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Godzilla Vs The Cosmic Monster(1974); Discuss the film here.
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On March 21, 1974 the Toho Eizo Company released Gojira Tai Mekagojira, aka Godzilla Vs The Cosmic Monster. This film was released in the U.S. in March, 1977. In this film we are introduced to a character that is widely considered the most powerful Godzilla foe in all of Godzilla's fim history: his robot double. The story: a very old "end-of-the world" foretelling, written on the wall of a cave in Okinawa, seemingly comes true when an unusually malevolent Godzilla emerges from the ground and begins an immediate rampage of mainland Japan. The monster Angilas, sensing that something is not quite right with his kaiju "counterpart" Godzilla, also emerges from the strata and immediately does battle with his supposed "friend". Angilas, severely wounded in his fight with 'Godzilla' retreats back under the ground. Later, this evil Godzilla is confronted by the real Godzilla, who blasts off the skin of his lookalike enemy to reveal a robot made in his own image. A brief but intense fight ensues, Godzilla wounded and escaping into the nearby ocean, "Mechagodzilla", as we discover the instrument by which a race of simian-looking aliens hope to use to conquer Earth, damaged and forced to return to the alien's subterranean base for repairs. Meanwhile, an Okinawan royal family revives a guardian monster named King Seesar, who, as the prophecy foretells, fights alongside Godzilla, together fighting Mechagodzilla at the film's climax(no spoilers). Observations: this is easily my favorite of the 70's Godzilla films. The score is catchy, the pyrotechnics from the battles terrific(as usual) from special effects director Teruyoshi Nakano. The battle scenes are well-rendered and fun to watch. The villains in this movie are truly bad, especially their leader, a cruel and sadistic jackass, very easy to despise. Mechagodzilla's arsenal of weapons is awesome, and the new powers Godzilla displays(e.g. magnetizing his own body) are interesting. Their are always flaws, to be sure. For me there are none that IMO seriously detracted from this film, which is available on Reg 2 and also Reg 1 DVD(Columbia/Tri-Star), in widescreen. Post your opinions and critiques of this movie here, along with anything related. All replies welcome. :)
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One of godzillas best movies!! It's very unique and has one of the best music scores ever!
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I've always enjoyed this effort. The imposter Godzilla was quite impressive and as mentioned, the villains were very easy to develop an intense hate for and the score for the film is quite good. The first time I can recall seeing this film was sitting in a hospital bed, watching this on TV and awaiting the removal of tonsils. Godzilla has always made trying times just a bit easier to handle. :)
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Good movie. Probably the best of the 70's flicks, in my view. Sato's jazzy score was catchy, the characters were quite good, Mecha-G was a cool new threat, and I liked King Seesar as well. Not bad...not bad at all.
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Whoops! I totally forgot to mention King Seesar! I think King Seesar is very neat, just one more reason to enjoy the film. Mr Green
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Apr 23 2006, 04:22 PM
Sato's jazzy score was catchy...

So catchy that part of it made it's way into the Godzilla Final Wars(2004) soundtrack: you can hear it during the scene where the two big guys in the Arctic guardhouse( Ray Sefo and Gary Goodridge, both real life K-1 fighters) are talking-their "office" overlooking Godzilla's icy tomb Mr Green
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Yep. I noticed that right away since it's my favorite cue from Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla. Hearing that music in GFW made me laugh.
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Yep. I noticed that right away since it's my favorite cue from Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla. Hearing that music in GFW made me laugh.

Indeed. Hearing these two big gorillas speak their lines made me laugh. nod
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This was a boost from Godzilla vs Megalon, to me MechaGodzilla is one of Godzilla's best foes.

King Seesar is an ok kaiju and I do like it when his ears flop up.

Anguirus I felt sorry for him, Good thing the real Godzilla came and kicked MechaGodzilla's metallic butt.

The Special Effects are impressive and are perhaps one of the best of the 70's.
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... to me MechaGodzilla is one of Godzilla's best foes
Agreed, along with King Ghidorah and Mothra. thumbs up

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King Seesar is an ok kaiju and I do like it when his ears flop up
I liked King Seesar's crystalline eyes, which could reflect back Mechagodzilla's beam attacks. Considering that this was his only real "weapon" I thought King Seesar hung in there fairly well against an opponent with far more firepower to bring to bear in a fight(Mechagodzilla).

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Anguirus I felt sorry for him
So did I. Anguirus always shows no fear and puts up a good fight, which unfortunately for him sometimes results in him getting his behind whipped. tongue-1
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your attached image looks like toys little bit
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your attached image looks like toys little bit

Yes, I agree. The Godzilla suit used in Godzilla Vs The Cosmic Monster(1974) is not one of the better "G" suits, in my opinion. It's not the worst either-I would rank it somewhere in the middle. :)
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Yes, The Godzilla suti wasn't the best, but King Ceasar was awesome and so was MechaGodzilla. Sato's score was probably the best of the 1970's era of Godzilla movies.
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Problem is with the look is before with Megalon and after with Terror, the Godzilla design tooked too.....cute for lack of a better word but I guess by this point it was well established that Godzilla was now a good guy and that wanted his image to reflect that. Either way if the whole hero era was as good as this one I highly doubt people would have hated it so much.
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Problem is with the look is before with Megalon and after with Terror, the Godzilla design tooked too.....cute for lack of a better word but I guess by this point it was well established that Godzilla was now a good guy and that wanted his image to reflect that

Indeed. My gripe with the suit used in G Vs MG and TOMG was that the head's eyes looked too large. Truth be told the head of this G suit kind of reminded me of a dog.

