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| packmule | Dec 27 2008, 12:41 AM Post #106 |
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From what I've read at discussion boards I agree, absolutely. There are many who like Godzilla(1998), the Emmerich-Devlin produced movie. I like it to some extent and when it's released to Blu-Ray DVD, and it will be released in this format, I'll buy this format of the movie. It's a modestly entertaining film for me...but it could have been so much more, as I believe the original 1993 script illustrates. There has been, from what I can tell, a great deal of criticism hurled at Dean Devlin regarding the '98 American Godzilla movie. While I think he deserves it I also believe Sony stumbled badly as well, in deciding to use the storyline that ultimately became the actual 98 G movie. The movie made $398 million on a budget(including advertising) of about $130 million, so a nice profit was made...and a huge fan backlash created over the movie and the design of the American Godzilla, which was nicknamed "GINO" shortly after the movie aired in theaters by Richard Pusateri, the acromym meaning "Godzilla In Name Only". It has become a symbol of the disdain hardcore Godzilla fans, including myself, have for the Patrick Tatopolous designed monster. Dean Devlin tried to change Godzilla and succeeded, but changed the character too much from a monster into an overgrown animal, which suggests to me that Devlin never really had a grasp of what Godzilla really is. |
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| crowmagnumman | Dec 27 2008, 04:18 AM Post #107 |
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Back when I first watched the movie, I was really surprised by the overall tone of it. I was expecting a scary Godzilla movie, but it turned out to be more of a comedy. I like Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno, so I actually enjoyed it as a comedy at the time. I think it's only more recently, now that I'm getting back into Godzilla, that I've grown to dislike the film. I wish they hadn't called it Godzilla. Because honestly, as a fun giant monster movie, it's not that bad. It's funny, entertaining, and the giant iguana is a bit of a tragic and sympathetic creature. It's really unfortunate, because this might be more of a favorite for me if they hadn't called it Godzilla. It's not really on par even with ID4 or Stargate, but it's still good for what it is. Just, not Godzilla. |
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| packmule | Dec 27 2008, 04:26 AM Post #108 |
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Fan backlash and dislike of the American Godzilla movie, among hardcore Godzilla fans, was so severe that Dean Devlin purportedly received death threats in the form of hate mail and online emails. Devlin did not endear himself to fans when he allegedly told fans they could "go to hell", a response to the waves of criticism he was receiving, by posting these words at a message board(I've heard it was CHUD). |
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| crowmagnumman | Dec 27 2008, 04:37 AM Post #109 |
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 Wow.  I hadn't heard that before. I wouldn't at all be surprised. I can imagine how I would feel if I was only seeing it in theaters just now. It might not be as disappointing to me as Indy 4 was, but I'd probably be pretty mad.
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| Godzillaheisei546 | Jan 7 2009, 07:22 PM Post #110 |
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i must say my first godzilla film was the 98, te king kong vs goji, then goji 2000. but at the time it was so good. now it kinda sucks. i meen killed by missles and he barely breathed any fire! what a terrible godzilla movie. i don't consider it one, but it has the name! |
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| G2Kmaster | Jan 9 2009, 06:51 PM Post #111 |
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When my brother said he liked this film, I punched him. |
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| packmule | Jan 9 2009, 07:23 PM Post #112 |
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Did he punch you in retaliation? I would have. 
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| G2Kmaster | Jan 9 2009, 11:10 PM Post #113 |
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That is the wrong awnser. The correct awnser is "how hard did I punch him." And that awnser is, not verry. But enough to get my point accros with a pissed-off look. |
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| packmule | Jan 9 2009, 11:19 PM Post #114 |
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Actually, it wasn't an answer at all: it was a question.  That's a relief. Imagine, a person being punched in the face and losing teeth for simply liking Godzilla(1998). Makes me wonder if you'd punch me...seeing as that I like the film, as a giant monster movie.  |
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| G2Kmaster | Jan 9 2009, 11:23 PM Post #115 |
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I ment question, but I am not thinking right now since some "covent" claims they can legaly tell you what you can and can't do on your property and I am fighting them. And if I punched you, my ass would be grass... |
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| Godzillaheisei546 | Jan 11 2009, 12:34 AM Post #116 |
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really, how hard? |
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| G2Kmaster | Jan 11 2009, 12:51 AM Post #117 |
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enough for him to get my point and watch a dobule feature of gmk and brining godzilla down to size |
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| Godzillaheisei546 | Feb 15 2009, 07:06 PM Post #118 |
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i have new personal feelings about the film. it was a very good monster movie, zilla was cool. but i will never ever consider this film a goji film! never! |
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| packmule | Apr 12 2009, 08:56 AM Post #119 |
