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| packmule | Jul 26 2006, 09:47 PM Post #1 |
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Do you believe in ghosts? By ghosts I mean any kind of non-physical apparition capable of being seen by the naked eye, and/or capable of manifesting itself as a noise(creaking door or blast of cold air). Cast your vote and explain your vote. Feel free to ramble if necessary. All replies welcome. :) |
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| KaijuFanatic | Jul 27 2006, 09:01 AM Post #2 |
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I definitely believe in ghosts, as I've encountered a few as a kid. When I was 9, my Mom and Dad purchased this old general store in the village we lived in. There wasn't any real yard to speak of, but up back there was a small cemetery that housed the remains of a family that had been wiped out from illnesses. One night, my cousin was spending the night with us and my Dad was working, so it meant just my two younger brothers, my cousin, Mom and myself were alone in the house. The store was on the first floor and the upper two floors were our living quarters. Well, late that night, my cousin and I weer awakened by talking and a baby crying. The house was dark, so we didn't know what was going on. We both laid there under the blankets sobbing, almost too afraid to move when we suddenly jumped out of our bed and ran to my parent's bedroom. Mom wasn't overly pleased at having two sobbing girls land in her bed, but she got up and tried to explain that we were probably dreaming and we may have heard a cat howling......we both knew we hadn't been dreaming, but Mom fed us and sat with us for a while before tucking us back into bed. A year or so later, I once again was awakened by voices, but this time, it didn't scare me, so I got out of bed and at the head of the stairs was a man and a woman kind of looking down the steps towards what was our kitchen. I thought the woman was my Mom and the man was her brother, my Uncle. I asked what was the matter and they turned and gently told me to go back to bed. I thought my 'Uncle' was dressed a little odd, one of those shirts that had slightly 'puffy' sleeves and tied at the neck, but I did as I was told and went to bed. The next morning, I asked my Mom why my Uncle was there the night before and she said he hadn't been there, I must have been dreaming, but I knew I had been awake, as I could see the lights on in the kitchen and the TV was running. Several years after my parents divorced, they sold the store to a family. The family's oldest daughter had two young sons and one evening she was bathing the boys when one of the boys asked who the little girl was....she turned and standing in the hall was a very young girl....they had no daughter and when the woman went out into the hall, the girl had disappeared. Those have been my only two experiences with 'ghosts', but I feel very strongly that I was hearing and later seeing members of the family that had died where our home had been built. I've never encountered anything like that since, but as much as anyone might try to convince me that it was nothing more than dreams, I don't believe it, I think I truly saw ghosts. |
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| packmule | Jul 27 2006, 07:05 PM Post #3 |
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Some interesting accounts Kimi. I voted "I'm not sure" because...well, I'm not sure whether to believe in ghosts, or not. I have always been(and will always be) a person who believes in what I can see, feel, and/or touch. The only exception to this I have ever allowed myself is my belief in God...or something that awaits us in the afterlife. Believe me when I tell you that I am not an atheist-I believe in something, that there is something waiting for us, I'm just not sure what it is. It is something that I have struggled with all of my life. Because there have been so many people who have claimed to have seen things the same or similar to what you described in your post I allow that there is probably something to it. It cannot be explained away as exaggerations, lies, or other various misinterpretations from drunkards, crackpots, or just those people wanting to draw attention to themselves. Certainly there are these kinds but it seems that the vast majority of people claiming to have seen ghosts are sober and lucid. For that reason I believe there may be something to it. That said I just don't believe I will ever be truly convinced unless the hot-dog eating Slimer(from "Ghostbusters") or Casper comes up to me at night and taps me on the shoulder. 
