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Legendary Pictures Godzilla film; Discussion of the Legendary Pictures G film in the works
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Well, I'm sure all Godzilla fans are wondering...
1. When will Godzilla return to the big screen?
2. When he does what kind of film will it be?

What do you think the Toho Motion Picture Company, that holds the rights to Godzilla, should do for the next Godzilla film? Cast your vote and explain your choice. All related discussion here as well, regarding any speculation about the next Godzilla film which, according to TOHO, will be released "around" the year 2013...

Thread(and poll) starter-Packmule's opinion: I initially considered a "Godzilla vs another monster" as the best scenario by which to successfully return the King Of The Monsters to the big screen. Having had more time to think about it, I now believe a stand-alone feature, with Godzilla as the only featured kaiju(like in Gojira or The Return Of Godzilla) is the best way to go. I believe TOHO has the best chance to "reinvent" Godzilla(perhaps) by isolating him as the only featured monster in the next G film-then build on that picture for the next. :)
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I agree that focusing on Godzilla alone would make for an interesting film. In some of the recent films, they've shown, 'flashbacks' to Godzilla's first attack on Tokyo, but using new footage and I really enjoyed what bits they did. I think if they concentrated on just Godzilla and perhaps a new story, it could lead to some very interesting sequels, so to speak.
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I went with the Godzilla vs a new monster (no aliens) option. It seems like forever that Godzilla has face a new threat without aliens being involved. As far as seeing Godzy face off with classic monster...I'd wait on that. There's no problem having them guest star (i.e. Angilas alongside Godzilla) but the threat should be a new one.
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I want the next Godzilla film to feature a new monster to fight, but yet, have it solo for half the movie.

For example: start it out kind of like how the original did, Godzilla is newly discovered and is the main threat for about half the film, leading it to beleive Godzilla is the only one Earth should be focusing on stoping, yet a new monster appears and causes havoc...something like that. I don't know, im not good at making up backstories for movies confused

I just don't want another Gojira or Godzilla 1984, those movies arew good enough the way they are, unless Toho can make a better story for a "Godzilla only" film, then it would be ok.

I just wouldn't mind if they started off a new series like the way they did with the Millenium series with Godzilla 2000.

It would be awesome if Godzilla could have a new Arch Nemesis as strong/cool as King Ghidorah, someone new that Godzilla can square off against more than once.
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It would be awesome if Godzilla could have a new Arch Nemesis as strong/cool as King Ghidorah, someone new that Godzilla can square off against more than once.

I like that idea as well...just not sure that TOHO should include this monster in the first "return" feature film of Godzilla. Are you at all familar with the Godzilla comics, Ghost? I'm not sure what issue it was, but Godzilla squared off against a trio of kaiju called the "War Monsters"-these monsters were all space monsters, and "trained" to fight, much like soldiers, or like fighting canines in illegal dogfights. I always thought this comic's storyline was very cool. Another comic book monster that I think might make a good adversary for Godzilla in the next series of films: Bagorah, the gigantic bat monster. This kaiju has an enormous wingspan and attacked Godzilla in the comic because it considered G a food source crazy . Bagorah had a powerful screeching, sonic boom it could launch from it's maw. thumbs up

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I say they should make "Ultraman vs Godzilla", I'd even offer to direct it!!!
That would be the best film in HISTORY!!!!!!!
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I say they should make "Ultraman vs Godzilla", I'd even offer to direct it!!!
That would be the best film in HISTORY!!!!!!!

I agree that this matchup would be quite the spectacle, but because each character is so beloved among each's respective fans I doubt these two will ever square off in an official film. That said I could see someone(fans perhaps) making an unofficial film-there was a film of this type about Gamera made recently. The film, called Gamera 4, looked surprisingly decent. faster <!--emo&shifty eyes-->Posted Image<!--endemo-->
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I say they should make "Ultraman vs Godzilla", I'd even offer to direct it!!!
That would be the best film in HISTORY!!!!!!!

