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The Gender Fallacy: Women in Military Gameplay; A perspective provided entirely by the women of NS
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Topic Started: Dec 20 2014, 01:46 AM (594 Views)
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Xoriet
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Dec 20 2014, 01:46 AM
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The Gender Fallacy: Women in Military Gameplay Xoriet
The contributions of militaries to regions in Gameplay can either be significant to inspiring more regional activity or largely dismissed – unless it encroaches on the sovereignty of an unaffiliated region – all depending on the focus of the community. An entirely different type of player is attracted by arguably one of the most interactive facets of the game. Outside of this specialized area of NS, it is regarded with varying degrees of indifference, resentment, and general contempt. In the basest of terms: “You’re in, or you’re out.”
To provide an example of purposes served to that crowd, the Game Created Regions are typically home to militaries founded with the interests of the region in mind. In The East Pacific, A Mean Old Man originally founded the existing Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army in 2012 with hopes of resuscitating the faltering activity level in the region. The North Pacific Army was first founded to combat Francos Spain, and later revived during Blue Wolf’s tenure as Delegate. The first incarnation of what is today the South Pacific Special Forces was founded in 2003 with the intent of bolstering the Delegate’s endorsement levels and assisting friendly regions. Organizations often have fairly specific, sometimes even cliquish, objectives and make every attempt to prevent deviation from their intended purpose. Unlike regional militaries, there is not always a specific allegiance owed their home region. Whether the focus is defending or raiding under any named ideology, keeping true to the core values responsible for their creation is a critical objective.
Regardless of preference, this specialized facet of Gameplay is typical of the standard ratio – there are far more male players than female. This is an unsurprising statistic. Despite being outnumbered, however, they are far from outclassed. It is from within militaries that some of the most remarkable female players rose to prominence far and away over what many members of the larger population achieved, whether as participants in the military or in an overseeing role. It is when women begin to surpass their male counterparts in terms of popularity and success that one of the most overplayed cards in far more than just NationStates is flashed. Conversely, when men surpass women in the same categories, the attitude is “Move along, move along, this is business as usual. Nothing to see here.” As a result, when women assume leading roles without undeniable evidence that their developing reputation is earned rather than given, it is likely that there will be even a single person who thinks, “Hey, there’s only one possible way that this person is where I want to be. It must be because she is a girl.”
One such prominent woman in the game, Nevadar of Gatesville, provided a particularly fascinating insight on the subject of the relationship between the exalted figurehead and the group structured around the individual. Though she remarked on what appears to be somewhat of a trend with female players – mistakes are more easily forgiven, trust perhaps placed more quickly, and female players being regarded as more sociable, she also observed that with a lack of victories or success, eventually the “entourage” will migrate to someone else, someone who can succeed where they have failed. Further analyzing this, a player of either gender with a set of objectives and expectations can hardly be expected to remain in a relationship which produces unsatisfactory results. Consistent failures have contributed to the downfall of countless regions and militaries both, largely because it demoralizes all involved no matter how magnetic a figurehead may be. Inevitably, the failure to produce the desired results will lead them to attempt to branch off, or perhaps the members will gradually fold into other regions and militaries in hopes of a better experience.
On a note which is an example of success in such a role, Pope Hope has been described as the bedrock of the Alliance Defense Network. Despite claims that criticism was redirected from one of the most remarkable female players in history to those who served as “attack dogs” to keep her reputation intact, Ananke also stated that this was false, as Pope Hope certainly received a fair amount of criticism for being a part of ADN. An interview with one of the pioneers of early Gameplay displayed an overwhelmingly negative view of her actual ability to contribute. Why? She was merely the means to attract new members and keep people interested because, as a female, Pope Hope was established for no other purpose than the expectation that she would play the gender card to win new members rather than because she had genuine talent in some of the most important aspects in a credible leader. In addition, she was good at it, better than most others. Few “figureheads” placed for mere convenience would merit the descriptions “bedrock” and “good at everything” from players as widely respected and highly regarded as Ananke.
Of course, the gender card certainly can be played to the advantage of the player in question. Various answers in response to the question regarding their view of claims that success is achieved through gender manipulation were varied, yet shared several base components:
Crazy Girl noted in response to the inquiry on this view, “If it works for them, fair enough. Not my style though.”
