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Godzilla's Revenge(1969); Discuss the movie here.
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When I first saw this movie it was in the theaters. It was a double with War of the Gargantua's

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Consider yourself fortunate you have experienced a Showa Godzilla film in a movie theater because the vast majority of folks haven't. The only one I saw was Destroy All Monsters(1968), which was on a double bill with The Green Slime(1968)-I saw it with my father at the old Rialto theater in downtown Atlanta(GA). That was in 1969. I was seven years old. Seeing DAM on the big screen, even in a smallish theater with hardly anyone else watching, was still a thrill for me. That experience, and seeing Ultraman(1966-67) on WTCG for the first time, in 1971, got me permanently hooked on Godzilla and giant monsters.

Thread drift: the only other Godzilla films I have seen in a theater: Godzilla 2000(1999) in the summer of 2000 here in Atlanta and Godzilla 85 in 1985 while I was in the Navy stationed at the Charleston(SC) naval base.

I would, given the opportunity, watch all of the Showa Godzilla films in a theater if I could.
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Just watched the CM copy of AMA again. Despite it looking like a decent transfer, I really just can't get over the fact that I really dislike this movie. I really can't even try to like this one. Its at the bottom of the list for Godzilla movies for me. The english dub is even worse, as Minyas voice in this one is horrendous, he sounds like some sort of backwoods redneck.
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as Minyas voice in this one is horrendous, he sounds like some sort of backwoods redneck

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It's kind of ironic that Tomoyuki Tanaka told Banno that he ruined Godzilla with Godzilla vs Hedorah, particularly due to the fact it came out after this crappy entry. The last thing a Godzilla fan would want is a film that takes place in a child's mind that is a metaphor for bullying, crammed stock footage and co-staring a talking Minilla....essentially the film delivers nothing worth seeing. I understand they were aiming at kids at this point but Gamera made the transition alot smoother and still delivered some enjoyable if very campy adventures....things also contrast poorly upon comming out directly after Destroy all Monsters which I personally was quite fond of.

This is a really bad Godzilla film and I personally would rather not consider it cannon, easily the worst entry from the showa films and I consider it second worst of all time. Godzilla Final Wars rubbed my up the wrong way more because I at least understand what they were trying to archive with Godzilla's Revenge were as I don't even think that the creators of Final Wars knew what they wanted to do themselves. Still this was marked for a real low point.
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Apr 6 2008, 09:33 AM
It's kind of ironic that Tomoyuki Tanaka told Banno that he ruined Godzilla with Godzilla vs Hedorah, particularly due to the fact it came out after this crappy entry


Having first read about Tanaka's comments directed at Yoshimitsu Banno I was surprised...and appalled, honestly that Tanaka would have this much disdain for Godzilla Vs Hedorah(1971), obviously not one of the better entries in the series of "Godzilla" films but also not the disaster that Tomuyuki Tanaka's derisive remark would imply either. confused

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The last thing a Godzilla fan would want is a film that takes place in a child's mind that is a metaphor for bullying, crammed stock footage and co-staring a talking Minilla...
While I obviously can't speak for other G film fans I can say this kind of plot is certainly about the last thing I'd want in a Godzilla movie.
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Apr 6 2008, 08:52 AM
Having first read about Tanaka's comments directed at Yoshimitsu Banno I was surprised...and appalled, honestly that Tanaka would have this much disdain for Godzilla Vs Hedorah(1971), obviously not one of the better entries in the series of "Godzilla" films but also not the disaster that Tomuyuki Tanaka's derisive remark would imply either. confused

exactly Godzilla vs Hedorah will never be concidered one of the great but there are certainly ones alot worse....all in all I would rank it somewhere in the middle but coming right after this dreadful entry it comes out looking like Shakespeare in comparison. I kinda tend to think that this film wasn't a real Godzilla film as Godzilla didn't actually do anything and nor did any other monsters as it's all in his head.....and at least Hedorah was actually an adventure from Godzilla and not some kid dreaming.
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This is not just the worst Godzilla movie. This is possibly one of the worst movies in the history of cinema.