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| gojira2 | Jul 29 2006, 03:24 PM Post #4 |
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I do. A couple nights ago I felt a strange presence in my room and I thought it was my Grandfathers spirit. I'm not sure what it really was but I am convinced that ghosts are real now. |
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| Ro-Dan | Jul 29 2006, 03:54 PM Post #5 |
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In broad daylight I don't believe in ghosts. But at night, I'm a firm believer. ;) |
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| packmule | Jul 30 2006, 01:32 AM Post #6 |
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Thread drift: howdy partner! How have you been? How's your summer so far? Let everyone around here know how you've been if you want. :) Topic: Though I am still something of a skeptic when it comes to ghosts I believe there may be something to it. Anyone here care to comment on mediums, i.e. people who supposedly have the ability to "feel" or other wise communicate in some fashion with the deceased? If "mediums" are actually communicating with the dead then wouldn't they in essence be talking with ghosts? eyebrow |
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| KaijuFanatic | Jul 31 2006, 12:08 AM Post #7 |
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The two personal experiences I mentioned were my only 'meetings' with ghosts and that was more than enough for me! I never felt threatened or anything, but I didn't like how I felt with the 'sounds' at all!  I lost my one Grandmother 12 years ago....she and I were extremely close and there isn't a day that goes by that I don't stop and think about her, miss her and wish I could sit and talk with her, again, but I've never 'seen' her, since her passing. I have had a few dreams where Grandma is alive and well and I always awaken feeling quite happy. My Mom told me that she feels it's Grandma's way of letting me know she's OK and happy with where she is. I find that comforting in some odd way. :) As for mediums, the jury is still out on that area for me. I don't think I;d want that 'gift', if it is possible to 'talk' with those who have passed on! I wouldn't want to be able to see or communicate with folks in that way, too much.....uneasiness for my liking. |
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| packmule | Jul 31 2006, 07:24 PM Post #8 |
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Please accept my belated condolences on the loss of your grandmother. :( I have had many dreams in which my mother or father(but for some reason never both) are alive and well. I believe dreams are an echo of our subconscious mind, or maybe a manifestation of our repressed feelings and emotions regarding things and people in our lives. The dreams involving my mother are always positive. I was very close to my mom. The dreams involving my father are often negative, and are a replay of sorts of the oft strained relationship that my father and I had. It's an old father-son theme-father does not approve of son's career choices and never believes his son lives up to his potential. The son(in this case me) believes his father(my own) tries to impose his own desires and objectives on his son and will not respect his son's choices regarding career. Add to that that my father wanted me to have a wife and children-more grandchildren for him. I have never had a desire to get married, or have children. To this day I believe my father believed I would not marry/have a family just to spite him, and, though nothing could be further from the truth, I could never convince him that it was for other reasons. As he aged and acquired Alzheimer's our relationship became, sadly, practically nonexistent. Because my dreams involving my parents seem to parallel the very kind of relationship I had with both I believe that dreams are just a subconscious echo, and not really any kind of "message" from either about how they are doing. In saying that I am in no way implying that what you stated in your post is wrong or not true. I think dreams my be different things to different people-in your case one involving your grandma makes you a little happier, which is good. I don't put much stock in dreams-I never have. Because the ones I have are, at least in the last ten years, mostly bad or bizarre, I consider them an annoyance. Nothing more. |
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| Ghost the Bat | Aug 10 2006, 04:51 PM Post #9 |
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Yes I beleive in myself. I mean yeah, I beleive in ghosts...I swore ive seen one at my house... I don't wanna go into detail about it but it happened at like 2:30 am while I was playing some video game, I saw a somewhat bright light at the corner of my eye in my dineing room...when I looked at it, it was gone, kind of scared me a bit. |
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| packmule | Aug 12 2006, 11:10 AM Post #10 |
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Mr Green That is an unusual thing to happen Ghost, no doubt about it. I would talk about my own encounters with ghosts, but I cannot because I have never had any incidents like this. I have known a few people who claimed to have seen some unusual things though. Example: though no longer a hobby for me I used to do quite a bit of trout fishing while I was in high school, college, and then up until about 1990. On one such trip, along the Chatooga River near Rome, Ga(about 70 miles north of Atlanta), a member of our group came hauling ass back to our camp claiming to have seen an "ape-thing". He also referred to it as an "ape-looking monster". He was not drunk, and his hysterics were genuine. Me and the other guys blew it off as bullsh*t, until that same night, when we heard some noises coming from the nearby woods. Let me tell you I am familiar with just about every noise an animal living in these woods could make, large and small. The sounds we heard sounded almost like a wolf howling. Almost. They also had a distinctly pig-like quality to them. We all became creeped out by the "howling" we heard. Later, after one in the group claimed to have heard rustling in a woodline about 50 feet away, we all packed up, got in our vehicles, and got the hell out of there. I never saw anything, but I do remember those sounds I heard. I wonder, even now, what made them. shocked smiley |