I agree that this matchup would be quite the spectacle, but because each character is so beloved among each's respective fans I doubt these two will ever square off in an official film. That said I could see someone(fans perhaps) making an unofficial film-there was a film of this type about Gamera made recently. The film, called Gamera 4, looked surprisingly decent. faster <!--emo&shifty eyes-->Posted Image<!--endemo-->

Well maybe Godzilla and Ultraman could have a short fight and later on they could ally to defeat the big monster.
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Well maybe Godzilla and Ultraman could have a short fight and later on they could ally to defeat the big monster.

Were they to make such a film this would also be how I'd like to see the film develop: Ultraman and Godzilla skirmish, then form an alliance(an uneasy one probably) to defeat another super-powerful beast.

I would also favor a plot along these lines for a Godzilla Vs Gamera film, another cinema battle that will, regrettably, probably never make it(officially) to the big screen. confused
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But wouln't it be great?
Even better, what if Gozilla, Ultraman and Gamera were to team up?
The main heroes of 3 rival companies!!!
Now that would be the greatest film ever!!! rockin
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But wouln't it be great?
Even better, what if Gozilla, Ultraman and Gamera were to team up?
The main heroes of 3 rival companies!!!
Now that would be the greatest film ever!!! rockin

Unfortunately the companies that own the rights to these characters, Toho(Godzilla), Kadokawa(Gamera), and Tsubaraya(Ultraman), do not, I think, look at these cinema scenarios as you, I and many other fans do. cheeky sick smiley

Honestly, I would prefer to see two films, one featuring Godzilla and Gamera, the other featuring Godzilla and Ultraman. I would not, however, object to a film in which all three were featured, but it would be, IMO, one hell of a challenge to figure out how to incorporate all three into a movie without completely sacrificing believability. Also, I would imagine the special effects costs for a film such as this would be astronomical.
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Unfortunately the companies that own the rights to these characters, Toho(Godzilla), Kadokawa(Gamera), and Tsubaraya(Ultraman), do not, I think, look at these cinema scenarios as you, I and many other fans do.  cheeky sick smiley

Honestly, I would prefer to see two films, one featuring Godzilla and Gamera, the other featuring Godzilla and Ultraman. I would not, however, object to a film in which all three were featured, but it would be, IMO, one hell of a challenge to figure out how to incorporate all three into a movie without completely sacrificing believability. Also, I would imagine the special effects costs for a film such as this would be astronomical.

But then again packmule, if you consider the budget for "Godzilla: Final Wars" ($16 Million) then imagine what Toho would be able to do if they ever spent $250 Million, like America does with films such as "Spiderman 2" or "King Kong (2005)".
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... then imagine what Toho would be able to do if they ever spent $250 Million, like America does with films such as "Spiderman 2" or "King Kong (2005)".

Indeed. Imagine if Shusuke Kaneko had been given an enormous budget like what you mention for a movie like GMK(2001) or even one of the Gamera trilogy films. The result would have been, no doubt, a breathtaking spectacle of a kaiju film such as the world, east and west, has never seen. Honestly, I do not think Toho needs a gigantic budget to make good Godzilla(and other kaiju) films. Now an increased budget might be in order. The thing is, it's what the director does with the resources he has-consider the director of GFW(2004), who was given more creative control and a much greater amount of $ to spend-he appears to have used most of his budget on the sets(the differing locales of the movie), and on effects that were not related to the kaiju in the film, but rather the Matrix-style combat scenes, and other scenes like the motocycle chase, or the Gotengo vs the Xialian ship(the huge Star Wars like firefight). The effects for the monster battles look like they were given secondary priority in this movie, IMO ridiculous as this is supposed to be the last Godzilla movie before the Monster King goes into hiatus. The bottom line to me: it's not always how much $ you have but how you use it, in regards to making these films. shifty eyes
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This was posted at the ATARI "Godzilla" forums by forum member gvamp:
http://www.kernerresearch.com/godzilla3d.htm

It appears Yoshimitsu Banno, director of Godzilla Vs Hedorah(1971), has secured funding for this film. thumbs up
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This was posted at the ATARI "Godzilla" forums by forum member gvamp:
http://www.kernerresearch.com/godzilla3d.htm

It appears Yoshimitsu Banno, director of Godzilla Vs Hedorah(1971), has secured funding for this film. thumbs up

This should be an interesting endeavor to say the least, I'll be sure to keep my on this development. Mr Green
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It appears Yoshimitsu Banno, director of Godzilla Vs Hedorah(1971), has secured funding for this film.

