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| packmule | Mar 20 2006, 08:13 PM Post #1 |
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On July 24, 1971 the Toho Motion Picture Company released Godzilla Vs Hedorah. This movie was later released in April of 1972, by AIP(American International Pictures), as Godzilla Vs The Smog Monster. The story: an anamorphic alien arrives on Earth via a meteorite and proceeds to consume the various seaborne and airborne pollution along Japan's coast. As it does it increases in size, and gains the ability to shapeshift, from a flying form to that of an upright, walking form. In either form "Hedorah", as it is quickly named, is a true menace, it's trail of sludge and toxic emissions deadly to humans and simultaneously making life miserable for Godzilla. A local scientist comes up with the idea of "drying out" Hedorah, but in order to do this he must first convince the authorities to build two enormous electrodes...------This movie is an uneven ride for me, filled with highs and lows. There can be no question that this film is a different kind of entry in the Showa series of G films. More on my take of this film later. Post your thoughts and critiques of this movie here, and anything related to it, including the fine Region 1 Columbia/Tri-Star DVD. All replies welcome. :)
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| KaijuFanatic | Mar 20 2006, 08:42 PM Post #2 |
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I think Hedorah is one of the more unique foes of Godzilla and as a result, I really enjoy this film. As mentioned, it is a bit uneven at times and has some moments where the film becomes a bit too 'talky' or bogs down a bit, but overall, I really enjoy it. The disc released by Columbia/Tri-Star is a wonderful looking disc as is the case with all they've released. |
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| Ghost the Bat | Mar 20 2006, 10:19 PM Post #3 |
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One of the greatest Godzilla films of all time IMO. I loved the plot, the dark mood of the film, the hippies, the crazy soundtrack. Its a good fun movie to enjoy on a rainy/foggy day, which I have done numerous times in the past. |
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| packmule | Mar 22 2006, 09:23 PM Post #4 |
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I enjoy the film, though I do not rank it as high as you do. For Packmule-Thumbs up: 1. Hedorah-a surprisingly tough kaiju than can shapeshift and spew toxic emissions, making life miserable for Godzilla, and it's emissions lethal to the local populace 2. Something "fishy"-the drunkard in the bar whose excessive drinking has caused him to hallucinate that his fellow bar patrons are all "fish" headed-having reached comparable states of inebriation myself I can relate to the hallucinations, though mine weren't fish. 3. The score-IMO great, though I admit a certain bias to late 60's and early 70's rock-------thumbs down: 1. The bonfire scene-trying to recreate Woodstock with Hedorah and Godzilla nearby...must have been some funny tobacco being passed around in this throng 2. The "ooze" factor-a bit excessive IMO-the scene where the bar gets splattered(and the poor cat) comes to mind ---------Overall: a solid, if somewhat different Godzilla film the series, which I always enjoy when I watch. Mr Green
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Jul 28 2007, 09:23 PM Post #5 |
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Thus film is gross it made me get a stomach ache long ago, but now its enjoyable and fun to watch. Hedorah is perhaps one of Godzilla strongest foes and deserves to be in more films. Godzilla looks alright in the film, I do feel sorry for him when he gets injured in this one. The Special effects are nice, I like how they made Godzilla fly, I wish people would stop saying its stupid. |
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| KaijuFanatic | Jul 29 2007, 03:33 AM Post #6 |
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I still find this to be a very enjoyable film to watch, but one of the great aspects for me is the trailer....I just love watching Hedorah 'inhaling' the air pollution from the smoke stacks.....very solid looking. Plus, I always loved Hedorah's eyes. |
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| packmule | Jul 29 2007, 06:44 PM Post #7 |
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Something I think many Godzilla fans fail to realize, sometimes. We're talking about a monster that can emit lethally toxic poison gas and can shapeshift at will, including one form in which it can fly. It also is capable of firing a destructive beam from its eye and seemed, to me anyway, to be less affected by Godzilla's oral ray, punches and other assorted physical blows. Not too shabby.
