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| What Should Toho Do For The Next Godzilla Movie? | |
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| packmule | Apr 22 2006, 10:11 PM Post #1 |
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Well, I'm sure all Godzilla fans are wondering... 1. When will Godzilla return to the big screen? 2. When he does what kind of film will it be? What do you think the Toho Motion Picture Company, that holds the rights to Godzilla, should do for the next Godzilla film? Cast your vote and explain your choice. All related discussion here as well, regarding any speculation about the next Godzilla film which, according to TOHO, will be released "around" the year 2013... Thread(and poll) starter-Packmule's opinion: I initially considered a "Godzilla vs another monster" as the best scenario by which to successfully return the King Of The Monsters to the big screen. Having had more time to think about it, I now believe a stand-alone feature, with Godzilla as the only featured kaiju(like in Gojira or The Return Of Godzilla) is the best way to go. I believe TOHO has the best chance to "reinvent" Godzilla(perhaps) by isolating him as the only featured monster in the next G film-then build on that picture for the next. :) |
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| KaijuFanatic | Apr 23 2006, 10:43 AM Post #2 |
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I agree that focusing on Godzilla alone would make for an interesting film. In some of the recent films, they've shown, 'flashbacks' to Godzilla's first attack on Tokyo, but using new footage and I really enjoyed what bits they did. I think if they concentrated on just Godzilla and perhaps a new story, it could lead to some very interesting sequels, so to speak. |
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| Ro-Dan | Apr 23 2006, 11:02 AM Post #3 |
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I went with the Godzilla vs a new monster (no aliens) option. It seems like forever that Godzilla has face a new threat without aliens being involved. As far as seeing Godzy face off with classic monster...I'd wait on that. There's no problem having them guest star (i.e. Angilas alongside Godzilla) but the threat should be a new one. |
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| Ghost the Bat | Apr 23 2006, 12:37 PM Post #4 |
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I want the next Godzilla film to feature a new monster to fight, but yet, have it solo for half the movie. For example: start it out kind of like how the original did, Godzilla is newly discovered and is the main threat for about half the film, leading it to beleive Godzilla is the only one Earth should be focusing on stoping, yet a new monster appears and causes havoc...something like that. I don't know, im not good at making up backstories for movies confused I just don't want another Gojira or Godzilla 1984, those movies arew good enough the way they are, unless Toho can make a better story for a "Godzilla only" film, then it would be ok. I just wouldn't mind if they started off a new series like the way they did with the Millenium series with Godzilla 2000. It would be awesome if Godzilla could have a new Arch Nemesis as strong/cool as King Ghidorah, someone new that Godzilla can square off against more than once. |
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| packmule | Apr 24 2006, 07:22 PM Post #5 |
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I like that idea as well...just not sure that TOHO should include this monster in the first "return" feature film of Godzilla. Are you at all familar with the Godzilla comics, Ghost? I'm not sure what issue it was, but Godzilla squared off against a trio of kaiju called the "War Monsters"-these monsters were all space monsters, and "trained" to fight, much like soldiers, or like fighting canines in illegal dogfights. I always thought this comic's storyline was very cool. Another comic book monster that I think might make a good adversary for Godzilla in the next series of films: Bagorah, the gigantic bat monster. This kaiju has an enormous wingspan and attacked Godzilla in the comic because it considered G a food source crazy . Bagorah had a powerful screeching, sonic boom it could launch from it's maw. thumbs up Bagorah |
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| Johnny Rod | Jun 6 2006, 09:07 PM Post #6 |
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I say they should make "Ultraman vs Godzilla", I'd even offer to direct it!!! That would be the best film in HISTORY!!!!!!! |
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| packmule | Jun 7 2006, 07:01 PM Post #7 |
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I agree that this matchup would be quite the spectacle, but because each character is so beloved among each's respective fans I doubt these two will ever square off in an official film. That said I could see someone(fans perhaps) making an unofficial film-there was a film of this type about Gamera made recently. The film, called Gamera 4, looked surprisingly decent. faster <!--emo&shifty eyes-->  <!--endemo-->
