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| "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" movie thread; Discussion of all the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" films | |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 22 2008, 06:06 PM Post #1 |
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Well I found it fair time I made a Texas Chainsaw Massacre thread....Well I'll start of by saying the Texas Chainsaw Massacre did NOT really happen and has been a common misconception particularly since the crappy remake with it's so call "real footage". The original franchise contained 4 films: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974): Directed by Tobe Hooper was a horror classic mainly due to gritty realism which made it all seem believable even if the plot itself was actually almost non-existent. The film while looks dated and low budget in a way oddly kinda adds to it tone and even more oddly makes it look less staged and is what gave it it's gritty feel. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (1986): Also directed by Tobe Hooper wasn't a rushed out sequel as he didn't want to make a sequel that was practically the same film all over again. While I personally found it to be a better film it received mixed feelings as it was to many too different more orientated to dark humor, surreal visuals and actually showing the gore rather then implying it....the film also had more of a plot and has become one of the biggest love it or hate it films in horror history though seems more popular today then it was back in the 80's. Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III (1989): This film was made as an attempt to replace Freddy Kruger after a not so good run at the boxoffice in Nightmare 5 but ended being even less successful. The film itself is certainly better then most slasher films around as to keeps the pace up and is well enough directed....but was ultimately the beginning of the decline for the series....like number 2 has gotten more popular in recent years then it was in the day. Texas Chainsaw Massacre: Next Generation (1994): Written and directed by the co-writer of them original Kim Henkle you'd hope it to be good....the it couldn't be more the opposite as it's actually one of the worst horror sequels ever made and unlike 2 and 3 has remained just as hated for good reason. Then we have the Remake and it's Prequel.....well they were both pretty poor also so I'd rather not go into great deal as the best way to describe them is flat and this post is already long enough....sufficed to say neither were any good. |
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| packmule | Apr 22 2008, 08:38 PM Post #2 |
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I have seen only the original(1974) and the remake(with Jessica Biel). I did not like, overall, the remake. I did like the 1974 classic directed by Tobe Hooper. I bought the Dark Sky Films R1 release of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre last year. It's one wonky and disturbing movie...one reason why I enjoy watching it from time to time. The trailer for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre(1974): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=285ImXTYdsg The trailer for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre(2003): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMiYjJqx8m0&feature=related Bonus-the trailer for House Of 1000 Corpses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MkEeHsSccU&feature=related |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 23 2008, 12:51 AM Post #3 |
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Interesting you put up the trailer for House of 1000 Corpses as that film very much tried to mimic elements from the first 2.....the film in plot and the second more in style....ultimately I didn't think it went so well...House of 1000 Corpses sequel The Devil's Rejects also took much of the plot from TCM2 |
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| packmule | Apr 23 2008, 05:02 AM Post #4 |
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I preferred House Of 1000 Corpses to The Devil's Rejects. The latter, while obviously featuring over the top violence, sadism, cruelty and disturbing imagery, just seemed a little more predictable. I did enjoy watching William Forsythe in action. He is, IMO, an underrated actor. Topic: I remember wanting to watch The Texas Chainsaw Massacre(1974) at the theater when I was a kid. My parents forbid me from seeing it. |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 23 2008, 05:38 AM Post #5 |
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The only TCM film Ive seen was the remake, it was better then most remakes made today. I really want to see the original films. Also I really dislike House of 1000 Corpses, its my most disliked film. |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 23 2008, 08:37 AM Post #6 |
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Over all I didn't care a great deal for either....The best was Otis Driftwood who was essentially a wanna be Choptop from Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 who happened to be played by the same actor Bill Mosley.....I kinda felt that these films were the ill made Frankensteins monster of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre films.....that said it was better then the 4th.....There is no preparing for how bas TCM:NG is.....avoid it at all costs as I disliked it more then I did Final Wars...and that's saying something with me |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2008, 04:52 AM Post #7 |
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Matthew, I believe you'll be better able to judge the quality of the TCM remake(of 2003) after you've watched the 1974 original. ;) |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 24 2008, 05:10 AM Post #8 |