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Jul 31 2007, 06:48 AM Post #8 |
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Yep Hedorah is one of the strangest and strongest ones. Also what were your thoughts on Godzilla flying?, I was fine with it, since it proves Godzilla's atomic ray is very powerful and also that I enjoy that sort of stuff. |
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| packmule | Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM Post #9 |
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I could have done without it-that said it doesn't diminish my enjoyment in watching this film. If nothing else give Yoshimitsu Banno credit for bestowing, for better or worse, a power used by Godzilla that was never seen again in any other Godzilla movie.
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Jul 31 2007, 06:13 PM Post #10 |
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Well showing Godzilla using his atomic ray to fly, does prove his ray is stronger then we thought. |
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| packmule | Jul 31 2007, 10:42 PM Post #11 |
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Didn't Hedorah lose one of it's eyes during this film? It scarred over over something and it was one-eyed after that.
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Aug 1 2007, 01:26 AM Post #12 |
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Yeah, Hedorah lost it when Godzilla distracted him by hitting a rock with his tail making Hedorah look away, then Godzilla goes up close and punches him right in the eye, he pulls out his hand(It looks really injured) and Hedorah's eye bleeds and his eye lid covers it. |
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| packmule | Aug 1 2007, 05:52 AM Post #13 |
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This scene seemed kind of "meatball" as I like to call it-a little more of a gory effect. I think the next time we see this in the following film, Godzilla vs Gigan(1972), when Angilas gets part of his face hacked by Gigan's chest buzzsaw.
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| Deleted User | Aug 30 2007, 08:01 AM Post #14 |
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i think hedorah is also strong like ghidorah |
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| packmule | Aug 30 2007, 05:30 PM Post #15 |
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Perhaps in different ways but, yes, Hedorah is a very tough kaiju, and was a formidable opponent for Godzilla. The pollution monster had an eye beam weapon, could shapeshift and also could fly, not to mention its toxic emissions. |
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| josh TX | Sep 21 2007, 05:36 PM Post #16 |
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I just watched this film again last night. It's never been one of my favorites, but I give it credit for being unique and featuring an original monster that may be the most interesting of the series. This film took a slight departure from the previous trend of "kid friendly" Godzilla films. The scenes where Hedorah reduces people to skeletons I probably wouldnt show to a small child. That said, I think Banno was really trying to push the case for how toxic pollution can really be. I was not big on the acting in this movie. Most of the characters felt very stiff to me, and I often felt myself not really caring what happened to them throughout the course of the film, with the exception maybe of the small boy. There was alot of screen time for Godzilla and Hedorah in this film, but I don't think the movie was paced very well and some of the scene cuts were not handled well at all, such as the scene where Hedorah drops Godzilla in a pit and begins dumping sludge on him, but the next time the scene cuts Godzilla has somehow miraculously escaped and now he and Hedorah are rolling down a hill. I felt that moment especially deserved a scene showing us how he escaped the ordeal. To it's credit, the FX team did a good job of showing Godzilla's "burnt" features, including the skeletal appearance his right hand took on after he punched Hedorah in the eye and his burnt face and closed eye. Overall this film probably falls near the middle to lower half of my list for the Showa films. Nowhere near great, but it has some cool redeeming features. |
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| packmule | Sep 22 2007, 05:27 AM Post #17 |
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This statement essentially sums up my feelings on the 1971 film. That scene certainly raised more than a few eyebrows. Agreed. I am always a little annoyed by that as well. Agreed. Indeed. I liked the funky 70's music featured in this film and there were some attention getting scenes throughout this movie: -the guy in the bar drowning his sorrows, who begins to hallucinate that those around him possess the heads of fish -the splattering of toxic mud through the bar, especially seeing that poor cat get slimed. -seeing Godzilla nearly drown in a pit of horrendous looking sludge. Not to mention the noxious gas that the flying form Hedorah emitted, which he gagged on at the oil refinery. Godzilla was dogged out by Hedorah at times in this movie. -the bonfire scene where everyone is dancing-it would appear Hedorah was not happy he wasn't invited to join this outdoor party.
