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Ebirah Horror Of The Deep(1966); Discuss the film here.
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In 1966 Toho released Ebirah Horror Of The Deep, aka Godzilla Vs The Sea Monster. IMO an underrated film. You have a little bit of everything here: a mysterious island, the requisite "bad-guys" in The Red Bamboo, Ebirah, a gigantic arthropod with a very unpleasant disposition, a giant condor, Mothra(adult form-near the end of the film), and of course the monster king himself, Godzilla. My only real knock on this film was the condition of the G suit, which was really starting to show some sag...Post your thoughts and reviews of this film here. :)
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Not a spectacular film, but colorful and fun in its own way. And Daiyo ain't bad either *wink wink*
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I loved this movie, possibly my favorite out of the Godzilla's career. It had the great island theme which I enjoy and a really cool monster.
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Not a spectacular film, but colorful and fun in its own way. And Daiyo ain't bad either *wink wink*

Indeed, a welcome entry in the series for me. I actually was kind of glad to see Ebirah return in GFW(2004). He fought Godzilla hard in this film. I think he deserved another movie appearance. ;)
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I absolutly love this film!

The main characters were interesting enough, the human plot is one of the best ever in a Showa film, Ebirah is really cool and looked great.

I'd give this film a 4/5 Stars.
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I absolutly love this film!

The main characters were interesting enough, the human plot is one of the best ever in a Showa film, Ebirah is really cool and looked great.

I'd give this film a 4/5 Stars.
Thumbs up:

  • 1. The Red Bamboo-cool villains and easy to hate
  • 2. The skirmish between Godzilla and Mothra-a brief but necessary reminder of their rivalry
  • 3. Ebirah-a great rendering of a giant, and generally ill-dispositioned crustacean

thumbs down:

  • 1. The giant condor-poorly rendered monster avian in the Giant Claw-esque mold
  • 2. The Godzilla suit-beginning to show some serious sag and overall wear and tear in this film
  • 3. Godzilla and Ebirah's "volleyball" match with the boulder-poorly rendered
Overall: A solid entry in the Showa series for Packmule Mr Green
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Ebirah is a nice creation and should appear more, Godzilla's suit looks like it being through hell, but its still fine.

The Red Bamboo deserved what happened to them.

The Giant Condor was a bit lame and got killed fast, the jets lasted longer.

The fights between Godzilla and Ebirah were well done and nice to watch.
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Wow, how did I ever miss posting in this thread? shocked smiley I think at one time, my hopes were far too high, the first time I saw this film, but over the years, this film has really made for an enjoyable afternoon of viewing entertainment. Ebirah is a great foe for Godzilla and their scenes together are really fun.
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I didn't like the idea of Godzilla having feelings or affection or whatever you might call it for that woman. It reminded me too much of another big monster...Im going to watch this film again soon though, since it is next on my marathon. I'll post more thoughts after a fresh viewing.
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I didn't like the idea of Godzilla having feelings or affection or whatever you might call it for that woman
And neither did I, that is, when I had a crush on Kumi Mizuno. I guess I'm the jealous type. tongue-1 In all seriousness I have often wondered what the hell was going there between Godzilla and the woman-his actions clearly protected her from the Red Bamboo, though I'm still inclined to believe it was coincidental. I should watch this movie again and look a little closer at that sequence. noddy
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I'll post more thoughts after a fresh viewing
I look forward to reading them. thumbs up
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Just got done watching this film again. It was nice to see after a long absence.

First off, the human part of the film, while not being the best story, is far from the worst. It was nice to see all the returning faces and everyone turned in a pretty good performance in my opinion.

The Godzilla scenes were done pretty well as I remember them. The two Ebirah fights were a very enjoyable watch with the exception of the rock volleyball sequence, which is used in too many Showa films. After Godzilla throttled Ebirah's ass though I wished he would have finished him off.

One of my gripes was the segment of Godzilla stomping through the power plant. While the miniature plant was done well, I didnt like that he had to step on that flat structure and then hit it with his foot a couple times to make it break. Everything else he touched broke on impact and it seemed out of place for that one structure to require so much to destroy it, considering he stood on top of it with all his weight and he still had to keep hitting it.

The condor scene was humorous but didn't make alot of sense. I guess they just wanted to throw a little more monster on monster action in there. No arguments here.