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I can guess that the remake isnt as impressive as the original, thats for sure. |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2008, 05:15 AM Post #9 |
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The original TCM film has an odd quirkiness about it, no doubt because of director Tobe Hooper. The 2003 remake is not, IMO, terrible by any stretch of the imagination. It's violent and often disturbing, and includes images of gore you'd expect from a movie such as this. The remake was also, IMO, somewhat predictable. I'm sure some would agree with me there and some would not. I know several people who like the TCM remake and believe the original to be lousy. cross-eyed |
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| josh TX | Apr 24 2008, 06:06 AM Post #10 |
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Just my 2 cents here, but in my opinion the sequel to the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which starred Dennis Hopper, was by far one of the worst sequels I had ever seen to any movie. It was also directed by Hooper, and how he could let the original masterpiece be followed by such a campy piece of garbage I'll never know. It was awful, please dont waste your time if you havent seen it. There was also a third sequel to the original called Leatherface, its not to great either but it's definetly better than the second. It stars Ken Foree from Dawn of the Dead as a survivalist being pursued by Leatherface. At least the 2003 remake TCM was followed by a decent sequel. The 2nd chainsaw massacre was so bad it made me hate Dennis Hopper and I didnt want to watch another Tobe Hooper film again, either. As far as that remake they made with Matthew Mc Conaughey, I havent seen it yet but heard it was pretty bad. |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 24 2008, 09:36 AM Post #11 |
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That's a prefect exaple of when I said the film is love it or hate it as the film seems to get either one reaction or the other....I personally felt the opposite way about it and TCM 2 has formed a rather large and growing fan base...so there are alot of people that like the film....that side....those who wanna give the film a try should go in with that in mind. |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2008, 04:11 PM Post #12 |
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While I didn't like this film that much I thought Matthew McConaughey was a riot. He really played up the role as a maniacal sociopath. He had a one liner I still remember even now, telling one of the victims he tormented: "Now I'm gonna have to kill ya but hey, it ain't no f*ckin biggie." ![]() The trailer for Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation(1990): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=66...QKrqcC1BA&hl=en |
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| josh TX | Apr 24 2008, 06:05 PM Post #13 |
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I could see maybe this film having some success if you totally disregard the tone and seriousness of the original and just consider this one a campy diversion. I guess my expectations were just alot different than what the film delivered, I personally wish they would have kept things serious and more true to the first film. |
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| Gojira | Apr 24 2008, 11:04 PM Post #14 |
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I'm a fan of the original I feel its great horror with no gore I do like Jessica beil running in the wet t shirt in the remake |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 24 2008, 11:35 PM Post #15 |
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Tobe Hooper said that he didn't want to make the same thing if her were to make a sequel as he feared that given the content would become redundant like most other slasher sequels and wanted the film to do it's own thing rather then live off the success of the first and thus is a completely different breed....and looking at TCM3 it's true....while I did like it there was somewhat of a "more of the same" feel to alot of it. Though maybe the reason the radical change didn't bother me like some was the fact that I saw number 2 first.... so I'm not saying that your oppinion of the film is wrong as it was indeed an approach that has caused alot of controversy amoung fans but you'll find that half the time you'll find the film incredibly hated and there are alot that rank it as one of the best horror comedies around....so it's very divided. So with that in mind people wanting to give it a shot would probably make it a rental first instead of rushing out and buying it....plus I guess it all depends on what appeals to your sense of humor. |
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| josh TX | Apr 25 2008, 06:37 AM Post #16 |
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Agreed. Mr. or Ms. Cool |
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| josh TX | Apr 25 2008, 06:41 AM Post #17 |
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Yeah it's definetly a "to each his own" type of thing. I've honestly never met someone who liked this film and really enjoyed it except for you but I'm glad for the sake of the franchise that it has at least some fanfare. |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 25 2008, 08:59 AM Post #18 |
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Definitely not a mainstream following I'll say that much. Then again many will say the same for Godzilla films....it would seem I enjoy quite a number of films with rather cult followings. Though as much as you hated number 2.....skip number 4 because chance are you'll hate it more....as the only person I saw whole enjoyed the film only did so because they had the hots for Renιe Zellweger |