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Sato's score was probably the best of the 1970's era of Godzilla movies
Agreed though I admit that, from what I've seen at various boards, people seem to either really like this score or strongly dislike it.
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That's sad. I can listen to the score pretty much all the time, but my wife HATES the King Ceaqsar song.....and so does my mom. weird.



I do agree with the "Cutsie" looking Godzilla suit from the 70's. The one for this movie is pretty much the same from Godzilla vs Megalon, but it's a little tamer and the suit actor makes him walk like a pissed off drunk guy. lol
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the suit actor makes him walk like a pissed off drunk guy


I thought the Godzilla from Godzilla vs Megalon walked alright, I personally say the Drunk Godzilla is from Mothra vs Godzilla (1964).
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That's sad. I can listen to the score pretty much all the time, but my wife HATES the King Ceaqsar song.....and so does my mom. weird.



I do agree with the "Cutsie" looking Godzilla suit from the 70's. The one for this movie is pretty much the same from Godzilla vs Megalon, but it's a little tamer and the suit actor makes him walk like a pissed off drunk guy. lol

I don't think Godzilla looked particularly drunk...however I did find that since the mid 60's Godzilla's mannerisms seemed to become more humanized to the point Godzilla where from an animalistic giant monster and force on destruction into a giant anthromorphic hero

I'll have to say this film did do pretty well in music with it's jazzy upbeat music but I've always preferred Akira Ifukube's music as it always seemed to creat a proper sense of tension inf the battles even in some of the more cheesy films I found his work added something....but I do liked the music here as well.
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Who played Godzilla in this movie? I was talking about how he carried himself. Walking with his head down and stomping very hard as he walked. Much different from the other films. Watch the scene where he reappears to "Save" King Ceasar. Head down, Looking over his brow. Pumping his arms with every step. Not that it's a bad thing. just different.
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Who played Godzilla in this movie?

Isao Zushi.
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So, I just got home from a meeting today and was really tired. I put Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla on and you know the beginning, where Anguirius is roaring at the beginning and Godzilla appears out of a mountain or something. Was that supposed to be taking place AFTER Anguirius' battle with MechaGodzilla? But it was just put at the beginning for effects. And I know that wasn't monster Island. Any ideas?
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So, I just got home from a meeting today and was really tired. I put Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla on and you know the beginning, where Anguirius is roaring at the beginning and Godzilla appears out of a mountain or something. Was that supposed to be taking place AFTER Anguirius' battle with MechaGodzilla? But it was just put at the beginning for effects. And I know that wasn't monster Island

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I haven't watched Godzilla Vs Mechagodzilla(1974) since the fall of last year so I may have to look at it again before I can give a specific response. I'm familiar with the scene where Anguirus fights with "Godzilla"(actually MG disguised as Godzilla), gets his mouthed ripped asunder and goes retreating back into the ground. I always figured this scene was produced to establish that, despite the Black Hole aliens attempt to make their machine look like Godzilla, it wasn't going to fool, at the very least, one monster(Anguirus), as well as, obviously, and later, the real Godzilla.
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The very beginning, before the titles. Anguirius is walking along and Roaring and Godzilla Pops out of this mountain and then the titles appear. It's weird. I've seen this movie hundreds of times and It just hit me the other night that this scene actually took place AFTER Anguirius' battle with MechaGodzilla and he was "Calling" for Godzilla. Am I just crazy, or does that make sence to anyone else?
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The very beginning, before the titles. Anguirius is walking along and Roaring and Godzilla Pops out of this mountain and then the titles appear. It's weird. I've seen this movie hundreds of times and It just hit me the other night that this scene actually took place AFTER Anguirius' battle with MechaGodzilla and he was "Calling" for Godzilla. Am I just crazy, or does that make sence to anyone else?

I watched Godzilla Vs Mechagodzilla(1974) earlier tonight. In the opening scene I see Angilas slowly moving about some large rocks and boulders, then the monster roars. The camera moves away from Angilas to a large outcropping of rock by the ocean, where there are several flashes, seemingly coming from the rock itself. I didn't see Godzilla emerge after these flashes, just the title of the movie appear suddenly on the screen.
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But do you get the idea that this scene takes place AFTER Anguirius' battle with MechaGodzilla? That wa what I though of, anyway. Kind of like in Pulp Fiction, where some stuff that takes place at a later date is at the beginning. Or maybe I'm just crazy.
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But do you get the idea that this scene takes place AFTER Anguirius' battle with MechaGodzilla?

Not initially, no. After thinking about it a little...I could see how this scene would be used in the manner you suggest, kind of a pre "flash forward" scene.
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Thank the Maker! I'm not crazy! It seemed like that idea might work and all of the new ideas they were trying in the '70s. I figured that might be it. And it's a good way to prove that Anguirius was ok after his battle. He was calling for help.
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Why was the video of the wiescreen version of Godzilla vs. Cosmic Monster titles taken off of Youtube?
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Why was the video of the widescreen version of Godzilla vs. Cosmic Monster titles taken off of Youtube?
I've read that Toho is cracking down on YouTube to not display these videos hence YouTube may have effected the removal of this clip. The person who posted this clip may have also removed it voluntarily.
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^It was Baradagi... I knew him back at tohokingdom before I was banned there... he was a genious. I am going to ave to track down the vhs...
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