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Samurai and martial arts films; Discussion of samurai/martial arts cinema
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If anyone knows something about the Kung-Fu genre of China' film industry, it is officialy screwed up. More titles are in public domain thn anything and if you watch certaint films you get bad prints and no traces of special features or any backround on half of the movies. I am talking of films like Dragon Lee vs. The Five Brothers or Clash of the Iron Fists. But one film in the lte 90's came out of the kung fu hell hole and actualy gained a reputation that would be almost equal to films like "Enter the Dragon", "36 Chambers of Shaolin", "Drunken Master", or even the masterfull "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" and that was the seuel to the already popular "One Armed Boxer", "Master of the Flying Guillotine", made by Jimmy Wang Yu.
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Plot: During the last dynasty of China, the Manchu-Ching Dynasty, Ming Revolutionary boxers were a problem. But one of them, who was the infamous one armed boxer, killed two deciples of China's best user of a dreaded weapon, the flying Guillotine. So the revenge is on as China gets rocked, especialy when the master gets some help from martial arts masters from other countries...

The reason this film is so respected is that this is counted as the best film done by Jimmy Wang Yu, who is a popular martial arts film maker. And since it's release, it was plaged by a normal curse from Kung Fu Cinema hell: public domain. This was because of legal issues with the films soundtrack, with all music actualy being used illegaly. But even under public domain the film was not seen that often since they though Megalon would be better to release. But in 2000, Pathfinder pictures found the film and released it onto DVD. But when the 20th annerversary DVD release came along, new 35mm prints were found of american and chinese versions of the film and something rare abong Jimmy Wang Yu - special features. Normaly, it would only have an audio commentary and a trailer. But this film was a special case. And this film gained quick cult success in America, including Quientin Tarantino using the film in his novel about true love in screenplay format and a tribute in Kill Bill Vol. 1.

I personaly love this film. Though it has not come on TV for a long time. Kick Ass soundtrack, whic has been paid for by Pathfinder and a great cult fallowing, this film is famous and is a favorite, and is actualy criticaly good. What do you think of this film?
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I have never seen this film. I do like martial arts movies so I will try to find reviews and a trailer for this one. Could be a DVD purchase by the end of the year.

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They whole film is on youtube, just to let you guys know
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Sep 11 2008, 02:14 PM
They whole film is on youtube, just to let you guys know
I'd still rather watch it on DVD. tongue-1

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Ok, but do not expect good pic quality. Like I said, this film was in Kung-Fu Cinema hell for awhile. We got lucky a 2.35:1 non-anamorphic print was made, but because it was made of 10+ diffrent prints edited togeather, it is not going to look the best.

But I will say this: this film is in my top 5 kung Fu films - and I have seen alot.
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Sep 11 2008, 07:39 PM
But I will say this: this film is in my top 5 kung Fu films - and I have seen alot
Have you seen Bolo Yeung in Chinese Hercules(1973)?

The trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B292wwnyCqs

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Sep 11 2008, 07:39 PM
But I will say this: this film is in my top 5 kung Fu films - and I have seen alot
Have you seen Bolo Yeung in Chinese Hercules(1973)?

The trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B292wwnyCqs
Hey! That's Bolo from Enter the Dragon. And I thought he was just a good paid extra.

But that trailer is not impressive. To me, it screamed Chuck Noriss. Master of the Flying Guillotine is better looking:
Here is the first part of the film. Watch this please, because on the soundtrack it has the collest kung fu music theme:


Here is the international trailer:

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Originally meant to be any non-kaiju Japanese live action films, list all samurai/ninja/Japanese martial arts film you have seen.

Toho:
Rashomon-how did a samurai with a Korean sword ruin a good marriage? In five diffrent ways at the same time. AKA: people who are sitting under the Rashomon gate talk about all of a sad tale that no one knows the truth to...

Kiru-a traveling yakuza and farmer get mixed up in a clan feud

Azumi-a female assasin goes out to kill waring shoguns in this verry exaggerated lick. Ryuhei Kitamura directing.

Onmyoji-a story of Abe No Seimei battling another onmyoji for the protection of Edo(tokiyo) in feudal Japan

Onmyoji 2-Abe No Seimei is battling the Yamato gods to save Edo from revenge... Guest staring a kaiju cameo from Orochi the 8 headed Dragon

Yojimbo-a wondering samurai goes into a town which has many problems and fixes them through battles. Starring the legendary Toshiro Mifune. By Kurosawa...

Kwaidan-4 short films set in mysticism in feudal Japan

Returner-a girl goes to the past to protect the future

Seven Samurai-only film to compete with Gojira has Japan's "national anthem of Japan's cinema"

Toei
Karate Forever- Sonny Chiba is a failed street fighter who, living with orphaned thieving children, takes down a crime boss.

Shogun's Samurai- Sonny Chiba plays his most famous role as Jubei as he fights a Tokugawa's clan in terms of heritage.

Samurai Reincarnation-Again as Jubei, Sonny has to defeat a resurrected Christian samurai, now turned Satanic.