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| KaijuFanatic | Sep 22 2007, 02:50 PM Post #18 |
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Those were some of the best scenes in this film. Hedorah is still one of my favorite foes of Godzilla, not the favorite, but definitely ranks up there among the best. I love the trailer for this film. |
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| josh TX | Sep 23 2007, 08:19 AM Post #19 |
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I agree with the two of you on most aspects of this film. When I first saw the scene in the bar and the way everyone looked like fish...I was laughing so hard I almost choked. I think he must have been doing a little smoking to go along with that drinking. This scene was almost as funny, but not quite, as the club scene in Yongary where everyone is drinking and pouring liquor all over each other because they know Yongary is on the way to kill them. That scene alone could make me watch that movie again and again. The bonfire scene, while being absolutely ridiculous, was funny as well, and yeah Hedorah wasn't all for peace and love when he flew by and killed about half of those hippies. I guess he didnt enjoy torches being thrown at him too much. |
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| packmule | Sep 23 2007, 10:00 AM Post #20 |
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Check out the AIP trailer for Godzilla Vs The Smog Monster(1971): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDVjutzan8 Here's the Japanese(Toho) trailer for Godzilla Vs Hedorah(1971): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZb0zKu56FA |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Jan 28 2008, 06:52 AM Post #21 |
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One thing that makes me laugh, is Tanaka saying that Yoshimitsu Banno ruined the Godzilla series, I disagree on that greatly, Godzilla's Revenge was much worst and it was directed by Ishiro Honda, amazing how the guy who directed the dark original Godzilla film, directed IMO the worst of the series. |
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| josh TX | Jan 28 2008, 08:41 AM Post #22 |
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I agree Matthew, that I don't believe Banno ruined the series either with the Hedorah film. In my opinion this film explored a new avenue in the Godzilla Universe, and was done moderately well. As far as Honda, I don't really hold the plight of All Monsters Attack (Godzillas Revenge) against him too personally, because from what I understand Toho severely limited the budget for that film, and specifically wanted a film aimed at kids. |
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| packmule | Jan 28 2008, 04:33 PM Post #23 |
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I disagree on that as well and, frankly, think that remark is outrageous. Were I Yoshimitsu Banno I would take offense at a comment like that. Agreed. thumbs up Exactly. I'm thinking Hedorah may not have been too fond of the music being played either. shiftyeyes |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Jan 28 2008, 04:41 PM Post #24 |
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IMO the budget for Godzilla vs Megalon seemed more limited and to me seemed to be aimed for children and IMO its better, I dont hate GR, its better then GINO. |
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| packmule | Jan 28 2008, 04:45 PM Post #25 |
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If I remember correctly the budget for Godzilla Vs Megalon(1973) was among the lowest, if not the lowest, of any Godzilla film ever made. I read somewhere that the filming for this movie wrapped up in less than a month. |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Jan 28 2008, 04:48 PM Post #26 |
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I do feel sorry for the guys who worked on Godzilla vs Megalon, that they were working on such a low budget, but for the lowest budgeted G-film, the Dam attack scene with Megalon was done well. |
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| josh TX | Jan 29 2008, 05:50 PM Post #27 |
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I enjoyed the Dam scene as well, but I really hated the scene where Megalon gets knocked over and part of the mask comes up to where you can see a human head underneath...I really wish they would have re-shot that scene. |
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| packmule | Feb 1 2008, 07:12 PM Post #28 |
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While doing a little research on the total box office receipts for Godzilla Vs Hedorah I found these numbers on the film: it was made on a budget of $252,000. This movie's box office receipts, in Japan: $1,740,000. There was no mention of how it did in the United States, where it was released in 1972. My guess is that it's Japanese and American theater receipts combined were probably in the $2-2.5 million dollar range(give or take). Obviously not a huge profit but still a positive turn around on the film's budget. |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Feb 2 2008, 05:51 AM Post #29 |
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I must say another thing about Godzilla vs Hedorah, it was trying to do an Anti-Pollution message, the Original Godzilla had an Anti-Bomb message to it, plus I think the grim scene's in GvsH was done well. |
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| packmule | Feb 2 2008, 07:23 AM Post #30 |
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The "grin" scenes? What were those? Can you elaborate on this?
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