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| Gojira(1954) and GKOTM(1956); Discuss these two films & their DVDs | |
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| Rodan70 | Feb 26 2009, 01:15 AM Post #151 |
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Kneel before ZOD
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You could ask 20 people and get 20 different answers to which is the "Best" Godzilla movie. I love Ghidrah: The Three-Headed Monster. different tastes. That's what makes these forums wonderful. You get to hear every side for which one is the best. I love it! |
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| G2Kmaster | Feb 26 2009, 01:18 AM Post #152 |
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^Yep. Especialy how GTTHM is set up human wise, it is an exciting movie... which could use better animation of Goji's beam. Other than that, that film is pretty good... |
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| Godzillaheisei546 | Feb 26 2009, 09:49 PM Post #153 |
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GRRRRR! oh well, i won't judge your opinion no longer. |
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| G2Kmaster | Feb 26 2009, 11:30 PM Post #154 |
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BIGGEST GODZILLA NERD HERE!-Monster Island Hall Of Famer
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No, go ahread and judge. |
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| packmule | Feb 26 2009, 11:46 PM Post #155 |
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Don't mind if I do: what is your issue, including specifics, with Godzilla's beam from Ghidrah The Three Headed Monster? |
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| G2Kmaster | Apr 2 2009, 03:09 AM Post #156 |
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![]() As many of you may know, I am a die hard kaiju fan. Though some people have told me that I need to be more than just a kaiju fan for the people who make the films think of super adicted fanboys to be odd but also it is "unhealthy". While I have made it my duty to not be akward like the stereotypical nerd (Revenge of the Nerds anyone?), I still manage to be a mega nerd when it comes to brains. And all who have them know about the colorized version of Godzilla, King of the Monsters. Now, most casual fans would not watch this version and since most casual fans I have known/seen, I would not prefer it unless stuff I mention in this review becomes rather to your liking. But to the rest of you, you have not had the full Gojira/GKOTM till you have scene this obscure yet obscene version out of the heart of Italy. Now, this is what I take as the begining of when black and white movies were to be colorized. But, thoes who complained about the colorization look of the original King Kong are going to faint when they see what has happened to their beloved Godzilla. Edvidently, gels were put onto the film, therefore giving almost every shot in the film just one color (usualy yellow or blue). Kind of reminds me of a Kitamura picture, since Kitamura likes to color code his sets. The colorization I felt was more symbolic than anything. Not really done for the sake of there needing to be a colorized version since the original two versions were in black and white but just because. Really sloppy at first glance, but you get used to it by the time the cast get to Odo Island. The Italian dubbing is much like American dubs done in Hong Kong. They are lifeless except for the Italian dubbing Raymond Burr. That was good. The storyline is though not changed at all from the original versions but rather use synonyms in the translation. The SFX of the film is where the real changes come into play. The film is usualy started with Goji's breath attacking the boat or the scene where Steve Martin for a couple of seconds wakes in the debris of Tokyo. This film does something which is IMO a big plus for the film: shows footage of the atomic bomb, before and after. This is perfect to go along with an edited version of the original Godzilla, no sarcasm intended. I really did like it. The only thing is the music, which makes me think of something between a phycological thriller and some kind of bad metal show. The Godzilla footage is rather done alot of harm. While little kaiju footage has been taken out, we still got one thing comming: replaying of the same footage over and over again. With the train station sequence extended by 3 minutes and the main attack on Tokyo extended by 5 minutes, you get alot of repetition and alot of disaster footage (from WW2 and from other events) comming your way. What realy makes it good though is that while the film is thematic enough if you see past the strong, ugly colors, but there is a scene that you would think that Godzilla is done attcking Tokyo and he is about to go into the ocean where the JSDF planes will scare him off. NO! This is not the same in this colorized version. Godzilla actualy attacks the JSDF, causes a gigantic wave to wash all over Tokyo, and all around the coast line - bombs the sixth of the size of the A-Bomb explode. And