Zelda, once I said "Red vs Blue Rules", the guy went berserk at me for liking RvsB and Halo, Its shocking that they were older then me.
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Mar 30 2008, 02:10 AM
True, it is ridiculous, the two I mentioned also put my on their MSN list and talked to me, one day they invited a friend who loved Zelda, once I said "Red vs Blue Rules", the guy went berserk at me for liking RvsB and Halo, Its shocking that they were older then me.

Sadly older doesn't always mean more mature and I think there is something to be said for forming your own opinions on things without blindly following what's most popular just to fit in....As for liking Red vs Blue I really haven't watched it myself but I know that it has a rather large fanbase and to insult one person from liking it is effective insulting thousands....and even more so with Halo...it's really very childish of them. We all have what we like an dislike.

Oh and off topic nice sig....Nosferatu was a great movie.
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Sadly older doesn't always mean more mature


To bad older doesnt mean mature, it would be alot better.

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As for liking Red vs Blue I really haven't watched it myself but I know that it has a rather large fanbase and to insult one person from liking it is effective insulting thousands.... and even more so with Halo


True, RvsB plus Halo do have a large fanbase, Im happy I am a part of it. :)

Also I recommend watching Red vs Blue, there is something I dislike about it, but I surely thought it was funny and entertaining to watch, also if you havent played Halo, I recommend playing it. ;)

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nice sig.... Nosferatu was a great movie.


Thanks, I agree Nosferatu is a great movie, its also in my top ten favorite films list. :)
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If its on IMDB, thats normal, when I was been attacked by the two I mentioned, it was when I was less-experienced on the internet, now I know more
Your actions Matthew, IMO, were correct. You did the right thing here.

Topic: is your copy of Mothra Vs Godzilla(1964) the "Madman" DVD, Matthew? heyo
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Topic: is your copy of Mothra Vs Godzilla(1964) the "Madman" DVD, Matthew? heyo


Yes, it is.

Off Topic:

Packmule,

If your testicle's are crushed completely, how much would it hurt?. heyo (I know its a strange question, but Im wondering what your answer to this would be)
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Mar 30 2008, 07:11 PM


Off Topic:

Packmule,

If your testicle's are crushed completely, how much would it hurt? (I know its a strange question, but Im wondering what your answer to this would be)

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To answer your question: I would think having my testicles crushed would be extremely painful. Because I've never, fortunately, experienced anything like this, I cannot base on my reply on experience, and only on my imagination and applied common sense about the male anatomical structure.

Now, I have a question of my own, in this 'thread drift" bonanza of words going on right now: what on Earth would prompt you to ask a question of me regarding my genitalia? heyo and confused
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what on Earth would prompt you to ask a question of me regarding my genitalia?  heyo  and confused


The reason is I wanted to see if someone who is older and more intelligent then me would give me a good answer.

Also because the two I mentioned before kept saying they proffered to have their Balls crushed rather then watch Freddy's Dead again.
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You'd pass out from the pain actually, it would cause such nerve damage you'd go into shock.
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Mar 30 2008, 07:23 PM
The reason is I wanted to see if someone who is older and more intelligent then me would give me a good answer


I see. For a minute I thought maybe you were inebriated from one too many beers.


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Also because the two I mentioned before kept saying they preferred to have their Balls crushed rather then watch Freddy's Dead again
very funny

The two who made this remark were being smart asses, more than anything. I'm quite sure both of these guys would prefer to watch this movie, as opposed to having their genitals pulverized.

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You'd pass out from the pain actually, it would cause such nerve damage you'd go into shock
Probably true.
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Finally watched this one for the first time a couple of days ago. Great Godzilla movie, even with the crazy little Mothra twins. I really like the Mothra Song, though.
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Jul 27 2008, 09:50 PM
Finally watched this one for the first time a couple of days ago
On DVD? heyo

Mothra Vs Godzilla(1964) remains a favorite G film of mine. I have watched it more often than any Godzilla movie, with the possible exception of Godzilla King Of The Monsters(1956).

This film has everything that I want in a Godzilla movie: good special effects, a marvelous score, Godzilla as the antagonist(how I prefer to see this monster), a truly vile villain(in Torahata, played by Kenji Sahara), and a great monster battle.

Obviously Mothra Vs Godzilla has it's shortcomings, like all G movies and its effects are, compared to today's CGI and green screen technology, dated.

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Finally watched this one for the first time a couple of days ago
On DVD? heyo


Admittedly, no. But I do plan on buying it, believe it or not.