Keith Aiken, site owner/operator of Sci-Fi Japan, pointed out, at the ATARI Godzilla forums, that "initial development funding", which is considerably less $ than for general funding, was secured for this project, which means that this film is far from a done deal. Here's his post from that site:

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"I've already put out requests to contacts in Japan and the US to see if there's anything more to report at this time.

One thing I have noticed on the various message boards is that many people think the announcement means that GODZILLA 3D got the funding to go into production and the movie will now get made. Kerner Productions only said they have provided "initial development funding", and that is not the same thing.

SciFi Japan's Robert Saint John posted the following on Monster Zero, and I think it gives a much more accurate idea of what has actually happened:



At this moment, in my opinion, this is no different than when Peter Anderson (a specialist in 3D cinema production) had material on a website in 2005 saying that he was involved in the project. And, hey, what do you know: Peter is now "Director of 3D Imaging" at Kerner. Development funding is not the same as full funding or a greenlight. Development funding is a little bit of money to continue creating conceptual artwork, further drafts of a script and maybe technology demos. With that, the producer can continue to go around and shop the project to get real funding. It's very much in Kerner's interest to put this "on their resume" so to speak, both to show that they have projects in the pipeline, and in the hope that the project gets funded and becomes a real paycheck for them.

I would argue that perhaps it's not as dead as we thought it was, but it still isn't alive. Best to wait for some news or announcement about the production getting real funding or being greenlit before getting too excited. Until then, it is not "a go".


So be optimistic, but don't assume this is anywhere near a done-deal yet.'


I will post any further updates to this project in this thread as they happen. :)
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This is one of those situations where we have a positive, but we can't say for sure whether or not the whole thing is secured. This is a good thing for Banno, but it's not for certain whether or not more is ready to surface.
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I voted Godzilla vs New Monster (no aliens). This seems inevitable considering the new monsters revealed by Atari, but it's also what I'd like. Some of my least favorite Godzilla movies have had aliens involved. Godzilla: Final Wars and Godzilla vs King Ghidorah come to mind. This just brings in a bucketful of cheese that I don't much prefer. I have liked some; Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla and my first Godzilla movie, Invasion of the Astro-Monster. Godzilla 2000 owes its best parts to the Orga plot. But that didn't succeed in reviving Godzilla. And as for solo films, it seems like Toho's dried that concept up pretty clean. I just want original Earth monsters. And a good story.
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But that didn't succeed in reviving Godzilla
Indeed, nor did it help wash the considerable stink off the Godzilla franchise with the previous years Godzilla(1998), this film's rejection by fans as a Godzilla film reportedly playing a role in Toho expediting the return of "their" Godzilla back to the big screen in Godzilla 2000(1999). At this point I would be willing to wait an extra year or two(or three) if it meant Toho would produce a really great Godzilla film.
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Indeed, nor did it help wash the considerable stink off the Godzilla franchise with the previous years Godzilla(1998), this film's rejection by fans as a Godzilla film reportedly playing a role in Toho expediting the return of "their" Godzilla back to the big screen in Godzilla 2000(1999). At this point I would be willing to wait an extra year or two(or three) if it meant Toho would produce a really great Godzilla film.