while all of this is happening, we got all sounds seemingly surpressed with the only soud you are supposed to be hearing is the prayer being sung. Really, it is the only scene in which this version can triumph over the Japanese and American versions of the film. Really feels like the end of G2K and feels like a Coppola directed scene. Such beauty. Another really altered scene is where Ogata and Serizawa plant the Oxygen Destroyer. More suspence is added, only with there being added footage of a shark attacking an octopus before Godzilla's presence. Once the Oxygen Destroyer detonates the chemicals into the watry composition, Godzilla rises up for his final roar and all of this stock footage of a whole armada of Navy battle ships attack Godzilla. While this is not what happened in the US or JP versions of the film, it does make sence as to why this added scene actualy leaves no plot holes that at that exact moment Godzilla was vulnerable to weapons since the Oxygen Destroyer would have most probrably already weakened his hide. While I do not think this should have been added to the film, I do think it is a very interesting addition that makes the film more action packed so if you watch GFW and want more action, watch this film. The rest of the film is realy just like the US print, with part of Shinkichi's parent's deaths come, it is the JP version audio till US footage comes then the film goes on. Overall, the film is nothing that people should really hate (says the guy who has a D-WAR obsession). But the film pales in comparison to both JP and US versions. While excelling in some areas, the coloring is just bad and some of the stock footage from Italy's film archives should have really been picked out better. I give this film: 7/10 Watch the film now! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8074527682913389288 |
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| Rodan70 | Apr 2 2009, 05:55 PM Post #157 |
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That's really messed up. but it's very interesting. the intro lasts forever. |
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| packmule | Apr 2 2009, 05:59 PM Post #158 |
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I tried watching this colorized version and had to stop.
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| G2Kmaster | Apr 2 2009, 06:48 PM Post #159 |
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LOL, it took me two times to watch it. I got it on a bootleg DVD now. Thanks Sony camcorder. |
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| G2Kmaster | Apr 11 2009, 12:08 AM Post #160 |
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It is counted as a sin to not have the original Gojira in atleast your top 25 fave films list among thoes in the fandom, if you have seen it. Because it is one of the best films ever made in a critical sence. One good example of this is this critique of the film by Ed Godziszewski in his book THE ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF GODZILLA. But once in a while, someone reviews the film negativley. And 2/1 times, the review is for all the WONG reasons. The best example of this is the review done by the infamous Roger Ebert of the Chicago-Sun Times. So here, is judge his review and notice the innacuracies within it and the mistakes he, if he was a true proffessional, would not have made. And here we go!
Roger Ebert is, of course, someone who prides himself in watching only what people could say is "prince cinematic art" like the Godfather, Last Temptation of Christ, and other works. Now, while watching thiese films for so long, his level of expectations for such a reserved classic such as "Godzilla" really is higher than what Godzilla fan's expectations are. However, he gives the reaser the impressions with the last sentance in this first paragraph that he one, gives off the fact that he thinks this film was just made. If not, which I hope that is the fact, he thinks that by comparing this film to the H-Bombings, he can compare Farenheit 9/11 to the War which brought the demise of Saddam Hussein. He completely blows this out of porportion and he clearly does not know about the Lucky Dragon No. 5 incident and the Fish Scare which was sent around Japan. Let's read on. So far, Godzilla 1, Ebert 0.
So the monkey does have a brain. Ok, so why make the analogy: Lucky Dragon No. 5 and Hiroshima : Godzilla :: Farenheit 9/11 : 2003 Washington
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Public Health Problem. Yep, GKOTM haters should find this as the only redeeming part of this review of the film.
Let's see M-i-k-e F-l-o-r-e-s. His number? I want to talk to this guy. Seems interesting.
I am pretty sure that as a proffessional reviewer that what you just said is like a lawyer making love with his secretary behind his wife's back. Not proffessional and verry child like. He fully knows the age of this film, and if he knew some stuff about the Japanese Film Industry - like his idol Mr. Scorsesse does especialy with Kurosawa - he would know that from grading from a "for what it is standpoint", his jusgement is unfair.
