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| The "Alien" films(1979-1997) & Prometheus(2012); Discussion of the "Alien" films and PROMETHEUS(2012) | |
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| packmule | Feb 11 2006, 02:46 PM Post #1 |
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In 1979 20th Century Fox released Alien. There have been many imitations of this film to be sure, but none, IMO, come even close to matching the white-knuckle terror and suspense of this classic science fiction movie. The story: the crew of the deep space salvage tug Nostromo is awakened from their hypersleep to answer what is believed to be a distress beacon from a desolate planet. On the planet's surface they discover a derelict space ship...and something much,much worse: a malevolent life form that breeds inside a human host. ----Discuss your take on this classic sci-fi/horror film here. :) |
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| Ro-Dan | Feb 15 2006, 07:39 PM Post #2 |
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I thought it was rather dull. I'm not really a big fan of the Alien movies with the exception of James Cameron's Aliens. That one was pretty good. |
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| KaijuFanatic | Feb 15 2006, 08:49 PM Post #3 |
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I think this is a pretty good film, not sure if I prefer this or the sequel, more, which in itself would be a shock, but a solid effort, i think. I remember the first time I saw the chest-bursting scene, I was staying at my Dad's and had to sleep in the basement that night.......they'd redone the basement, but it was still a creepy place, late at night! Probably an upside to this film was for any teen girls my age at the time, Sigourney Weaver gave us a female lead in a sci-fi/horror film that could hold her own against the an alien as well as most of the men on the ship. Up to that point, there never seemed to be a lot of female leads in a film that weren't in a role for anything other than her ability to be eye candy or for her ability to scream a lung out. Don't get me wrong, some of my favorite films have women that were more or less a screaming machine and I admire their efforts, it was just nice to see a woman kick some behind and not shrink back and do little to save her own skin. |
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| packmule | Feb 15 2006, 09:01 PM Post #4 |
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I remember buying the version of Alien that included the alternate(deleted) scenes. Not really much extra, aside from Ripley finding Captain Dallas(played by Tom Skerritt) all webbed/gooed up against the bulkhead. I saw Alien in the theatre when it first came out. No doubt the "chest-bursting" scene is not something to watch while eating nachos and cheese -this film is very grim and melancholy, when it's not scary and suspenseful, which I thought set up the sequel(which is more fast paced and action-oriented). As for Sigourney Weaver as an ass-kicking heroine you'll get no argument from me about that as she showed remarkable guts in her battle against this hideous, violent alien species :)
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| Ro-Dan | Feb 15 2006, 09:01 PM Post #5 |
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More importantly was how hot she looked with that t-shirt and those little cotton panties on. B) |
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| packmule | Feb 15 2006, 09:08 PM Post #6 |
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Indeed. I was somewhat startled by that scene, i.e. I didn't expect her to look that good... :) |
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| Ro-Dan | Feb 15 2006, 09:14 PM Post #7 |
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Y'know she actually looked pretty hot in Galaxy Quest. She looks good as a blonde. |
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| packmule | Feb 15 2006, 09:16 PM Post #8 |
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I never saw this movie, though I am familar with what it's about. I agree-she looks good as a blonde. I also thought she looked very good in Dave(1993)
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| Ro-Dan | Feb 15 2006, 09:30 PM Post #9 |
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Hey, I'm an "advanced member" now! Sweet. B) B) |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2006, 07:47 PM Post #10 |
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Ellen Ripley(played effectively by Sigourney Weaver) certainly "kicked some behind", as you say-her method of defeating the alien monster was very clever(by blowing it out into space). There is no doubt that this film is not as fast-paced as it's direct sequel, Aliens, which was released seven years later in 1986. Still, I absolutely approve of this film as the "starter" film for the "Alien" series-it is a grim, dark, humorless, steady, methodical movie that blends suspense, terror, and gore like a fine-looking painting. As I have stated before, the acting and storyline must be good, and the actors, including Sigourney Weaver, Tom Skerritt, Harry Dean Stanton, Ian Holm, John Hurt, and Yaphet Kotto, all deliver. The score for this film also reflects the grim mood of the movie. thumbs up |
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| packmule | Aug 6 2008, 03:59 PM Post #11 |
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Ever wonder if Sigourney Weaver would reprise her role as Ellen Ripley in an "Alien" film? Wonder no more: http://robojapan.blogspot.com/2008/08/sigourney-weaver-is-ready-for-another.html Obviously it's all speculative at this point but I would absolutely be delighted to see her in another "Alien" movie, provided the script is good. Alien(1979) is a movie I will definitely be getting on Blu-Ray DVD. |
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| CrowMagnumMan | Aug 7 2008, 10:52 AM Post #12 |
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I think Alien and Aliens are masterpieces. The Alien 3 assembly cut is almost a masterpiece, but it has some flaws. |
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| packmule | Aug 8 2008, 05:39 PM Post #13 |
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I've grown more fond of Alien 3(1992) with repeated viewings. I certainly like it better than Alien Resurrection(1997). ![]() Note: I've edited this thread's topic title to include the discussion of all of Twentieth Century Fox's "Alien" films. |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Aug 28 2008, 02:31 AM Post #14 |
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My ranking of favorite to least favorite of the Alien series (I'm keeping the AvsP movies out of this, unless someone asks me to put them in): 1: Alien (1979) 2: Aliens (1986) 3: Alien Resurrection (1997) 4: Alien 3 (1992)
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| packmule | Aug 28 2008, 05:06 AM Post #15 |
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How would you rank them with both AVP films included? ...