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| Ro-Dan | Apr 25 2008, 01:02 PM Post #19 |
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Agreed on all points. The original was so gritty and "real". A truly disturbing film. Agreed again on all points, Lee! I, too, enjoyed House of 1,000 Corpses over The Devil's Rejects. I guess "Rejects" was just a little TOO DISTURBING for me. At least House of a 1,000 Corpses had a campy, comic-booky flair to it. Don't get me wrong, I liked The Devil's Rejects. Artistically, it was a far superior film and it really shows how Rob Zombie has grown as a director from his first film to his second. (I still haven't seen his Halloween remake yet) |
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| packmule | Apr 25 2008, 09:44 PM Post #20 |
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The trailer for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2(1986), directed by Tobe Hooper: http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...eoid=1178329570 I haven't seen this film. |
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 26 2008, 01:00 AM Post #21 |
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It's not a very revealing trailer which is probably a large part of why it wasn't what alot of people expected....then again the trailer for number 3 revealed even less as it had no footage from the movie. TCM 3 trailer |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 30 2008, 05:48 AM Post #22 |
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Wow... I just got The Texas Chainsaw Massacre on DVD, boy was it good. B) I cant seem to find something I could place in negative (The Bad Stuff), its just a very gritty excellent film. :) Im now wondering where to place it on my Top Ten Favs, it truly deserves a place there.
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| josh TX | Apr 30 2008, 06:21 AM Post #23 |
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Glad you liked this film so much Matthew, it's a personal favorite of mine as well. When people ask me why I think it's so good, I have a hard time coming up with just one reason, but one of the factors that really put this one up there was the way the Sawyer family home was so well done, everything about it was creepy and well detailed and shot, leading to a true feeling of uneasiness. My favorite scene was when the girl stumbles into the room full of bones and the camera zooms in on the full-size hen that's hanging in that birdcage. It feels a bit random, but wrong at the same time, and it really gave me a bad feeling about this deranged family when I saw that. Excellent prop and design work. |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 30 2008, 07:07 AM Post #24 |
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IMO I find The Texas Chainsaw Massacre better then Halloween, Friday the 13th and A Nightmare on elm street. :) does anyone else think TTCM is better then the one's I mentioned?.
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| Slainmonkey | Apr 30 2008, 08:55 AM Post #25 |
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I'll agree with that....the film is grisly unrelenting and doesn't force it's gritty tone and oddly made more believable by it's very low budget...things in this film came together probably better then anyone involved would have expected it to......it's rare for a horror film to have such a real world feel to it and it would be someone almost impossible to replicate.....my only issue with it is how stupid Kirk is....he for some reason thinks that they'll give them fuel if he lends them his guitar and when it looks like nobody is home he walks into their house.....but I dunno...that logic seemed very flawed to me |
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| TheDreadedGodOfKaiju | Apr 30 2008, 06:02 PM Post #26 |
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Well Guitar's are worth alot of money, perhaps Kirk thought that they would accept a Guitar as money.. you never know what people would accept as money. ;) While I do admit what he did was a bit stupid, but I think that he went into the house because it seemed abandoned or the squalling noises. |
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| packmule | Apr 30 2008, 06:18 PM Post #27 |
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How I'd rank these horror movie franchises, for me personally: Friday The 13th > Halloween > A Nightmare On Elm Street > The Texas Chainsaw Massacre > Hellraiser > Phantasm > Jeepers Creepers > Pumpkinhead |
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| josh TX | May 1 2008, 05:17 AM Post #28 |
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I wouldn't go walking right into anyones house, but it was the 70's...I guess people were a little friendlier then and less cautious. Nowadays you could expect to be met with the barrel of a shotgun walking into a house like that. |
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| Slainmonkey | May 1 2008, 07:40 AM Post #29 |
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Well I've seen things from the 50's which implied people from rural America would shoot at people who were on their property so I find it unlikely that the 70's would be any different....hell even Drayton Sawyer said that people around those parts aren't friendly to those poking around their property when they were at the gas station so.....I still say it's full blown stupidity on Kirk's behalf |
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| packmule | May 10 2008, 11:23 AM Post #30 |
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Kim Henkel has written another script for what may be the next Texas Chainsaw Massacre film. The link: http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_11684.html |
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