Improving Wordiness remarked, “I can understand the accusation as I have witnessed that tactic being used, although more often by male players pretending to be female players in order to manipulate others.” She also went on to express that, as a female player, the key to gaining respect was working hard, staying active, and being honest.
Tramiar’s answer was similar. “I’m sure it happens. I’ve seen it happen. But it’s not always the case. Many are truly great at what they do.” She went on to observe humorously that some female Gameplayers have been in the game for so long that they were stuck with them.
Ananke's views on the matter were direct. "It's possible women might stand out a bit more in Gameplay, because more guys than girls tend to get involved in the political and military aspects, but all the women I've known in NS who've risen to higher positions have gotten there due to their skills. From my experience to get into a commanding position in military Gameplay you need to show people that you know what you're doing, like f.eks. be good at spotting invasions or get intel."
Nevadar provided a detailed breakdown of the advantages to being female when she was active, as well as further elaborating on the note that the tactic has been used by male players to gain an advantage – to the point that some agents were trained to convincingly imitate women. “I could get away with far more than my male counterparts in terms of behavior and I had many more people offering assistance than I believe I would have otherwise. Being single and knowing how to flirt (without taking it too far, as that also had negative consequence) were huge political advantages.”
There is no shortage of instances where the identity of a woman assumed was applied with varying levels of success. Several particularly known cases of false gender identification include Lots of Ants, a Gatesville agent placed in The West Pacific who later achieved Delegacy – still under the female identity. Lady Anastasia was a critical member of Empire going under the alias Lady Anastasia to conceal his true identity in lieu of the multiple roles he held as Dalimbar. Liz Lemons, posing as a female player in Osiris whose actual identity post being exposed has been alleged to be one of the core members of The Black Hawks as well as one of the more prominent coupers in the game. Though Lady Anastasia was somewhat less personable than Lots of Ants and Liz Lemons due to differing objectives, all three of them are not liable to be forgotten so easily.
One thing to note, though, is that most of said cases are only related to military Gameplay insofar as regional delegacies and reinforcements are concerned. While the claim can still be made, the numerous women presently occupying commanding military positions within the most significant organizations and militaries today are there as result of effort and dedication on their part, not achieved through assumed identities. Their experience on the field and consistency within their spheres have long since perished thoughts of less honest methods of advancement. Improving Wordiness is the Field Commander of the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organization, one of the most widely recognized defender militaries. Tramiar is a General and member of the Council of Hawks in The Black Hawks, arguably the top active raiding organization in terms of quality and originality. Regarding the earlier statement about women who seem to rise without first having proven their worth sufficiently, the women here have a greater opportunity to win and hold the confidence of those who might question them in another setting. Their accomplishments speak for themselves at this point.
Examining the potential impact a player identifying as female may have in NS Gameplay, part of a political simulation game whose overall populace is comprised of significantly more men, using gender certainly be played to advance more quickly. In fact, the ability to do so is more of a strength than a weakness, and something that is not out of place in the game. While that much is true, the military aspect of Gameplay requires the utilization of a different set of skills. When asked about the keys to success in the military, the general consensus indicated that activity and contribution are worth the most in their eyes. Charisma might make a good motivator, but without sufficient consistency in participation, working to sustain the activity of the military, refusing to compromise beliefs for the sake of popularity, and maintaining genuine credibility gained through honesty, the person in question is liable to remain as another person in a perpetual assembly line or effectively serve as an advertisement. These qualities apply to both male and female players.
A position is worth very little in the eyes of others if it is achieved through guile or default – the difference between promotions justly earned and cosmetic promotions can be determined as soon as the planning phases of a first operation – or “just enough to be admired.” To really succeed in Military Gameplay, and certainly to reach the point of widespread acknowledgement by the biggest names in the game, the willingness to go above and beyond merely what is required will go a long way. Success is achieved, not bestowed. Every successful female military leader by that definition, past and present, is recognized as such because of her merit, not because of her gender.
If anyone finds it too much trouble to actually put any more than the bare minimum into the military just to move up a rank, or if the position is treated with negligence once attained, it is almost certain that “successful” is the last adjective to anticipate decorating their military reputation as far as the international community is concerned.
(Happy fifth year in Gameplay, Wordy <3)
**Disclaimer: No, I don't think this mindset encompasses the entirety of NS.**
Edited by Xoriet, Dec 20 2014, 03:44 AM.
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Dec 20 2014, 01:58 AM
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Your essay is brilliant.
