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| Topic Started: Jan 17 2009, 07:04 PM (560 Views) | |
| packmule | Jan 17 2009, 07:04 PM Post #1 |
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I didn't vote for Barack Obama back in November in the general elections here in the United States. Obama strikes me as intelligent and articulate. He's well dressed and a handsome looking man who is also husband to an attractive wife and father to two beautiful children. I also believe he's about as qualified to be President Of The United States as your average every day tree stump. This topic thread will serve as a periodic forum for me to level some of my skewered, and non-skewered opinions on Barack Obama and also on his political party, the Democrats. I welcome any and all replies to this topic thread. There isn't very much by way of politically themed diatribe at this message board and there may not be any more of it simply because of the creation of this topic thread. Either way I'm not going to be silent about my disdain for Democrats and Obama anymore.  Thread starter: -the econonomic stimulus package put together by the Democrats now stands at a staggering $825 billion, and is a combination of tax credits for businesses and individuals as well as funds earmarked for large infrastructure projects among the various states, as well as other incentives designed to aid homeowners who are currently on the brink of losing their homes to foreclosure. What got my immediate interest was the tax cuts aimed at individuals and married couples. The Democrat's stimulus plan would offer a $500 tax break to a single working individual making under $75,000 a year, which I do. That translates to less than $10 more on my paycheck a week. Barack Obama's campaign was heavily based on his promise to help Americans keep more of their money. $10 more a week.... Does Obama really think that another $9.60 on my paycheck every week will help me save more money, upgrade to a decent apartment, help me afford medical insurance that actually has benefits like prescription drug discounts and lower doctor's office co-pays? If Obama does then I would submit this man also believes in the tooth fairy, Santa Clause and flying pigs. The article link: http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/16/news/economy/taxprovs_HouseDem/index.htm?cnn=yes From the article:
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| Ghost the Bat | Jan 25 2009, 08:59 PM Post #2 |
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I believe the most interesting aspect of the Obama Presidency is how interested the Japanese nation is, as a whole, with Obama and his speeches. To tell the truth I did not vote for the man myself either, and from what I hear Obama is changing some things for the military, which I am currently contracted to, for the worse. I mean I've been hearing that Obama is wanting to shut down the Guantanamo Bay base, which will most likely happen. But where will all of those prisoners, that are at Guantanamo, go? |
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| crowmagnumman | Jan 25 2009, 09:31 PM Post #3 |
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I liked both Obama and McCain, as people. But I've been very conflicted on how good I think either of them would be as a president. I'm the same way with Bush. I like the guy, but I want him far away from the White House. I never liked McCain's foreign policy. It seemed too heavy-handed. And I felt that electing him could just embroil us in another conflict, like Iran. Relations with the rest of the world have been pretty shaky lately. And I think McCain would have just made that situation worse.
Just borrowing your words because I wanted to say something similar. I agree with the above, but I was also never quite sure he was what America needed. Overall, I liked his attitude on foreign policy. He seemed to understand that the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan was a mess, and that we needed to work on getting our people out of there. And I liked that he was so open to negotiation, even with our enemies. I can't stand the "America doesn't negotiate with terrorists policy." That's just pride talking. If you don't take a diplomatic stance, then you're just going to get more people killed than have to be. So I think that electing Obama, if anything, was at least a good PR move. The rest of the world is ecstatic over Obama. It's as if suddenly America is no longer the bad guy, and everybody loves again for electing Obama. This is a good thing, but it doesn't solve all our problems. Obama still needs to solve the economic crisis, among other things. I preferred Obama to McCain, but I don't exactly agree with Obama's stance on abortion. He seems to be more in favor of it than I'd like. I actually voted for Ron Paul, because I believe he's the most moral and honest man we could have elected. He wasn't afraid to alienate himself from the rest of the Republican party by speaking his mind. He's a firm believer in the Constitution. I share his beliefs in this area. I think the Constitution is just as relevant and important as it always was. Civil rights aren't something I take lightly. I think they're what being American is all about. I also think Ron Paul was the best man to save the economy. I've listened to the guy a lot, and he really knows his stuff. He understands the massive problems with the Federal Reserve and the IRS better than I ever will. I was pretty inspired by Ron Paul's speeches. More than any other candidate, he understood that America was in extremely rough shape. And unlike other candidates, he had a very firm and concrete plan on how he was going to fix it. I don't know for sure if he would have succeeded, but I admire his principals and his intellect. He might not have been as well-received by the rest of the world, but I think he would have been very good for America's own well-being. And he still planned on keeping trade and good relations open with as many countries as possible. He just wanted to put America first. And as selfish as that sounds, I agree with it. It's unconstitutional for us to think that we can go around policing the world and enforcing our rule, especially where we're not wanted. |
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| packmule | Jan 26 2009, 12:22 AM Post #4 |
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I've seen lots of guys like Barack Obama enter the Oval Office ready to charge into battle in order to effect their changes to help their country. Most of them get little done because they clash with members of Congress who are also members of the opposite political party to their own. Obama's going to find out in a hurry that the Republicans are going to make him fight for every inch.