I would have to agree on this. Toho is so big on their schedule; every film HAS to be made in a year. They know it's not the best way to go about it, but their schedule stands thus. It's quite frustrating, as fans, to look at the ones in control of our franchise in such a negative light.
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Toho is so big on their schedule; every film HAS to be made in a year. They know it's not the best way to go about it, but their schedule stands thus
I hope Toho breaks from tradition one of these days, in making, or perhaps "remaking" Godzilla. For the record, here's what I'd especially like to see from Toho(and Kadokawa, which owns the rights to a certain giant fire breathing turtle):

1. Godzilla Vs Gamera-it'll probably never happen, but, like I always say, one can always hope. The two monsters battle each other(to a draw) to satisfy all kaiju fan's curiosity, then forge an uneasy alliance to take on some type of "super" monster(or monsters). This film could be marvelous, with the right director(e.g Shusuke Kaneko) and effects man.

Remakes:

1. King Kong Vs Godzilla-despite many on the internet calling the idea of a remake of this movie ludicrous I still believe it could work. Obviously the Kong suit would need to be much better than the one used in the 1962 film. That said allow Kong to retain his ability to gain strength from electricity, and keep both monsters in the 50 meter tall range. Unlike the '62 movie, include lots of city destruction scenes.

2. War Of The Gargantuas-two 30 meter tall hairy humanoid behemoths battle it out in Tokyo. To me a remake of the 1966 movie, with upgraded effects, and perhaps a really sinister looking Gaira, would be great. Russ Tamblyn, who ineffectually played Dr. Paul Stewart in the original movie, could have a cameo in the remake, playing a building janitor in the military HQ facility, a role more suited to his acting talents. tongue-1

3. Frankenstein Conquers The World-I still think a remake of the 1965 film has the potential to be good. With today's makeup effects the Franken boy giant could be made even more ugly looking, which is saying a lot.
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1. Godzilla Vs Gamera-it'll probably never happen, but, like I always say, one can always hope. The two monsters battle each other(to a draw) to satisfy all kaiju fan's curiosity, then forge an uneasy alliance to take on some type of "super" monster(or monsters). This film could be marvelous, with the right director(e.g Shusuke Kaneko) and effects man.


I'd definitely pay to see this one! Mr Green -- thumbs up
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I'd definitely pay to see this one!

You wouldn't have to. After getting paid handsome royalties for this film I would give you and your roommate free movie passes, along with hotel accomodations, to see it. tongue-1
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I think a Solo film of Godzilla will work, here's how I rate each eras starter:

Gojira/Godzilla (1954): 10/10

The return of Godzilla: 8/10

Godzilla 2000: 7/10.

while I like G2000 it wasnt as good as the solo Idea, so yeah just Godzilla vs the military.
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I'm not sure what issue it was, but Godzilla squared off against a trio of kaiju called the "War Monsters"-these monsters were all space monsters, and "trained" to fight, much like soldiers, or like fighting canines in illegal dogfights. I always thought this comic's storyline was very cool.

I believe you are referring to Marvel Comics' Godzilla, who fought the Mega Monsters in issues 12 and 13 of his series.

I voted the new monster without aliens option. However, upon thinking, the Godzilla/Gamera or Godzilla/Ultraman ideas seem very attractive to me.

As does Godzilla/Yongary... :lol:
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I hope Godzilla 3D is made, it might get make Toho make more Godzilla films.

I'm with you here, and exactly for the reason you stated. I've seen posts from those declaring that they hope this movie fails...and say that they are Godzilla fans. I cannot understand why a "G" fan would feel that way. confused
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I believe you are referring to Marvel Comics' Godzilla, who fought the Mega Monsters in issues 12 and 13 of his series
And I believe you're right since my recollection about these things is often shaky. tongue-1
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WHAT!. shokking

How could any fan say that... Yoshimitsu Banno did a good job on Godzilla vs Hedorah, so he does deserve to return making another Godzilla film.
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... Yoshimitsu Banno did a good job on Godzilla vs Hedorah, so he does deserve to return making another Godzilla film.

My thoughts exactly. Banno should be commended, and supported by all Godzilla fans, for his efforts in securing funding for this film, something that is usually a fairly difficult thing to do.

I hope this film gets made. thumbs up
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