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Dec 20 2014, 02:24 AM
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It is. A good representation of some of the leading ladies in NS MilGP. Well done. It was a pleasure to read.
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Dec 20 2014, 08:35 AM
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This is one of the best lectures I've read at any of the three World Fairs, and it was great to not only get your views but also the views of other prominent female players. Very impressive.
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Dec 20 2014, 09:30 AM
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Very well written indeed!
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Dec 20 2014, 03:28 PM
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This is a good, balanced essay, which was easy to read, and makes some valuable points - backed up by a variety of quality first hand sources - in addition of course to the authors own experience. Not at all like the last cringe-worthy attempt at broaching the gender issue, made by "El-Scorcho" aka. Unibot. Well done.
I thoroughly agree with the conclusions that at the end of the day, no one rises to the top of a military organisation without putting in substantial effort and having considerable skill in executing operations. From my experience in NS, military institutions are almost completely gender-blind. It is only in the wider sphere of NS politics where the "political advantages" Nevadar mentions become a real possibility. And even then, of course the vast majority of female players don't systematically engage in that sort of behaviour - it's just people only talk about it when it fits a stereotype and it suits them.
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Dec 20 2014, 05:59 PM
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Here is the transcript from Xoriet's lecture -
IRC Transcript - Dec 19 9-10 PM EST - Code:
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<@Xoriet> I am Xoriet. Although my standard response to the question these days is "useless EPSA baggage" due to WA immobility (also known as Field Marshal), I'm also the present Delegate of TEP <BenevolentThomas> this article is far too long. <@Unibot> But it's very good. :) <@Xoriet> I know, BT =( <@Xoriet> When I hit the fourth page on Word, there was no turning back <@Xoriet> Anyways, I joined Gameplay approximately a year and slightly over a month ago, although I was an avid forumlurker for six months previously. * Crimson Quit (Remote host closed the connection) * BGP Quit (Ping timeout: 186 seconds) <@Xoriet> I was raised by the Eastern Pacific Sovereign Army for pretty much that entire span of time, so half of my heart is still on the updating field. <@Xoriet> The other half is usually expressing itself on IRC and Skype distributing assorted huggles and couping people randomly. * @Unibot nods. * BenevolentThomas can testify to that * @Xoriet coups BT <MrPink> I have taught Xor well! <BenevolentThomas> I cant believe you'd do that in front of all of these people :o <BenevolentThomas> you really are the dirty girl of defending! <@Unibot> Obviously, you're speaking from experience yourself, Xoriet. What drew you to the topic, might I ask? * @Unibot shudders at BT's comments. <@Xoriet> Anyways, the idea for the topic was conceived fairly quickly after I was asked to write something up. It had to be something I would really want to write, or I probably wouldn't have agreed. <@Unibot> :P * BGP has joined #auditorium_one * Sem|Away Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) <BenevolentThomas> https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS592US592&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=coup for Unibot <BenevolentThomas> you will understand my comment when you understand what Xor and I already know. <@Xoriet> What made this topic particularly special was actually an interview with 1 Infinite Loop some time ago. If you've read the essay, you'll note that I commented extensively on that. <@Xoriet> At the time, I found it a little horrible to think that any success achieved might be attributed to gender. <@Xoriet> So this has been a personal thing for a number of months now. The ultimate result cumulated in this essay. <@Unibot> I know, myself, I've always disliked how NPO made its criticism of Pope Hope intergral to its propaganda - in depicting her as some kind of spounge for young men. I think it's great to see you touch on Pope Hope's history. <BenevolentThomas> its because you were in a GCR military :P One barely has to be active to become a big whiz in those :p <@Xoriet> BT <ANewCent-> good to know:P <Ram> Awkward. <BenevolentThomas> Sorry, I inherited my feelings about GCRs from Wordy. * Starrie Quit (*.net *.split) * SNT-FFR|OlympicTrials