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| The Return Of Ultraman(1971-72); Discuss the series here. | |
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| King Joe | Jul 23 2006, 11:00 PM Post #16 |
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sorry for the topic change, but actually Gyeron was quite powerful and deflected the eye slugger using a metal reinforcment in his wings. |
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| packmule | Jul 25 2006, 07:56 AM Post #17 |
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This monster was a tough opponent for Ultraseven, one reason why Seven had to go "Michael Myers" on this kaiju. Kind of a shame actually Corey. The scientists in this episode swore up and down that they had determined that the planet was uninhabited, a requirement that had to be satisfied before they could detonate their mega-weapon. The monster's planet was obliterated-I think the kaiju was almost just defending itself, in a way. Too bad Ultraseven couldn't fly the monster out into space and to another planet where it could reside in peace. |
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| Ro-Dan | Jul 25 2006, 10:20 AM Post #18 |
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It seems to me that in many episodes the Ultras are just downright cruel to many of the monsters they face. They never consider alternatives when dealing with them. The just kill them flat out. It may be a cultural thing with the Japanese but to these American eyes it just seems kinda narrow-minded on the part of the Ultramen. |
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| packmule | Jul 25 2006, 06:25 PM Post #19 |
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An attempt was made by TPC to create a more tolerant Ultraman, one who would be more measured in his use of force: Ultraman Cosmos, which ran from 2001-2002. I have the series on Reg 0(DVD-R) in subtitles. The "team" in this series is called EYES, and the young lad who changes into Ultraman Cosmos is named Musashi. Musashi is a sensitive fellow. My first thought Dan as I watched the early episodes was that the lad was something of a puss, however, I was wrong as Musashi stepped to the plate whenever necessary to fight or kick someone's behind. Ultraman Cosmos, like the other various Ultramen, has a myriad of weapons, some quite spectacular to watch in use, but as I mentioned earlier, this Ultraman, along with "Eyes", is more dedicated to trying to study/understand the giant monsters more and fight/destroy them less. There are more episodes in this series, as opposed to the other ones I have seen, where the Ultraman refrains from using lethal force to kill the kaiju. He does destroy plenty of malevolent monsters to be sure, but there is more even-handed action from this Ultraman. A nice series. The theme song is good. That said I still like Ultraman Tiga better. It's all preference Dan. I am all for an Ultraman that can distinguish between a truly evil monster, like Baltan or Keronia, and a benign one like Skydon or Gavadon. An evil kaiju should be destroyed, a neutral one moved somewhere where it cannot harm anyone. I think you would like Ultraman Cosmos Dan. There are also two(2) "Cosmos" movies: Ultraman Cosmos: Blue Planet and Ultraman Cosmos Vs Ultraman Justice. :) |
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| Ro-Dan | Aug 13 2006, 02:35 PM Post #20 |
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Wow. Took me long to respond to this one. Anyway, yeah I do agree that some kaiju/seijin are just plain evil and need to be eradicated (Geronimon, Baltans) while others are just confused and frightened (Dodongo, Seeboz). For the most part, with the exception of Seeboz, Ultraman just destroys the creature without a second thought. However, the monster graveyard episode in which Hayata/Ultraman has a moment of introspection about the monsters he's destroyed was rather touching. |
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| packmule | Aug 13 2006, 06:54 PM Post #21 |
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I never questioned any of Ultraman's tactics vs any of the giant monsters and aliens he squared off against. His refrain from deadly force against monsters like Gavadon, Gango, and Seabozu showed me their was discretion used by Ultraman, when called for of course. Another incident I liked was from the episode Terror On Route 87-as Hydra flies off Ultraman prepares to shoot the the gryphon-like kaiju with his spacium beam, but does not, as the spirit of the dead boy appears momentarily on the monster's back. I believe Ultraman did not employ his weapon out of respect for the spirit of the deceased. thumbs up |
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| Ro-Dan | Aug 14 2006, 12:06 AM Post #22 |
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Excellent example. I guess Ultraman does use restraint when necessary. |
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| packmule | Aug 15 2006, 08:46 PM Post #23 |
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I think so. Ultraman could clearly have worked over Seabozu even more, but did not. When this monster covered his head, anticipating a blow from Ultraman, Ultraman refrained from striking the monster, clearly able to discern the monster's fear of him, and understood that further violence against this wandering and misplaced kaiju was not necessary. thumbs up |
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| Ro-Dan | Aug 15 2006, 09:06 PM Post #24 |
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That reminds me of another incident of restraint. In the episode "The Rambunctious One From Space" when the silly imaginary monster covered his face, Ultraman let down his guard and, as a result, got sucker punched. LOL Great episode. I love that monster. |
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| packmule | Aug 15 2006, 09:21 PM Post #25 |
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My favorite part of that episode was the shyster that made off with the space rock, holed up in that hotel, created the monster Gango...and then laughed as the human-sized kaiju terrorized various hotel guests and staff. That was funny, especially when the guy saw the monster pop up out of the water in the swimming pool, instead of that girl he was looking at laughing smiley |
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| Ro-Dan | Aug 15 2006, 09:23 PM Post #26 |
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Gango. Okay, so that's his name. Cool. Yeah, I love that pool scene too. It made me laugh out loud. Damn, I love that episode. |
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| packmule | Aug 16 2006, 10:22 PM Post #27 |
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Pictured: Jiro Dan, who played Hideki Goh, in his MAT uniform-from The Return Of Ultraman(1971-72) Click this link for a marvelous list and description of the monsters/aliens from this series: Ultraman Jack kaiju |
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| Ro-Dan | Aug 17 2006, 10:09 AM Post #28 |
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Hideki Goh is cool as a cucumber. A man who truly deserves to stand with Shin Hayata and Dan Moroboshi. Awesome link, Lee. We all know how name-challenged I am with Ultrakaiju. This'll be a big help. Ultraman, Ultraseven, Ultraman Jack = THE BEST |
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| packmule | Aug 17 2006, 12:00 PM Post #29 |
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Absolutely. thumbs up |
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| Ro-Dan | Aug 17 2006, 04:57 PM Post #30 |
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Looking at that photo of the "Big 3" you posted, Lee, reminds me of how bland and unimaginative the MAT uniform is when compared to that of the Science Patrol or the Ultra Garrison/TDF. |
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