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| crowmagnumman | Jan 26 2009, 02:56 AM Post #5 |
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That's true. People underestimate the amount of power Congress has. I often overlook it myself. |
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| packmule | Jan 26 2009, 08:43 PM Post #6 |
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Websites are already appearing on the internet to keep tabs on how many campaign promises President Barack Obama keeps...and how many he does not: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl228
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| crowmagnumman | Jan 26 2009, 11:30 PM Post #7 |
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That's good. They did the same thing with Bush I think. But Obama is probably under a lot more scrutiny. |
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| packmule | Jan 28 2009, 05:34 PM Post #8 |
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President Obama continues to push his economic stimulus bill: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_economy |
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| crowmagnumman | Jan 28 2009, 06:26 PM Post #9 |
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Wow. That's a lot of money. So it's focused more on jobless benefits than creating jobs. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. |
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| packmule | Jan 28 2009, 06:44 PM Post #10 |
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A friend of mine, an even more hard core Republican than I am, practically foams at the mouth at the mention of Obama's economic stimulus plan. He believes the Republicans' disdain for this bill is justified. He argues that a Republican stimulus would focus more on the housing/mortgage crisis and creating jobs and that the Democratic plan(Obama's plan) is simply, in large part, a gigantic handout. We'll see.
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| crowmagnumman | Jan 28 2009, 08:15 PM Post #11 |
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Yep. All we can do. |
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| josh TX | Jan 29 2009, 05:00 AM Post #12 |
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I haven't been keeping up as much as I'd like with Obama's political agenda but what I have noticed, because it's been pushed in our face at every available outlet, is the bizzare amount of celebrities, actors, singers, and otherwise wealthy entertainers who have all pledged to align themselves with Obama. Many of these celebrities have spoken out in support of Obama but at this point all I can do is ask myself why?? Realistically the guy hasn't done anything yet, and on top of that why am I constantly seeing Bono or Beyonce Knowles talking about him on national television when they've never held a political position in their life? I believe America may be getting to a point where we would rather just agree with whatever political opinion our favorite celebrity believes as opposed to thinking for ourselves. |
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| crowmagnumman | Jan 30 2009, 12:19 AM Post #13 |
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I think Obama is more of a celebrity than any other president in history. And that's why he won. That's what the presidential election has come down to. A popularity contest. Obama is the young, hip, flashy guy. The people were afraid to elect another aging White man into office. So they went in the opposite direction. Change just for the sake of change. I'm not against a black president, but I don't believe Americans voted him into office primarily because of his principles and his policies. |
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| Russzilla | Jan 30 2009, 12:52 AM Post #14 |
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I'll make this short and to the point. As an african american, i'm very proud to see Obama as our new President. It's something that I thought I would not see in my lifetime. Why was Obama elected? 1) He's much better than the person who just left. 2) Most of this country did not want crusty old McCain in the Oval Office. 3) This country was just ready for a change. And it just shows just how far this country has come. Look, Obama is not gonna do this overnight. It's gonna take awhile to fix this mess that Bush has put this country in. Most everyone I talk to wishes him luck and hopes that he does a good job. And i'm one of them. As I tell my employees at work, "Do you smell what Barack is cookin?"
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| packmule | Jan 30 2009, 08:47 AM Post #15 |
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As Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson might react:  If President Obama is "cookin" then I hope the meal will be ready in the not too distant future. If you believe this article, it will be ready to serve in 2-3 years: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28917922 |
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