Quit (*.net *.split) * r3n_Quit (*.net *.split) * QuietDad Quit (*.net *.split) * SUS has joined #auditorium_one <@Xoriet> I noticed ;) * Arekrya has joined #auditorium_one * @Todd_McCloud Quit (Ping timeout: 186 seconds) <@Unibot> What was the greatest challenge for you in writing this essay, Xoriet? <BenevolentThomas> Not to say that you're not skilled. You'd definitely be a TO in TITO by now had you gone that rout. * Starrie has joined #auditorium_one * r3n_ has joined #auditorium_one * SNT-FFR|OlympicTrials has joined #auditorium_one * QuietDad has joined #auditorium_one <@Unibot> Hi gentlemen! <@Unibot> We're just discussing Xoriet's work. <@Xoriet> Greatest challenge? Probably managing to contact the people I interviewed. <Sev> How did you feel about getting to talk to those people? * Rifty Quit (Quit: Web client closed) <BenevolentThomas> Did you try to interview Earth? <MrPink> Yeah no. Not a good idea BT. <@Unibot> I know Earth felt as though she was limited, or shall we say "typecasted" (just borrowing a term from acting) as a politician because of her gender. <@Unibot> But I don't want to put words into her mouth. <Ram> Ooh. Antelopes. <MrPink> She gets really made if you bring up NS with her these days. <@Xoriet> I confirmed that: Wordy is amazing, Ananke is also amazing. Tramiar is my favorite female raider. <MrPink> mad* <@Xoriet> I also met Nevadar, which was quite the experience. <@Xoriet> (Thanks to Elindra for that <3) * Beta__ Quit (Ping timeout: 186 seconds) <@Unibot> It's funny, Nevadar seemed to hold a different perspective than the others involved, I thought. <Rach> Being female is NS is a mixed bag really. Some regions can be old boys clubs :P <@Unibot> But I appreciated her honesty. <Ram> Do you mean an all-male retirement home, Rach? :P <Sev> Did any of the responses surprise you, Xoriet? <@Xoriet> A few, actually. <Sev> Can you elaborate? * NorthernSunrise has joined #auditorium_one * Miraneaway has joined #auditorium_one <NorthernSunrise> Hey, Shizu. :3 * @Unibot waves to Northern and Mirane <MrPink> Elaborate Xormangandr. <@Unibot> I know several of the responses surprised me. I'm curious what Xoriet thought. <@Xoriet> During my conversation with Ananke, I was fascinated to get a female perspective of Pope Hope. * Sev nods <@Xoriet> Prior, I've only ever heard her described from male players. <@Xoriet> And the conversation with Nevadar as well <NorthernSunrise> Hey, boss. <@Xoriet> The idea that they specifically trained agents to play as female characters is a rather interesting one. That was echoed by a few of the others as well - some of the reputation was garnered through the actions of men pretending to be women. <BenevolentThomas> and how do you feel about that? <BenevolentThomas> I come across men playing women quite a bit and generally don't really care. Would you be offended if someone was pretending to be a female to garner favor from the men of TEP? <ANewCent-> taking the game too seriously <@Unibot> It's interesting you say that because in a way, Xoriet, when you think about it, a lot of NS History is written almost exclusively by men. Perspectives passed on generation to generation. *nods* <BenevolentThomas> Men like Unibot. :p <@Xoriet> I'It is...interesting. Apparently they garnered results through that tactic, but the idea is not to my tastes at all. <@Unibot> Agreed, sadly, BT. :P I've also done a lot of NS research and it's true: almost all of the historians who sat down to write stuff were men. Men also seem to be predominately more likely to sit down and write like a treatise and scream their opinions out at people. <@Xoriet> Oh, I wouldn't approve if I knew. If I did, it's not my place to interfere unless it begins to cause problems in the region. At that point action is inevitable. <@Xoriet> *didn't <NorthernSunrise> I think I always had an easy time doing the female role characters. Though you'd have to ask Miraneaway about that. <NorthernSunrise> =P <BenevolentThomas> Whenever I need a history lesson, I talk to Ananke. Its amazing how much she remembers. <@Unibot> There are lots of surviving lectures from EuroSoviets, Unistrut etc. Much more difficult to find the surviving words of an established female player. <@Xoriet> The difference between Ananke's perspective of Pope Hope and ones I have gathered from male players prior was eye-opening. <NorthernSunrise> Netsplits are a pain here too? Damn, esper. <Sev> The internet can't handle all the awesome, Xoriet :P <@Unibot> It's been bad tonight. <RedBlackiland> This worked for me,i haven't problems with it <NorthernSunrise> It's been bad for quite a while back in #nssport too, TBH <ANewCent-> gr <NorthernSunrise> Maybe they're not paying the bill and stuff. <BenevolentThomas> So should we pressure women like Xoriet and Rach to keep an account of what they see going on around