About the scene where he "protects" Daiyo...It wasnt really as bad as I had remembered it, although I wish if anything he would have just ignored her and continued on his way. All in all though, it doesnt take a whole lot away from the film.

In conclusion, I would say I enjoyed the movie, not the best G film but far from the worst. Sorry for the long post. Next up is Son Of Godzilla. If desired by members of this forum, I will post fresh thoughts on that film as well.
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First off, the human part of the film, while not being the best story, is far from the worst. It was nice to see all the returning faces and everyone turned in a pretty good performance in my opinion
I have seen reviews of this film and a recurring sentiment among the reviewers is that "The Red Bamboo" were a reference to Communist China in this film. Your thoughts on this?

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One of my gripes was the segment of Godzilla stomping through the power plant. While the miniature plant was done well, I didnt like that he had to step on that flat structure and then hit it with his foot a couple times to make it break. Everything else he touched broke on impact and it seemed out of place for that one structure to require so much to destroy it, considering he stood on top of it with all his weight and he still had to keep hitting it
One of the challenges for Toho's special effects crews on each Godzilla film included not only the construction of miniatures but making them in a way tailored for specific scenes, whether it be for a kaiju attack or for something else, like water or a wind simulation. Success in this regard was usually achieved by Eiji Tsuburaya's effects crews, but not without the occasional failures. The most famous of these might be what transpired during the filming of 1962's King Kong Vs Godzilla: "Solomon" Hirose, the suit actor for "King Kong", was supposed to smash the corner of a building as he(playing "King Kong") entered Tokyo. Hirose, a burly and bull strong man, had great difficulty in destroying the plaster based construction of the building miniature. Hirose ultimately managed to pound off a chunk of the miniature.

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The condor scene was humorous but didn't make alot of sense. I guess they just wanted to throw a little more monster on monster action in there
Agreed.

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In conclusion, I would say I enjoyed the movie, not the best G film but far from the worst
That's about how I also would sum up my thoughts on this film.
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Sorry for the long post. Next up is Son Of Godzilla. If desired by members of this forum, I will post fresh thoughts on that film as well.
Please post them. Thanks. :)

Note: the scene I was referring to involving Solomon Hirose in the Kong suit takes place at 1:24 of this American trailer for "King Kong Vs Godzilla": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-imwz5gP5U
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is there king kong vs godzilla
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is there king kong vs godzilla

Not sure what you're asking here, batrus. eh?

Try asking again-be as specific as you can. Thanks pal. :)
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Godzilla Vs The Sea Monster - Revisited

Getting rained out from work today I had a chance to sit down this afternoon and watch Godzilla Vs The Sea Monster(1966). Now that I watch almost all my DVDs using my Blu-Ray DVD player I was interested to see how many of these Sony DVD releases of the Showa Godzilla films would look. I wasn't disappointed as this film, like others, looks noticeably better in the Blu-Ray player, the array of colors, including lots of yellows and reds, really standing out.
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1. the overall design of Ebirah, an enormous marine arthropod that menaces the islanders and, at the end, even the Red Bamboo. I'll be the first to admit this giant crustacean isn't my favorite kaiju. That said I thought it looked fairly realistic, including its antennae, claws and mandibles.
2. Kumi Mizuno: what a beautiful woman and we get to see her in a skimpier outfit for the duration of the film. tongue-1
3. the generous use of high speed filming
4. parts of the cinematography of this film looked very good, especially certain shots of the islands
5. Godzilla Vs Ebirah I and II: I liked both battles overall, despite some aspects of the fights I didn't like(see "Thumbs down" below). Ebirah, despite having no beam weapon or other special power gave Godzilla a fairly good physical battle
6. the direction of Jun Fukuda. It's no secret Fukuda had disdain for the Godzilla films he was tasked by Toho with directing. He remained the good "company man" and produced a fairly entertaining film nonetheless. This was the first G film directed by Jun Fukuda, by the way.
7. Haruo Nakajima turned in another solid performance in the G suit, utilizing his famous "attack" and "stalking" postures to great effect
8. the brief skirmish between Mothra and Godzilla, a reminder that these two monsters will not be exchanging Christmas cards anytime soon

Thumbs down:
1. certain matte shots and other effects shots were subpar, including the visibility of the wires, regarding both Mothra and Ebirah
2. the Godzilla suit is clearly showing wear and tear in this film, evidenced by the sag in the suit under the arms.
3. the huge avian kaiju who attacked Godzilla. This Rodan wannabe seemed a little out of place in this movie and was, not surprisingly, dispatched easily by Godzilla's oral beam
4. many of the water tank shots looked...well, too much like water tanks.