Kadowoka
Legend of the 8 Samurai - Starring Sonny Chiba, the Tokugawa clan tried to fullfill their wishes to rule Japan through Yokai and Onmyodo. But only the 8 samurai could stop them

Heaven and Earth-shot in Canada, this is just two samurai clans fighting with some romantic subplot. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

The Executioner-three assassins are hired to take down a cocaine agent. Comedy filled action adventure. Some nudity of Japanese, Caucasian, and Black women...

Daiei-
Zatoichi The Outlaw - regular Zatoichi film, just him killing a yakuza clan

Fight Zatoichi Fight- Can Zatoichi easily defeat 100 samurai set out by a yakuza clan?

Zatoichi's Revenge- read the title

Zatoichi and the Doomed Man - Zatoichi helps a man get freed from death sentrnce in jail

Zatoichi's Cane Sword - Upon finding out that his sword has a crack in it at the base, Zatoichi can only kill 5 more people before the blade breaks...

Zatoichi and the Chest of Gold- Zatoichi redeems a village of it's taxes upon getting
a chest of gold

Zatoichi Remake - Zatoichi helps a village out of the oppression of a Yakuza clan...

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Kunoichi, Lady Ninja-Jube is not portrayed by Chiba, but boobs galore in this samurai flic of entertainment . Strangely non-porno, but nudity nice but a non Sonny Chiba Jubei...

Kibikachi-a Yokai films about a werewolf residing in a town which is under attack by Yokai-hating Japanese government

Great Yokai War-a little boy leads the Yokai armies to defeat a man who turns Yokai into giant terminator like robots.

Versus-a prisoner tries to make it out of a forest alive, soon to realize that his destiny is to fight for the power of "the other side". Directed by Ryuhei Kitamura, this film shot him into international stardom and even got an extended version in 2003... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

High and Low-angry shoe makers kidnap their boss's son...
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Originally meant to be any non-kaiju Japanese live action films, list all samurai/ninja/Japanese martial arts film you have seen

1. Enter The Dragon(1973)
2. The Princess Blade(2003)
3. So Close(2002)
4. Black Mask(1996)
5. Naked Weapon(2002)
6. House Of Flying Daggers(2004)
7. Black Mask 2: City Of Masks(2002)
8. Hero(2002)

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How many of those are Japanese? I notice 4 of them
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How many of those are Japanese? I notice 4 of them
I'm not sure. They are the only Asian martial arts films, or Asian action action films with martial arts style fighting, That I have seen. winky

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I honestly don't feel like taking the time to list all I've seen, but here are a few of the older "standout" martial arts films I enjoy:

Last hurrah for Chivalry
Yojimbo
Rashomon
Enter The Dragon
The Magic Serpent
Seven Samurai
Shaolin Vs. Tai Chi
5 Deadly Venoms

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Nov 11 2008, 02:59 AM
The Magic Serpent


I've seen this one as well: a 1966 Toei produced film. I used to own it on VHS(and in widescreen), until I gave it away to a friend's nephew. Entertaining film. thumbz up

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Nov 12 2008, 12:50 AM
No mention of RAN?
Or a single LWAC movie?
I can see that my services are sorely needed here.

I will be back with a "must see" listing
I did my best Lone Wold and Cub San.
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Out of the ones I have seen, I only own Azumi, Versus, Legend of the 8 Samurai, and Samurai Reincarnation. Have you seen samurai reincarnation Lone Wolf?
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^My copy of Samurai Reincarnation came in a 3 disc martial arts bootleg set and Azumi was worth it!
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^I heard Azumi 2 was bad.
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^I actualy want to see them, but they don't come on IFC
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I bought yesterday Samurai 7, an anime adaptation of Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai. IT IS SO GOOD!
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Yep.

I still wish I had a decent DVD of Makai Tenshou AKA Samurai Reincarnation and Satomo Hakken Den AKA Legend of the Eight Samurai
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Ip Man:
A chinese movie made in 2008, it is based mainly on the life of Grandmaster Yip Man (Bruce Lee's master) before and during world war II when japan invaded. i won't give away any more of the story than that so if you ever get the chance watch it.

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Here's the list of Martial Arts movies I've seen:

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
House of Flying Daggers
Hero
The Myth
Enter the Dragon
Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story
Ip Man 2 & 3
Forbidden Warrior
Game of Death
Flying Swords of Dragons Gate
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@ wendybrad: have you seen any of the "Sister Street Fighter" films? The first one(released in 1974) starring Sonny Chiba and Etsuko "Sue" Shihomi is IMO the best of these.

I bought this DVD set featuring all of these movies two years ago from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/The-Sister-Street-Fighter-Collection/dp/B000GTJT1Q

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@ wendybrad: have you seen any of the "Sister Street Fighter" films? The first one(released in 1974) starring Sonny Chiba and Etsuko "Sue" Shihomi is IMO the best of these.

I bought this DVD set featuring all of these movies two years ago from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/The-Sister-Street-Fighter-Collection/dp/B000GTJT1Q
No I haven't seen them, but judging from the link you gave me they look very cool. I buy stuff off Amazon about once a year for Christmas.
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