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Moral Absolutism
Topic Started: Sep 21 2008, 09:42 PM (207 Views)
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Do you believe in moral absolutism?

For those of you who don't know, moral absolutism is the belief in an absolute right and wrong no matter the circumstances.

I personally don't believe in it, though I do believe in what I like to call moral majority; the more people believe something is wrong, the more wrong it becomes.
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Sep 21 2008, 09:42 PM
Do you believe in moral absolutism?

Based on your explanation of what this term means my answer would be "no".

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I say no also, with a few exceptions. One of thoes exceptions are the ten commandments except killing to protect yourself and your country.
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Sep 24 2008, 05:13 PM
I say no also, with a few exceptions. One of those exceptions are the ten commandments except killing to protect yourself and your country
Do you think it's fair to say that some people, knowing you make those "few exceptions", might think you a non believer in this "moral absolutism"?

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^I wouldn't care if they think of me either way. Which ever siuts them. I have given up getting upset about what people think of me negativley along time ago. If they think of me as negative on this subject, which would be to most people's who I know minds yes, then go ahead. If they say no, good for you.

I would describe myself that yes, I do belive. There are just some circumstances. I am never absolute on anything. Heck, it is bad enough I am struggling to decide which movie that I am going to be collecting merchandise for since I am almost done with G2KUSA.
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If there is such a thing as morality at all, then I would believe there are moral absolutes.
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Sep 25 2008, 11:24 PM
If there is such a thing as morality at all
That's interesting that you mention that. I've seen many a person post at message boards that they don't believe morality exists. Rather than debate whether it does or not(which we can do later tongue-1 ) why not think about this: assuming morality exists then who "created" morality?

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Sep 26 2008, 10:04 PM
crowmagnumman
Sep 25 2008, 11:24 PM
If there is such a thing as morality at all
That's interesting that you mention that. I've seen many a person post at message boards that they don't believe morality exists. Rather than debate whether it does or not(which we can do later tongue-1 ) why not think about this: assuming morality exists then who "created" morality?
Well. I've always thought that the only reason morality could exist is if a God created it. Morality would have to come from some sort of spiritual significance to each life. If there is no God, then each life has no more significance than any other animal. It's survival of the fittest. So despite the fact that I'm not sure whether God exists or not, I tend to hope that he does, just because I want to believe that morality exists.

That's just my view of it anyway. I'm sure there are many ways of looking at this.
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Sep 30 2008, 05:44 PM
So despite the fact that I'm not sure whether God exists or not, I tend to hope that he does, just because I want to believe that morality exists

Some thread drift here: what have you done, Crow, about your indecision as to whether you believe God exists or not? I ask because I haven't done much of anything to try and convince myself, and haven't for many years. I've read a few online articles and spoken with both atheists and Christians alike. After awhile it all begins to sound redundant to me. confuzed

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Sep 30 2008, 05:44 PM
Well. I've always thought that the only reason morality could exist is if a God created it. Morality would have to come from some sort of spiritual significance to each life. If there is no God, then each life has no more significance than any other animal. It's survival of the fittest. So despite the fact that I'm not sure whether God exists or not, I tend to hope that he does, just because I want to believe that morality exists.

That's just my view of it anyway. I'm sure there are many ways of looking at this.
I disagree. I believe it's a built-in thing; one to help humans, a social animal, survive by aiding them in upholding a society with the rules that must come with.

I do believe it's flexible, though.
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KexMex
Oct 2 2008, 02:57 AM
I believe it's a built-in thing; one to help humans, a social animal, survive by aiding them in upholding a society with the rules that must come with

You describe humans as being "social" animals but you have also described yourself as "socially incompetent". Assuming there are more people with this condition, which no doubt there are, where do they fit in where "moral absolutism" is concerned?

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Sep 30 2008, 05:44 PM
So despite the fact that I'm not sure whether God exists or not, I tend to hope that he does, just because I want to believe that morality exists

Some thread drift here: what have you done, Crow, about your indecision as to whether you believe God exists or not? I ask because I haven't done much of anything to try and convince myself, and haven't for many years. I've read a few online articles and spoken with both atheists and Christians alike. After awhile it all begins to sound redundant to me. confuzed
I'm still pretty much in the same place as before. Stuck on the fence between two sides. I must subconsciously believe in a Creator God, though, or at least have hope about the existence of one. I think it's the one thing that would give life meaning.

Don't meant to sound too down-in-the-dumps, though. Mr. Smiles Gotta keep that optimism going.
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Oct 11 2008, 08:19 AM
You describe humans as being "social" animals but you have also described yourself as "socially incompetent". Assuming there are more people with this condition, which no doubt there are, where do they fit in where "moral absolutism" is concerned?
People like me tend to have difficulty understanding or conforming with basic social rules, but we tend to have a rough understanding of what one should or shouldn't do.
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Kex, absolutism could also apply equally to immorality as well, wouldn't you agree?

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Moral absolutism would define what is "morally right" and "morally incorrect", so I would assume immorality would fall under the second category..
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