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The official SCREAM movie thread; Discussion of the various "Scream" horror films
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Well, it is that time of year again. Some like saying thank you all day and some want to spend 25 days celebrating a dietys' birthday, but nothing is quite like celebrating scary shit. And out of the month of Halloween comes the first of two "official" topics I am making. The first one is on the scream series:

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Set to revive the slasher series into goodness in the 90's, a time where Freddy was dead and Jason was handed to Freddy's House, Wes Craven made a film where teenagers thought it was the ultimate horror film and older fans thought an over-hyped film that was not a masterpiece, let alone a classic. But the series has become a cult phenomenon. 3 films have been made, with an announced 2 more coming on the way in 2010 and 2012.

The story fallows a girl named Sindy, who mother was killed and has for almost half a decade has been haunted by many killers all wearing a "Ghost Face" mask.

The film did what it set out to do and reestablish dominance in the box office for the slasher genre and has since had classic spoofs like "Shriek if you know what I did Last friday the 13" (you thought GMK was tough!) and "Scary Movie" (Wazz Up!) including a cameo in Robot Chicken.

So, what do you have to say about this movie series that have become as recognizable as Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, and even the crap fest Friday the 13?
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So, what do you have to say about this movie series that have become as recognizable as Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, and even the crap fest Friday the 13?
That I do not believe that Friday The 13th(1980) was a "crap fest". I will admit that later installments in the "Friday The 13th" series were subpar but IMO the first three films in this series are fairly good. The first one helped establish the "slasher" horror genre. Considering director Sean Cunningham's low budget for the initial "Friday" film I thought he did a great job making an entertaining film without a whole lot of money to work with.

As to Scream(1996) I liked it okay. I have only seen the first "Scream" film. I have not seen any of it's sequels. And the lead female character's name was "Sidney"(Prescott), played by Canadian born actress(and hottie tongue-1 ) Neve Campbell.

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I've never seen Scream, but I always got the impression from the trailer that it was sort of a satire of slasher flicks, while simultaneously being a slasher flick. It looks pretty decent, but derivative of older slashers like Halloween.
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I've never seen Scream, but I always got the impression from the trailer that it was sort of a satire of slasher flicks, while simultaneously being a slasher flick
There are numerous homages to older "slasher" horror films in Scream, no doubt because of Wes Craven's respect for these movies. While there are, I think, satirical elements to Scream you better believe there's still plenty of blood, scary scenes and over the top violence(by the killer) which you would fully expect from any Wes Craven directed film. winky
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It looks like fun anyway. Mr. Smiles Maybe I'll watch it this Halloween.
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plenty of blood, scary scenes and over the top violence(by the killer) which you would fully expect from any Wes Craven directed film.
None of that is in swamp thing or Music of the Heart.

But in all seriousness, the whole thing about mentioning other slasher films, prominently Halloween, is a good thing. Plus, the murder of Drew Berrymore at the begining is a classic example of suspence building and one of the numerous refrences to Nightmare On Elm Street, Wes's proudest creation, in the film.
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Part two I have seen, but it is a verry forgettable film. But I do remember the begining with the movie theater killings...
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Here's a question for you, G2K: who was hotter in these movies? Courteney Cox or Neve Campbell? tongue-2
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Neve Campbell... She Canadian like Pam Anderson! :)
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A fourth "Scream" film may, or may not get made, depending on who you believe these days. Here's the latest update: http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_13792.html
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I just watched the first Scream movie. I thought it was pretty good.
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^Good. I hope you will review it soon...
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^Good. I hope you will review it soon...
I'm not very good at writing longer reviews, but I'll do my best.

The film opened strong. That's a classic opening scene right there. It builds really well and ends with a shocking conclusion. Right from the start I took note of Marco Beltrami's score. It's no masterpiece, but it's a good bombastic and eerie score. You don't get a lot of scores of this style anymore, so it was refreshing to hear one of that orchestral intensity.

The trailer for the film gave the impression that the film was sort of a satire of the slasher genre. It is that, for sure, but I was really surprised at how unflinching the film was. The opening scene is extremely brutal. In this opening scene Scream proves that it is no half-baked spoof. Scream is an intense ride from start to finish.

The script is very well-crafted. It works as a loving tribute to the slasher genre and manages to maintain an impressive level of suspense and paranoia throughout. I found myself constantly second-guessing myself over the identity of the killer right up to the last moment. When the killer's identity is finally revealed, it was a genuine shock and surprise.