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Made In America: Godzilla(1998) - Revisited There has been, in my own lifetime, perhaps a half dozen or so events that managed to get me excited. I'm a deliberate person, one who generally maintains and applies an even and/or slightly pessimistic and guarded perspective to everything and everyone I encounter in life. Movies are no different: I react to them in generally the same fashion. One of these events that managed to get me excited was the impending theatrical release of an American Godzilla movie. My anticipation began back in late 1997 when, watching a VHS rental of the film I Know What You Did Last Summer(1997), I saw an advance teaser trailer for Godzilla(1998): it was the "museum" teaser where a group of students viewing a T-Rex skeleton have their tour interrupted by the gargantuan foot of Godzilla, which crashes down through the museum roof. Seeing this advance trailer for the first time, I was fired up, no doubt about it. The months passed by and in early May, 1998 I managed to buy two tickets to an advance theatrical screening of Godzilla, the first showing of this film in Atlanta(GA), on May 19, 1998. I bought the additional ticket in order to take a friend of mine, who had expressed interest in watching the movie. At the time I was between full time employment and was working for another friend, helping him get his small lawn care business up and running. I took the day off to see Godzilla(1998). On May 19,1998 me and my friend entered the theater and took part in some promotional giveaways that were part of the movie. The theater was crowded but not filled to capacity. I won a t-shirt and a cap. I gave the t-shirt to some nearby kid who appeared ready to cry because he hadn't won the shirt. He accepted the shirt from me without even saying thank you. I kept the cap and other item I won(I still have but don't know what it really is) and settled into my seat to watch the film. After the film ended I was relieved...and fairly disappointed. I gathered from the reaction of others during the movie that it was generally well received, but there was no applause at the end. Over the years that have passed since Godzilla(1998) first aired in theaters here in the U.S. I have read countless internet message board debate about the movie. I gather from what I've read that the movie has a far greater number of detractors than those that like it. Godzilla(1998) generated $398 million dollars in worldwide receipts. Made on a budget of $125 million(with another $25 million spent to promote the film), Godzilla obviously turned a profit. It also was expected to be the summer blockbuster of 1998 but it wasn't. The film suffered a colossal drop off in box office revenue after its first full weekend in theaters, an anomaly that afflicts many films. Any hopes that Tri-Star had for a financial blockbuster in the $500-600 million dollar revenue range were quickly dashed by the film's sudden drop off in gate receipts. As a result of the film's disappointing box office return many retailers lost a lot of money due to the lack of sales of merchandise tied in to the 1998 film. The film itself was generally assailed by movie critics and blasted by die hard Godzilla fans. The producer of the movie, Dean Devlin, was lampooned by long time Godzilla fans, death threats allegedly made against Devlin as well through large internet message boards like "CHUD". Dean Devlin exascerbated Godzilla fan backlash by allegedly responding to criticism of the film with responses like "If people don't like the film they can go to hell". Tri-Star(Sony) had, contractually, a five year "window" by which to opt to produce a sequel to Godzilla(1998). Based on a number of factors, perhaps none more so than negative fan reaction to the film and disastrous $ losses by merchandisers tied to the '98 movie, the studio allowed it's five year sequel rights to lapse. Result: no sequel film. Perhaps the most damning, and lasting legacy of Godzilla(1998) came after a man named Richard Pusateri coined the phrase "GINO", an acronym for "Godzilla In Name Only". This acronym has been, and still is, commonly used to reference both the film and the monster that appeared in the movie. As to the film itself, I will repeat some of my general observations - Thumbs up: 1. the suspense that was created in the film about the monster. Done very well, I think. We don't see the creature, only its footprints and the aftermath of its encounter with a large Japanese fishing vessel. It certainly made me want to see what the monster looked like. 2. the performance of various cast members in this film, particularly Jean Reno as French secret agent "Phillipe Roache" and Matthew Broderick as "Nick Tatopolous". Broderick conveyed the role of the unassuming but clever and highly intelligent scientist very well. Reno was also quite good as the mysterious "Roache", whose gruff demeanor was matched only by his frustration and ongoing struggle to find a good cup of coffee. 3. various effects shots looked solid, especially Godzilla's initial landfall in NYC and the first military engagement with the monster in the city. 4. the comic relief in this film, especially from the gruff and portly mayor vs his milquetoast assistant. Thumbs down: 1. the overall design of Godzilla in this film: it looked IMO too much like an overgrown lizard and not nearly enough like a monster 2. the overall demeanor of Godzilla in this movie: the monster's actions appeared to be motivated more by curiosity, the exception being the final scene after it discovers its young dead and scattered about outside the demolished remains of Madison Square Garden. I think fans wanted to see an aggressive Godzilla, not a creature that flees from the military 3. the concept of Godzilla being asexual and the resulting "baby" Godzillas that are produced from this characteristic of the adult monster. 4. the absence of an enemy monster in the film. I have seen the original concept art and a model of the Godzilla that would have been used in the originally conceptualized American Godzilla film, which would have been directed by Jan DeBont. It looked much truer to Toho's Godzilla and would have IMO been very well received by American audiences. The "Gryphon", the enemy monster of this failed movie project, also looked impressive and formidable as a potential adversary of Godzilla. The 1998 American Godzilla film did produce a very decent cartoon series. The film itself has been released to both VHS(I actually have a widescreen copy of it on VHS) and Region 1 DVD(I have the DVD also). Not too long ago a "Monster Edition" R1 DVD release of Godzilla was released but it offers little if anything in the way of additional extras and is IMO ot worth buying. Godzilla is tentatively scheduled to be released to Blu-Ray DVD but no specific release date has been announced yet. More than anything, this film conjures up a lot of "what ifs" and "what could have beens" for me and, I suspect, a whole lot of other Godzilla fans. We have Dean Devlin to thank for that. I'm glad the film got made because I still think this film has its place in Godzilla history and fandom. As many Godzilla fans have said, the film entertains to some degree as a giant monster movie but it's not accepted as a "Godzilla" movie. This sentiment is one I share, wholeheartedly. The trailer for Godzilla(1998): |
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| Godzillaheisei546 | May 31 2009, 04:40 PM Post #120 |
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I find it a little cool to see three simpson voice actors, Nancy Cartwright, Harrey shear, and Hank azaria. Weird. |
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