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Aug 28 2008, 06:25 AM Post #16 |
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1: Alien (1979) 2: Aliens (1986) 3: Prometheus (2012) 4: Alien Resurrection (1997) 5: Alien 3 (1992) 6: Alien Vs Predator (2004) 7: Aliens Vs Predator - Requiem (2007) Side Note: I have updated my list to add in Prometheus (2012) and to let everyone know that my rankings might change randomly in the future.
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| josh TX | Aug 28 2008, 07:19 AM Post #17 |
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Here's my ranking of these films, if anyone cares: 1. Aliens 2. Alien 3. Alien Ressurection 4. Alien 3 5. AVP Requiem 6. AVP Pretty close to your decisions, Matthew, only I enjoy "Aliens" greatly and far more than any other entry in the series, though part 1 was great, it's a distant second for me. |
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| CrowMagnumMan | Aug 28 2008, 01:16 PM Post #18 |
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1. Alien 2. Aliens 3. Alien 3(Assembly Cut) 4. AVP 5. Alien: Resurrection 6. AVP: Requiem |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Sep 21 2008, 06:56 AM Post #19 |
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Am I the only one who dislikes the Predator dreadlocks on the Predalien?. The dreadlocks looks good on the Predalien in the comics and games, but in the movie they just don't work the design of the Predalien IMO. |
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| CrowMagnumMan | Sep 21 2008, 01:51 PM Post #20 |
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Nah, not the only one. I liked the Predalien design from the AVP2 game, but the one from AVP:R was just wrong. It made no sense to have dreads. |
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| packmule | Sep 30 2008, 04:22 PM Post #21 |
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Sigourney Weaver recently said in an interview that she would like to reprise her role as Ellen Ripley one more time, presumably in a fifth "Alien" film. I would like to see another film with these monsters...but I cannot fathom what the storyline would be about.
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| CrowMagnumMan | Sep 30 2008, 07:45 PM Post #22 |
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Being the man with a million ideas , I came up with very rough idea of an Alien 5 story. It didn't involve Ripley, but she could definitely fit in the story.I want one more very good Alien movie and one more very good Predator movie to finish those franchises. The AVP movies have stripped them of most of the dignity they once had. So even though I think the mystique surrounding the creatures is nearly gone, they each deserve one good final film to end things right. |
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| G2Kmaster | Sep 30 2008, 07:52 PM Post #23 |
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Here is my views: Aliens Alien Alien R Alien 3 AVP AVP - R |
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| packmule | Sep 30 2008, 08:09 PM Post #24 |
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![]() Views? All I see that you posted are the movie titles and/or the abbreviations for the titles.
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| G2Kmaster | Sep 30 2008, 09:56 PM Post #25 |
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From best to worst. It is obvious... |
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| CrowMagnumMan | Sep 30 2008, 10:20 PM Post #26 |
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You should check out the assembly cut for Alien 3 G2K, if you've never seen it. Most fans agree that it improves the movie a lot. It's still not on par with the first two, but I think it's much closer to them in quality. A worthy finish to the Alien "trilogy" as I like to call it. Alien 4 was just so godawful I want to put it out of my memory. It was a really unnecessary sequel. |
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| josh TX | Sep 30 2008, 11:59 PM Post #27 |
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I found Alien 3's concept and setting to be a great idea on paper, but then the film itself just didn't deliver. I was displeased with some of the Alien effects, and a few of the castmembers just didn't fit well into the script. Overall I felt the movie really lacked pacing and and the suspense build-up wasn't there. |
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| G2Kmaster | Oct 2 2008, 05:02 PM Post #28 |
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I was acctualy disapointed that H.R. Geiger, the original design maker of the alien, did some designs for the "dog alien" and was never used. Sucks... |
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| packmule | Dec 10 2008, 06:24 PM Post #29 |
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Recent comments made by Sigourney Weaver at MTV's Movie Blog suggest the possibility a fifth "Alien" film may one get made. The actress has said she's open to reprising the role of "Ellen Ripley" if the film's story is good: http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_13552.html Opinions, guys? Should another "Alien" film be made? Assuming the story is interesting, and a capable director(such as James Cameron) is on board, I say go for it! |
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| josh TX | Dec 11 2008, 04:43 AM Post #30 |
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Maybe if Cameron is on board...but I'm more inclined to say no. I think the AVP films have burned people out a bit on the franchise and I don't think a new "Aliens" film would fare too well right now. And although I'm a fan of Weaver, I don't think people are too interested in seeing the aging actress reprise another far-fetched version of Ripley. |
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-this film is very grim and melancholy, when it's not scary and suspenseful, which I thought set up the sequel(which is more fast paced and action-oriented). As for Sigourney Weaver as an ass-kicking heroine you'll get no argument from me about that as she showed remarkable guts in her battle against this hideous, violent alien species :)

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