Can't say I dislike the design of Gabara as much as some G-fans seem to do, but I dislike Minya a lot, and I dislike overuse of stock footage, and I dislike children, and I dislike "the moral of the story" scenarios, and I dislike the voice of Minya in the English dub, and I dislike....


...Wow.
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absolutely this film was a total disaster and has no redeemable traits...best thing I can say is the suit from Destroy all Monsters was still in good condition at this point...sadly it wouldn't hold up as well in the next 2 films. Still as utterly painful this film is...I still thought Final Wars was worse.
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Apr 6 2008, 08:40 PM
This is not just the worst Godzilla movie. This is possibly one of the worst movies in the history of cinema

I believe there are a handful of films that are quite worse than Godzilla's Revenge(1969), which is obviously saying a lot. Among those I believe are colossal stinkers, and even more horrendous:

A*P*E(1976)

The Mighty Gorga(1969)

Eegah(1962)

Dungeon Of Harrow(1962)

Monster A Go Go(1965)

Robot Monster(1953)
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Apr 6 2008, 08:40 PM
This is not just the worst Godzilla movie. This is possibly one of the worst movies in the history of cinema

I believe there are a handful of films that are quite worse than Godzilla's Revenge(1969), which is obviously saying a lot. Among those I believe are colossal stinkers, and even more horrendous:

A*P*E(1976)

The Mighty Gorga(1969)

Eegah(1962)

Dungeon Of Harrow(1962)

Monster A Go Go(1965)

Robot Monster(1953)

I said ONE OF. I agree, there are films worse than this one (I've been rather interested in seeing Robot Monster for exactly that reason).
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Apr 7 2008, 04:32 AM
I said ONE OF

I KNOW what you said, Kex.
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Don't forget the complete garbage that is Plan 9 from outer space.
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Apr 7 2008, 07:26 AM
Don't forget the complete garbage that is Plan 9 from outer space.

Plan 9 was made to fit unused footage of poor old Bela Lugosi after he died....but I guess he would have wanted then because acting was his pride and movie world chewed him up and spat him out after him making quite a contribution. Still all and all I hated Plan 9 less then Godzilla's Revenge
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It just had alot of stock footage with different Godzilla suits. That's what Throws me off. But I still like the American Theme they put at the beginning of the movie. But I still can't find it anywhere.
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Apr 8 2008, 02:51 PM
It just had alot of stock footage with different Godzilla suits. That's what Throws me off. But I still like the American Theme they put at the beginning of the movie. But I still can't find it anywhere.

as bad as the stock footage was at least it didn't do a Gamera vs. Viras and use stock footage from the original which was still in black and white and try and pass it off as new scenes....that was one of the laziest things I'd ever seen.
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Take a trip down memory lane with TBS's "Super Scary Saturday", hosted by Al "Grandpa" Lewis(of The Munsters), who introduces Godzilla's Revenge(1969): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=63...earch&plindex=0
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I think the only revenge in this film is Godzilla's revenge on any poor saps who are willing to watch it
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Apr 9 2008, 08:04 PM
I think the only revenge in this film is Godzilla's revenge on any poor saps who are willing to watch it

I wonder if Toho was experiencing some severe financial woes at the time Godzilla's Revenge was made, hence the horrendous use of stock footage in this film. confused
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I have no idea, but I'm glad we really didn't have to deal with that again, except for Godzilla vs Gigan.
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Apr 10 2008, 02:19 PM
I have no idea, but I'm glad we really didn't have to deal with that again, except for Godzilla vs Gigan.

and Godzilla vs Megalon and if on not mistaken and re reused shots were used in Terror of Mechagodzilla though nothing so intrusive
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Slain, you going to get the Classic Media R1 DVD of All Monsters Attack? heyo
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Slain, you going to get the Classic Media R1 DVD of All Monsters Attack? heyo

that's in the boxest yeah?......if so there is a good chance that I would some point down the line....at the moment though I don't have a great deal of money.
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All Monsters Attack(1969) - Revisited

I finally sat down this afternoon and watched, for the first time, All Monsters Attack(1969) in its original Japanese language with English subtitles. Until today I had only watched this film in English dubbed language off the SIMITAR DVD I have(I actually have two of the SIMITAR discs of this movie).