Overall: a solid entry in the Showa Godzilla series, despite its fair share of flaws.
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While not a very liked entry by many I enjoyed it as it had the one core ingredient that a Godzilla film needs....to be fun to watch and this film delivered and even the human story was entertaining enough to keep you entertained for Godzilla absence for the first half. One issue I have it how one sided it was as Ebirah never stood a chance....despite fighting with some gusto Godzilla dominated the whole time.
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It is a fun movie to watch. The score it's self is upbeat and completely different. Really gives it that South Seas feel
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You are correct this film did have a different feel to it then other Godzilla films.....this however may be partially due to the fact it was originally supposed to be a King Kong film but due to Toho having trouble getting the rights to King Kong again they stuck Godzilla in Kong's place
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And this suit was not one of my favorites. The Mouth drives me insane
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It is a fun movie to watch. The score it's self is upbeat and completely different. Really gives it that South Seas feel

Watching the lovely Kumi Mizuno in her island attire always cheers me up a bit when I watch this movie on DVD. shiftyeyes
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definitely I think this film warrents more praise then it gets as I've heard alot of insults thrown it's way. All round it's a pretty fun entry and you are right Rodan70...the Godzilla suit isn't great as it kinda looks like his face was attacked by bee's
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definitely I think this film warrents more praise then it gets as I've heard alot of insults thrown it's way. All round it's a pretty fun entry and you are right Rodan70...the Godzilla suit isn't great as it kinda looks like his face was attacked by bee's

Godzilla vs The Sea Monster(1966) will be showing here in Atlanta, GA at Midtown's Plaza Theater this Saturday, March 29th. The link: http://www.plazaatlanta.com/specialevents.html
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I which they would do something like that near where I live...I would love to see a Godzilla film on the big screen...particularly a good like this this particular film.

Different note about this film, was it just me or did it kinda feel like Godzilla himself was less a part of the plot them anything else?....even less then all the people or events or even Mothra and only major reasons he showed up at all was the need something to destroy the villains base and they needed some monster to fight Ebirah or it would be rather anticlimactic. As the film didn't revolve around Godzilla very much at all.

Still at least he makes his presence felt and all it said and done that's all Godzilla really needs to do.
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Different note about this film, was it just me or did it kinda feel like Godzilla himself was less a part of the plot them anything else?

I believe Godzilla didn't appear in Godzilla Vs The Sea Monster(1966) until about the 45(or 50) minute mark of this film, which is about the halfway point of this movie's run time.
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I believe Godzilla didn't appear in Godzilla Vs The Sea Monster(1966) until about the 45(or 50) minute mark of this film, which is about the halfway point of this movie's run time.

that's excluding a could of scenes of him sleeping....though that's not very notable...Godzilla took quite a while to really get started but as I stated earlier that the Human story was less dull then the usual and had more of a story of their own then most kaiju films but when it can to the crunch it delivered the monster action that was promised.
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I never really cared for this movie until I watched it uncut, subtitled, and widescreen on DVD. I really appreciated the direction, production value, plot, and acting much more this way.
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The Japanese version is pretty good. But I remember what the Godzilla suit reminds me of... Kermet the frog!
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But I remember what the Godzilla suit reminds me of... Kermet the frog!

The Godzilla suit in Ebirah Horror Of The Deep was definitely showing wear and tear in this movie, particularly the "sag" in the suit around the mid-section. Water tank shots were, from what I've read, were hard on these suits.
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Also I hear this is where the budget for Godzilla films was starting to drop....but still clear that there was enough for them to try their hardest to make another quality Godzilla adventure.
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Also I hear this is where the budget for Godzilla films was starting to drop....but still clear that there was enough for them to try their hardest to make another quality Godzilla adventure

From everything I've read on the internet and in magazines director Jun Fukuda, despite his apparent disdain for the G films he directed(revealed in later interviews), played the role of "company man" well in directing his Godzilla movies.
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