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| The Official "A Nightmare On Elm Street" thread; Talk about Freddy Krueger and the films | |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 19 2008, 12:14 PM Post #1 |
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I decided that Freddy Krueger deserved his own topic here. Anyway I'm a big fan of the series, mostly because of the "Killer in your dream" idea since it makes it different from the other slashers made before it. The first one is a classic with good special effects (For the budget and year it was made), characters and soundtrack... while the sequels to follow were not as good as the first and lost the horror side (Well ANOES 2 is mainly horror but it was more disappointing the the other sequels IMO, ANOES 3 had the horror/comedy side and New Nightmare was the return of the horror), I still enjoy watching them. Also Freddy Krueger is one of my favorite characters.
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| packmule | Apr 19 2008, 08:07 PM Post #2 |
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Though not my favorite horror icon Fred Krueger I'm still a great fan of the NOES films. The original, IMO, is still the best. Here's the trailer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=37...QL1oaWoBA&hl=en |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 19 2008, 11:54 PM Post #3 |
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While I found the franchise on the whole rather hit and miss Freddy has always been a great horror icon and I loved the 1st and 3rd....I'm royally pissed that Micheal Bay fired Robert Englund as Freddy claiming at 58 he is now to old to play the role |
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| packmule | Apr 20 2008, 06:25 AM Post #4 |
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Personally, I don't think Robert Englund is too old to play the role of "Freddy Krueger" either. The franchise won't be the same without him. I also liked the 1985 sequel, called A Nightmare On Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge. The trailer: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EEzIyITaM_k |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 20 2008, 08:47 AM Post #5 |
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Well I agree he isn't too old...particularly under all that burn make-up...I mean it's Robert Englund that made made the role so iconic and to fire him from it is just an insult. I was never a fan of Micheal Bay....I've always kinda seen him as a hack but as a horror buff his has really crossed a line. Nightmare 2 in all truthfulness was my least favorites as I felt it seemed kind of lackluster and had muddy cinematography that's more like what you'd see in a Telemovie....and the biggest problem is it's embarrassingly unintentional homo erotic undertones like the towel whipping scene...I don't know what they were thinking on that one. |
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| packmule | Apr 20 2008, 03:31 PM Post #6 |
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It's still sometimes hard to believe that Johnny Depp made his theatrical debut in 1984's A Nightmare On Elm Street. Slain, have you seen Freddy Vs Jason(2003)? If you have what's your take on this one? |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 20 2008, 05:31 PM Post #7 |
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on the whole it wasn't great....had it moments but i was essentially a gimmicky cash in that given the horror icons should have been far better then it was. While it was good to see Jason and Robert Englund return to Elm Street we had to put up with some of the most annoying teens since those dreadful Scream movies and there were other scenes that bugged me like Jason throwing people for miles which just seemed far too cartoonish and the dreadful caterpillar Freddy scene and the whole film was very heavily one sided to Jason so you instantly know who is going to win.....however to the films credit there are a number of enjoyable moments and builds to a suitable climax....so I didn't hate it....but I didn't love it either. |
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| packmule | Apr 20 2008, 05:59 PM Post #8 |
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Man I love this trailer, for the third NOES film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGNHdsZi3v0 |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 20 2008, 07:31 PM Post #9 |
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I really liked Nightmare on Elm Street 3...while not as good as the original I found really followed it up well as it's a more direct sequel then number 2, with returning characters and what not. This film I felt was the only one that could properly juggle both the horror and comedy elements. I found the sequels after this to undermine Nancy's achievements that cost her life which is why I felt that number 4 was an unfocused sequel which after all the Dream Warrior's were killed there weren't any Elm Street children left and the film just plodded along pointlessly. |
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| packmule | Apr 21 2008, 05:39 AM Post #10 |
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In light of Robert Englund being out of the new NOES film I wonder if an unknown actor will be selected for the role or someone with a "Name" in the movie industry. From what I gather the new NOES film will delve into the circumstances that led to Fred Krueger being roasted by the group of angry parents. |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 21 2008, 06:13 AM Post #11 |
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I can't accept anyone else as Freddy....also if they made a Freddy Vs Jason 2 Robert Englund will not be playing him anymore as Micheal Bay say that his too old for the part and it's time he steps down for someone younger to play the part.....Personally I think it's royally unfair as it undermines the 2 decades he spent playing the role. |
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| packmule | Apr 21 2008, 10:29 PM Post #12 |
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Hopefully Michael Bay can get Englund into the film in some other role. Of course Robert Englund might not be amenable to that. I've seen that a "re-imagining" of "Friday The 13th" is going to be made. Mostly, I just wish Hollywood would leave these older horror classics the hell alone. |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 21 2008, 11:41 PM Post #13 |