It is quotes like tiese in which I wonder how someone becomes a proffessional film critic. It is just becoming a reviewer for a high profile new paper. Does he learn how to grade films equaly? Or is he just racist against Japanese Cinema? Or does he like to immaturely judge a scientific happening without science know how? If he did, or if he had a bit of common sence, he would know that he used only enough to make the chemicals effective. The viewer most probrably assumes that Serizawa's Oxygen Destroyer is a recent invention and that Serizawa most probrably does not know everything about it yet. So he would have taken this downized version as a "precaution" to use just enough.
There are two scenes like this. Neither have search lights, dick. You are just now making things up. How immature and if I dare say, egotistical. Obviously, either this film was so complex that you just did not really care after the halfway point or you had to use the restroom after the first five minutes and just counted the minutes, hoping that the end would come soon and that every know and then, the film helps your mind get off your engourged bladder burden. Saddening. Plus, watch Godzilla vs. Hedorah. He CAN.
Your claim that the dialouge is "hairbraned" is rather opiniontive, don't you think? Critical reviewing, while never perfectly due to our humanity, is to be as true as factual grading as possible. This is just reckless reviewing. Like this review as a whole. But the last part seems to show you get about .05% what the film is about.
Hmmm... saying that this film is bad and that King Kong could be used as in essence a remake "Gojira", with Godzilla being replaced with King Kong and the bombings replaced with 9/11 is just, stupid. This man does not do something which all good film critics do: look at a film's production history throughly before viewing and reviewing the film. Wow this guy is bad. Another interesting point someone needs to bring up is the fact that he seems to have rushed his review. I checked three other reviews just to see his "style": "Spawn", "The Godfather Part 2", and "The Last Temptation of Christ". The review for this film seems to be rushed. The other three aforementioned films had great review structure - he covered 90% of all angles of a movie a good critic should: plot, acting, SFX reguarding the time it was made and the conditions of it was made, and direction. But his review for "Spawn", which he gave 3 1/2 stars (he gave "The Godfather 2 less, just to let you know) was not whole harted and gave off the impression that he rated the film only at the SFX. So, overall, I review his review as this: Roger Ebert is either: 1.Racist against the Japanese 2.An Idiot who somehow is the Kim Jong Il of the critic buisness 3.Just had his head in his ass the day he reviewed the film. |
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| Godzillaheisei546 | Apr 11 2009, 11:19 AM Post #161 |
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This is one of my favorite critics, let the record show I liked Gene better. Of all of eberts reveiws, this is the worst! |
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| packmule | Apr 11 2009, 06:31 PM Post #162 |
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My reaction to your assessments: -on #1 I'm inclined to disagree. I've never heard Roger Ebert, who I consider a blowhard who enjoys hearing himself talk, say anything that would suggest he's racist. -on #2, that's a possibility. I have often considered Ebert an idiot. -on #3, that's probably physically impossible, especially for a man of Ebert's overall physique. If he did manage to stick his head up inside his behind I would consider it an improvement in his overall appearance. |
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| packmule | May 7 2009, 07:25 AM Post #163 |
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Classic Media has announced that it will release Gojira(1954) to Blu-Ray DVD on 9/22/09: http://www.fangoria.com/home/news/16-dvd-a-blu-ray/2356-gojira-stomps-onto-blu-ray.html
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| G2Kmaster | May 7 2009, 04:22 PM Post #164 |
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Holy SH!T FOOKING A$$!!!!!!! This is something worth cussing over. |
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| packmule | May 7 2009, 07:34 PM Post #165 |
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In light of the Blu-Ray announcement by Fangoria regarding the film Gojira, Ken Hulsey has posted an interesting and informative article, at his "Robo Japan" blog, about Godzilla movie preservation, the article(which appeared in G-Fan) authored by Armand Vaquer. To read this article click the link: http://robojapan.blogspot.com/2009/05/preserving-godzilla-and-blu-ray.html |
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