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I found this at CHFB: a Yellow Tail Chardonnay(wine) commercial utilizing footage from Mothra Vs Godzilla(1964), a film rapidly moving up gojiramatthew's favorite G films list (or not tongue-1 ):
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Ha ha, wobbly nose, wobbly nose...

One of my favorite parts of the film. It's so silly of them to keep it in.
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Ha ha, wobbly nose, wobbly nose...

One of my favorite parts of the film. It's so silly of them to keep it in
The word "silly" seems a little harsh, don't you think, Kex?

After all, Godzilla is a monster, a living creature made up of flesh and blood. Is it "silly" to think that body parts on an living creature might move in a random or indiscriminate manner from time to time? heyo

You are aware of the circumstances that led to the quivering lip on the "Mosugoji" suit, right?
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Didn't it Get messed up when he crashed into a building or something?
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Didn't it Get messed up when he crashed into a building or something?

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# The famous scene where Godzilla destroys the castle in Nagoya actually had to be filmed several times, and the castle had to be built twice. To make the castle fall correctly, two men are sitting behind pushing it with long sticks. The first time scene was shot, the two men pushed too soon, and the castle collapsed before Godzilla even touches it. The miniature castle then had to be rebuilt to redo the scene. The 2nd time, the opposite problem happens, and the two men miss their cue. You can see when Godzilla slams into the castle, it doesn't move. A second take had to be done with Godzilla clawing away at it as the two men push it over from behind. The moment where Godzillas foot slides on the ledge (causing him to fall into the castle) has been thought by many to be an accident. According to Haruo Nakajima (the actor inside Godzilla) the fall was actually scripted that way and done on purpose.

# When the sequence of Godzilla being fire bombed was being shot, during one of the takes, the flaming liquid splashed up onto Godzilla's head. The fuel quickly burned away and the flames went out. Inside the suit, performer Haruo Nakajima was unaware of the accident since the head of the suit is well above Nakajima's own head. Godzilla's head aflame became an unplanned bonus to the effects shot and it was included in the final cut.


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The upper lip on the Godzilla suit in this film has a slight wobble. This was originally an accident; in the filming of a scene where Godzilla smashes into the Nagoya Castle, the actor in the suit (Haruo Nakajima) fell, and the suit's head slammed into the castle, loosening the teeth. Special effects director Eiji Tsuburaya liked this so much that he wanted to keep the suit like that for a while
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Interesting. I was unaware of some of that info.
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proprobly the nicest made goji movie, it was put toghether so well. i really really liked the score, it calms my head after a long painful aching headache!
i used to hate the suit but i'm turning around, it's one of the best, and i used to actually hate the ending, but it's actually amazing! the only flaw is him getting up from the ground, there's been speculation and talking, but most will agrre that this scene was weird! and it's a total mysery why it happened, at least to me it is. one of the best.
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the only flaw is him getting up from the ground, there's been speculation and talking, but most will agree that this scene was weird! and it's a total mystery why it happened, at least to me it is. one of the best
Can you be a little more specific about which scene you're referring to? I'm just trying to understand what you posted. Mr. Smiles
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the only flaw is him getting up from the ground, there's been speculation and talking, but most will agree that this scene was weird! and it's a total mystery why it happened, at least to me it is. one of the best
Can you be a little more specific about which scene you're referring to? I'm just trying to understand what you posted. Mr. Smiles
Again I'm very sorry. I'm reffering to the momment when Godzilla rises from the ground.....
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Again I'm very sorry. I'm refering to the moment when Godzilla rises from the ground.....
There's no need to apologize. I just wasn't sure what you were saying. Mr. Smiles

As to Godzilla's erupting up out of the ground, you described this sequence as weird. What was weird about it to you?
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Again I'm very sorry. I'm refering to the moment when Godzilla rises from the ground.....
There's no need to apologize. I just wasn't sure what you were saying. Mr. Smiles

As to Godzilla's erupting up out of the ground, you described this sequence as weird. What was weird about it to you?
Well I see what I'm getting at, most fans at seeing this would think it's weird at first sight, last movie he was seen falling in the sea, the next coming out of the ground. I meen, he could have been washed up and buried, but why bother having him buried when having him come out of the sea so much more easy.
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^Originality and element of surprise. Not to mention cool.
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^Originality and element of surprise. Not to mention cool.
But still, they could have had them at a dock, and suddenly he rise's fom the sea.
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