Obviously this movie is not generally well liked by the majority of kaiju and Godzilla movies fans...but there are those who do like it and those, like myself, who can derive some modicum of entertainment from this movie, when it's watched in moderation.

Admittedly, my take on this movie, like other Godzilla films, has become more favorable over the years. It will never be a favorite, to be sure, but there are many positives I take from watching All Monsters Attack, aka "Godzilla's Revenge"(its international title).

Some personal observations having watched the original Japanese version for the first time-

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1. Ichiro. I liked this lad. I can, admittedly identify with him because, as a young boy his age, I also was a "latchkey" kid...at least until I was twelve years old and adopted into a real family. Everything before that, for me, and Ichiro, was mostly an empty house and neighborhood bullies. I admit the analogies and symbolism used to show Ichiro's progression from bullied and bewildered pushover to self-confident, even slightly macho young man are a bit cheesy but they get the point across.

2. Eisei Amamoto as Mr. Shinpei, Ichiro's neighbor: for me it was good to see Amamoto in a good guy role here as Ichiro's kindly, affable neighbor and toy consultant, a stark contrast to his portrayal, two years earlier, as the nefarious and evil Dr. Who in King Kong Escapes.

3. Gabara: I liked the monster's overall appearance though I admit to having considerable disdain for the monster's roar, which sounds to me like a cat trying to cough up a hair ball. Good thing Gabara doesn't show up until a year after Destroy All Monsters because if this bully had been left on his own at Monsterland, I'm thinking the other monsters would have given Gabara a "blanket party", kaiju style.

4. Minilla in the Japanese version: the presence of the braying sounds notwithstanding, I liked the audio effects of Minilla's voice better in the Japanese version

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1. the first battle between Minilla and Gabara: mostly devoid of high speed filming, this skirmish looks fairly silly.

2. the two bad guys in this film, a pair of robbers on the lam from the law, with $50,000,000 yen in their possession. These two fellows, through their bumbling and inept actions, only reaffirm that criminals are often not the brightest of light bulbs.

3. the horrendous use of stock footage. I'll leave it at that.


I also liked the scene near the end of the movie, when Ichiro causes the billboard painter to fall and spill white paint all over his head. lol

The DVD includes a decent audio commentary by Richard Pusateri. Interestingly enough, the Classic Media DVD cover advertises the original Japanese trailer as a DVD extra...but I couldn't find the trailer on either the menu option for the English dubbed or Japanese language version.
Did I miss something here? heyo

The original Japanese trailer for All Monsters Attack(1969): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...tHoSSrgLcwuW_Ag
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I must admit, after watching CM's All Monsters Attack/Godzilla's Revenge in its original japanese language, I like this G movie a little bit more. This movie could've been even better if they hadn't used so much stock footage from previous Godzilla movies. All in all though, it's a pretty decent Godzilla movie.

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The Battles arn't bad, but the use of stock footage is overkill.
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The Battles arn't bad, but the use of stock footage is overkill.

I wonder if they (Toho) intended to use that stock footage from the beginning or if All Monsters Attack was on a low budget where they couldn't film alot of new monster footage. Oh, and hearing the original voice of Manilla instead of that stupid american voice was very welcome. (even though the japanese voice was a female's voice... ah well, even Goku was voiced by a female in DBZ)

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May 18 2008, 09:32 PM
the use of stock footage is overkill.

This film should have been named Godzilla vs Stock Footage
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I wonder if they (Toho) intended to use that stock footage from the beginning or if All Monsters Attack was on a low budget where they couldn't film alot of new monster footage

From the IMDB:

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Eiji Tsuburaya was bedridden during production, so Ishirô Honda took over the effects direction, which resulted in limited special effects work and stock footage. Tsuburaya did not work on the film at all, aside from the stock footage, but is credited out of respect


Eiji Tsuburaya passed away in 1970. I've read that he was not in the best of shape, physically, in the months leading up to his death.
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Well, that makes sence. Could you imagine what the movie would have been like with NEW footage?
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Interestingly enough, the Classic Media DVD cover advertises the original Japanese trailer as a DVD extra...but I couldn't find the trailer on either the menu option for the English dubbed or Japanese language version.
Did I miss something here? heyo


It's in the special features of the Japanese version.

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