I can definitely see why this film has become a modern classic. It's a tightly-plotted and highly entertaining film. There are plenty of shocking deaths, suspense, and actual tension. There is a serious lack of actual tension in today's films. So seeing Scream was a very refreshing experience in a way.
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Good. And I hope you know Wes Craven was the one who directed the film.
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Good. And I hope you know Wes Craven was the one who directed the film.
Oh yes. That's one of the reasons I wanted to watch it. Wes Craven is a big name in horror, so I wanted to see why.
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I'm not very good at writing longer reviews, but I'll do my best.

The film opened strong. That's a classic opening scene right there. It builds really well and ends with a shocking conclusion. Right from the start I took note of Marco Beltrami's score. It's no masterpiece, but it's a good bombastic and eerie score. You don't get a lot of scores of this style anymore, so it was refreshing to hear one of that orchestral intensity.

The trailer for the film gave the impression that the film was sort of a satire of the slasher genre. It is that, for sure, but I was really surprised at how unflinching the film was. The opening scene is extremely brutal. In this opening scene Scream proves that it is no half-baked spoof. Scream is an intense ride from start to finish.

The script is very well-crafted. It works as a loving tribute to the slasher genre and manages to maintain an impressive level of suspense and paranoia throughout. I found myself constantly second-guessing myself over the identity of the killer right up to the last moment. When the killer's identity is finally revealed, it was a genuine shock and surprise.

I can definitely see why this film has become a modern classic. It's a tightly-plotted and highly entertaining film. There are plenty of shocking deaths, suspense, and actual tension. There is a serious lack of actual tension in today's films. So seeing Scream was a very refreshing experience in a way.


Good review Crowmagnumman. thumbz up

I would like to see a review of A Nightmare On Elm Street from you, when you watch the film. topper
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Good review Crowmagnumman. thumbz up

I would like to see a review of A Nightmare On Elm Street from you, when you watch the film. topper
Thanks. I'll be sure to write one as soon as I get to it. The next one I watch will probably be Scream 2.
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K I watched Scream 2. I hate to say it, but this one just felt off. It's overly long and convoluted. They throw in random characters that have no purpose. Everyone feels disposable. The first one was pretty serious and intensely gripping, but this one feels more like a cheap knock-off. It doesn't take itself seriously enough and the ending drags on far too long. I don't know for sure why I didn't like it. I just didn't really get it. It didn't even feel like a movie. I didn't believe anything that was happening. The ending had no resonance whatsoever. The whole thing was just an excuse to see people getting stabbed. The first one was a very effective horror film. I don't know exactly why this one fell so flat.
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Here's an update on the supposed "reboot" of the "Scream" film franchise: Wes Craven is reportedly willing to direct a fourth Scream film...provided his compensation is better. The link: http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_14366.html
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Is a new trilogy of "Scream" films on the way?
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Well, if anybody can resurrect the slasher genre, it's Wes Craven. Maybe this new Scream trilogy will do the trick. I saw the first two Screams, but I still need to see the third. I'm probably going to watch it very soon here.
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Scream 3 (2000) - 7/10.

Has most of the same problems the second one had.

- Too silly and unbelievable. Doesn't take itself seriously enough.
- Too long.
- Bad dialog.
- Poor character development.

But there were a few things I liked better about it. The ending was more satisfying. I thought Scream 2's ending was pretty lame. Lance Henriksen is in it. Even if his role sucks, at least he's in it. There are some inspired scenes, like the one with the fax machine and the gas explosion. Great scene. I liked that they brought back Dewey again. And I like Neve Campbell as Sid. She's a good protagonist.

And overall it's just a bit more entertaining than the second one. It's still kind of lame compared to the first one. But I think I'd still enjoy both Scream sequels more than most slasher movies. They're kind of like event films.

I hope they don't kill off Sid, Dewey, or Gail in Scream 4, but I wouldn't mind seeing them in the film in some capacity. I also think it would be good to introduce a new set of people to star in a new trilogy.
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Looks like the "Scream" film franchise may get a reboot after all: http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/31981/a-reboot-scream-about

Another link of interest: http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_15419.html
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Craven, please do this good! I did not buy a cool Ghostface costume for nothing...
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I hope they don't kill off the three surviving characters from the original films. That would really piss me off. They could be involved some way but center most of the action around new characters so that the original three would get to live in peace.

The idea of a new Scream trilogy might seem a bit ludicrous at first, but Wes Craven is directing and Kevin Williamson is writing it, so I could not be more excited.
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Looks like both David Arquette and Courteney Cox will be in the fourth 'Scream" film: http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_15831.html
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I'm glad they're returning, but it sucks that Neve Campbell doesn't want to return. She's in The Philanthropist right now. It's a good show, but I'm sure she could make time for the movie.
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I'm glad they're returning, but it sucks that Neve Campbell doesn't want to return
If you believe this update Neve Campbell is waiting for the "right" offer, regarding $, before returning to the "Scream" franchise: http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/32870/scream-4-update
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