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Amen to that....I mean we really don't need more crappy remakes that just are not patch on the original....frankly there aren't many remakes as good as the original 2 pop into mind 1953 House of Wax was a remake of the 30's film Mystery at the Wax Museum and the 1982 version of The Thing....for the most part I hate remakes they did a lousy Job of remaking Texas Chainsaw Massacre, dreadful remakes of House on Haunted Hill (dispite having Jeffery Combs) and don't get me started on the new remake of House of Wax....there is a saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 23 2008, 05:42 AM Post #14 |
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In order to keep this topic alive, here's my ranking of all the films from my favorite to least favorite. 1: A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984) 2: A Nightmare On Elm Street 3 - Dream Warriors (1987)/Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) 3: A Nightmare On Elm Street 4 - The Dream Master (1988) 4: Freddy's Dead - The Final Nightmare (1991) 5: A Nightmare On Elm Street 5 - The Dream Child (1989) 6: A Nightmare On Elm Street 2 - Freddy's Revenge (1985) 7: Freddy Vs Jason (2003) 8: A Nightmare On Elm Street (2010) |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 23 2008, 08:44 AM Post #15 |
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While not the worst on my list (that spot goes to Nightmare 2) but I really didn't care much for New Nightmare....it seemed overated...sure it bought it back to a darker tone but it seemed to have no new scare of it's own and lead us to believe that Heather Langenkamp has no friends other then fellow co-stars from a Nightmare on Elm Street and I really didn't like the new look for Freddy....he looked like a rubber witch that had been attacked by a cheese grater....though I did like that trench coat |
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| packmule | Apr 23 2008, 03:58 PM Post #16 |
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The trailer for Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare(1991): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...OEY74rAKdvoi7BA Freddy Krueger: "What's with kids these days?"
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| EternalBattra | Apr 23 2008, 10:38 PM Post #17 |
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That's cool. :). I like the Freedy movies. Favorite Freddy movie was Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare. :) |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 24 2008, 12:48 AM Post #18 |
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I can understand because when I first watched it, I thought New Nightmare was nothing special but after watching it a few more times, I now like it a lot.
If you thought that was funny, I recommend watching it.
Hello, I haven't seen you post here in a while. Freddy's Dead used to be my most favorite a long time ago, but after watching it as well as all the other films, FD went down but I still like it and find it underrated.
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| packmule | Apr 24 2008, 04:31 PM Post #19 |
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The trailer for Wes Craven's New Nightmare(1994), a film that was received well by critics but did not fare very well at the box office: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...SLIOcrwKi4cC0BA |
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| EternalBattra | Apr 24 2008, 06:38 PM Post #20 |
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Hi. I know sorry. :( |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2008, 07:42 PM Post #21 |
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No need for apologies. We're just glad you're back! :) thumbs up The trailer for A Nightmare On Elm Street 4: The Dream Master: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...PBYT2rQKLxs2sAg |
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| EternalBattra | Apr 24 2008, 08:33 PM Post #22 |
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Thanks, packmule. :) |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2008, 08:59 PM Post #23 |
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You're welcome buddy. :) Topic: though I do not like the idea of a Robert Englund-less NOES film I have to admit I'm curious as to who will get the "Krueger" role...and what the first trailer for this film will look like. |
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| EternalBattra | Apr 24 2008, 09:27 PM Post #24 |
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Yea. Maybe the trailler will be something like the others. Maybe. ~_^ |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 24 2008, 11:37 PM Post #25 |
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All I have to say about it is if it ain't Englund...it ain't Freddy |
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| EternalBattra | Apr 25 2008, 12:32 AM Post #26 |
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That's true. |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 26 2008, 06:00 AM Post #27 |
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I agree. Does anyone else here like Freddy's Dead more then ANOES 2?.
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| packmule | Apr 26 2008, 08:14 AM Post #28 |
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Not me. I think the reason I like the first two NOES films the best is because, to me, Freddy doesn't lay on the one liners as much. The first two films seem to have a darker, more edgy "feel". I like the third NOES film as well. These movies started to go down hill, for me, with the fourth NOES film. ;) |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 26 2008, 08:29 AM Post #29 |
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While ANOES 2 doesn't have Freddy using one-liners and is more serious/dark, I still like Freddy's Dead slightly more over it, here are my reasons: Part 2's homosexual tone (IMO doesn't work well with the serious tone) Freddy attacking people during the pool party scene (Many of the teens are bigger then him.. IMO they could have fought back) The human faced dogs (I didn't like it) The Exploding bird (Another Idea I didn't like) The Kills (IMO Not very creative... a guy getting stripped naked and whipped by towels is one of my least favorite Freddy kills)
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| packmule | Apr 26 2008, 09:15 AM Post #30 |
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The theatrical trailer for A Nightmare On Elm Street 5: The Dream Child(1989): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iBL3Pe8HU |
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