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| Johnny Rod | Jun 7 2006, 07:56 PM Post #8 |
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Well maybe Godzilla and Ultraman could have a short fight and later on they could ally to defeat the big monster. |
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| packmule | Jun 7 2006, 10:21 PM Post #9 |
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Were they to make such a film this would also be how I'd like to see the film develop: Ultraman and Godzilla skirmish, then form an alliance(an uneasy one probably) to defeat another super-powerful beast. I would also favor a plot along these lines for a Godzilla Vs Gamera film, another cinema battle that will, regrettably, probably never make it(officially) to the big screen. confused |
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| Johnny Rod | Jun 8 2006, 07:12 AM Post #10 |
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But wouln't it be great? Even better, what if Gozilla, Ultraman and Gamera were to team up? The main heroes of 3 rival companies!!! Now that would be the greatest film ever!!! rockin |
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| packmule | Jun 8 2006, 07:09 PM Post #11 |
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Unfortunately the companies that own the rights to these characters, Toho(Godzilla), Kadokawa(Gamera), and Tsubaraya(Ultraman), do not, I think, look at these cinema scenarios as you, I and many other fans do. cheeky sick smiley Honestly, I would prefer to see two films, one featuring Godzilla and Gamera, the other featuring Godzilla and Ultraman. I would not, however, object to a film in which all three were featured, but it would be, IMO, one hell of a challenge to figure out how to incorporate all three into a movie without completely sacrificing believability. Also, I would imagine the special effects costs for a film such as this would be astronomical. |
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| Johnny Rod | Jun 12 2006, 05:59 PM Post #12 |
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But then again packmule, if you consider the budget for "Godzilla: Final Wars" ($16 Million) then imagine what Toho would be able to do if they ever spent $250 Million, like America does with films such as "Spiderman 2" or "King Kong (2005)". |
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| packmule | Jun 12 2006, 06:50 PM Post #13 |
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Indeed. Imagine if Shusuke Kaneko had been given an enormous budget like what you mention for a movie like GMK(2001) or even one of the Gamera trilogy films. The result would have been, no doubt, a breathtaking spectacle of a kaiju film such as the world, east and west, has never seen. Honestly, I do not think Toho needs a gigantic budget to make good Godzilla(and other kaiju) films. Now an increased budget might be in order. The thing is, it's what the director does with the resources he has-consider the director of GFW(2004), who was given more creative control and a much greater amount of $ to spend-he appears to have used most of his budget on the sets(the differing locales of the movie), and on effects that were not related to the kaiju in the film, but rather the Matrix-style combat scenes, and other scenes like the motocycle chase, or the Gotengo vs the Xialian ship(the huge Star Wars like firefight). The effects for the monster battles look like they were given secondary priority in this movie, IMO ridiculous as this is supposed to be the last Godzilla movie before the Monster King goes into hiatus. The bottom line to me: it's not always how much $ you have but how you use it, in regards to making these films. 
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| Thilian | Jul 8 2007, 09:58 AM Post #14 |
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I voted Godzilla vs New Monster (no aliens). This seems inevitable considering the new monsters revealed by Atari, but it's also what I'd like. Some of my least favorite Godzilla movies have had aliens involved. Godzilla: Final Wars and Godzilla vs King Ghidorah come to mind. This just brings in a bucketful of cheese that I don't much prefer. I have liked some; Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla and my first Godzilla movie, Invasion of the Astro-Monster. Godzilla 2000 owes its best parts to the Orga plot. But that didn't succeed in reviving Godzilla. And as for solo films, it seems like Toho's dried that concept up pretty clean. I just want original Earth monsters. And a good story. |
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| packmule | Jul 8 2007, 03:17 PM Post #15 |
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Indeed, nor did it help wash the considerable stink off the Godzilla franchise with the previous years Godzilla(1998), this film's rejection by fans as a Godzilla film reportedly playing a role in Toho expediting the return of "their" Godzilla back to the big screen in Godzilla 2000(1999). At this point I would be willing to wait an extra year or two(or three) if it meant Toho would produce a really great Godzilla film. |
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