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| packmule | Apr 8 2007, 10:33 AM Post #11 |
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Sometimes, in my fondness for Godzilla and other giant cinematic monsters, regarding the movies they starred in and discussion about them, I forget that throughout the history of our great planet there have been many species of animal that might qualify as "monster" as well, many of them attaining scary physical proportions while they existed on the Earth. This thread is for the discussion of all of nature's mysterious and/or giant beasts, extinct, alive, or somewhere in between, as well as other various natural phenomena of our planet. All replies welcome. Thread starter: Carcharadon Megalodon, a prehistoric shark, lived in various oceans of the world somewhere between 1.5 million to 2 million years ago. Considered by many biologists to be the ancestor of the Great White shark (Carcharadon Carcharis), the Megalodon, or "Meg", its' common nickname among scientists, was a behemoth in every sense of the word. It's size ranged from 40-52 feet in length and it weighed anywhere from 20-30 tons, feeding on whales, giant squid, and other large fish, including sharks. Rogue specimens of Megalodon reached 60-70 feet in length, and tipped the scales at 40 tons. Fossilized teeth,vertebrae and jaw bones of this enormous predatory marine animal have been found in great quantity throughout seabeds the world over. Though they are generally considered an extinct species, there are some in the scientific community who believe these giant sharks may still be around, albeit in greatly reduced numbers, living in deep depths in more inaccessible parts of our oceans. Click the thumbnails to get an idea of what this monster might have looked like, and a good idea as to it's size:  ...
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| TrentonFella | Apr 8 2007, 11:56 AM Post #12 |
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Speaking of Megs...have you every see the movies about these sharks on Sci-fi? Cheesy movies but they did a decent job at showing how massive these sharks were believed to be. |
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| packmule | Apr 8 2007, 01:35 PM Post #13 |
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I have seen them. In fact, I have two in my DVD collection: Megalodon. a typical Sci-Fi Channel "straight to video" type film, with average acting and all-CGI 60' shark, and the CGI was only, IMO, average. Still, it was worth a look. The other DVD I have is Shark Attack 3: Megalodon, a marginally better(IMO) film-the acting isn't quite as stale as the other one I mentioned. Both are worth a look on television, if you can catch them-as for buying the DVDs of them, maybe if they are discounted, say well under $10. ;) I also have several books written by Steve Alten: Meg, The Trench, and Meg: Primal Waters are three books I have by this author that feature these monster-sized sharks. They are great reads. There is a movie in the works, Trent, tentatively scheduled for release in 2008, called Meg, and based on Steve Alten's book of the same title. The last update I saw about this movie stated that Jan DeBont was directing. eyebrow Here's Steve Alten's website: Steve Alten.com Image-We're gonna need a bigger boat: in this case a battleship might be in order, to deal with the sixty foot long, thirty ton "Meg" in this pic, casually eating a powerboat and it's unfortunate occupant-from Shark Attack 3: Megalodon(2002) 
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| TrentonFella | Apr 10 2007, 12:39 AM Post #14 |
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I have seen both movies on Sci-Fi but I have seen Shark Attack 3: Megalodon more often, in fact the screen cap you have posted is the scene I remember the most from the movie lol But I have never read any books or actually articles on Megs, maybe I will when I finish with school in a few weeks. |
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| packmule | Apr 10 2007, 06:53 AM Post #15 |
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I believe you would like many of Steve Alten's books. They are a good blend of action, suspense, and the periodic tensions that happen in human relationships. My personal favorite is Meg, but I have enjoyed reading all of them. Any of them can be purchased online or at retailers like Barnes And Noble. :) Click the link for an article, from 2002, about a strange, and as yet unidentified deep sea audio sound picked up by American underwater detection devices:"Bloop". As a former Navy officer I can tell you Trent that in my occasional conversations with submarine officers, over beer and drinks at the Officer's Club on the Charleston(SC) naval base, these guys would tell me stories about things their sub's sonars would pick up-a lot of them were sounds like the one mentioned in this CNN article: they were weird, unidentifiable...and really big.
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