them in NS for posterity's sake? <@Xoriet> Modern female players aren't free of the same criticisms, either. I'm not sure that is part of some secret reputation I have that I don't know about yet. <@Unibot> That'd be unfair, BT, I think - I'm just pointing out that sociological finding that men dominated discussions and the sharing of opinions appears to apply to NS too. <@Unibot> Xoriet: Do you believe that the military can be a good launching pad for empowerment/success for female players in regions. <Rach> We should be careful of making too much or too little of this. <Rach> *not making <@Xoriet> That's up in the air, honestly. Military Gameplay isn't much fun for me if I'm not updating or actively planning. <BenevolentThomas> ^why I love you <@Xoriet> It depends on their interests. It either appeals, or it doesn't. <@Xoriet> Keeping new members is far more difficult than recruiting them, largely because there isn't much fun to be had in moving region to region by TG. <@Xoriet> I made an effort to describe the background and motivation for any mission EPSA went on that required pilers so that they would be included at least that much in the thought process of the staff. <@frattastan> Are there female invaders or NPO's members from PH's time? <@Unibot> I wrote an article a while back and I'm wondering your thoughts on it; it essentially argued that culture and the "ministry of culture" was a bit of a trap for female players - they'd get stuck in them; not moving upwards politically and just continuing to organise and participate in cultural activities. I'm curious what you'd think of this line of thought? Note: I understand some may distinctly enjoy culture (it's been my favourite thing to do as a leader in TRR I've found) but I also think it can be a glass ceiling for some. <@Unibot> (LadyRebels comes to mind, Fratt) <BenevolentThomas> cultural activities is the best part about being part of a NS community imo. <@frattastan> True, Uni. Meridianland might've been around too? I was wondering how they felt about the characterisation of PH that their regional/group propaganda made. * Kraketopia Quit (Quit: Web client closed) <@Unibot> I know one top Pacifician official who is female does firmly repeat the stuff about PH. <Ram> Oh? <@Unibot> I'm not sure how much first hand experience she had with PH, though. <@Unibot> *who does <Ram> Are you at liberty to disclose who this person is, Uni? <@Unibot> It's possible she's just repeating a very common propaganda line in the NPO - which is really common. <@frattastan> Depends on how high up she was back then. I don't think there were as many contacts between opposing sides as there are now. <@Unibot> No, not at all. <Ram> Ah, alright. <@Unibot> I don't she was high up them. * SNT-FFR|OlympicTrials has left #auditorium_one <BenevolentThomas> you're not a liberty to share the name of your source? <BenevolentThomas> at* <@Unibot> Bear in mind, most of the guard that's established now, was not necessarily as established now. <Rach> I'll admit that Unibot has a point with the Ministry of Culture trap :P <Sev> O______O <Sev> Rach and Uni agreed <Sev> :P <@Xoriet> Sev don't say it <@Unibot> I'd like to hear Rach's thoughts on it. :P <@Xoriet> You'll break the spell <NorthernSunrise> Welp, finally finished reading it. <Ram> Well, TEP's MoCE breaks your trend, Uni. :P <NorthernSunrise> I liked it, though I'm not really a fan of Military stuff. <Rach> Well, firstly men and women can both be caught in the Ministry of Culture trap but I think it is well noted that Culture is often considered to be the most dead end of the Ministries in most regions. <@Unibot> Which is stupid, by the way. :P I've never understood why we prioritise culture as like the bottom of the priorities. <BGP> When culture is left to be defined as games of werewolf and spam, yes. <Rach> And I think there is a bit of a feeling that women tend to be better at cultural events as a bit of a stereotype. <Ram> That depends on what you do with it, really. TEP's Minister of Culture, BGP, has done an outstanding job. <Sev> For the record, that's not why I chose you as my culture minister, Rach :P * tano has joined #auditorium_one <Sev> o/ Tano :) <Chasmanthe> wb Tano :) <Rach> And I know in a couple regions I was in, it was what I was constantly asked to do even though I wanted to do other things. Monarchy type regions, seem to be prone to these stereotypes more <BenevolentThomas> boo, Tano <tano> o7 <@Xoriet> BT, don't abuse my EPSA kids * tano faints in terror * Electrum has joined #auditorium_one <@Unibot> I've def seen that before where, like a really capable player was put in culture constantly - despite years of experience and she was never given any resources to excel in culture. Basically, all you seem to need was a penis and a year of experience to get the "coveted MoFA job". <Sev> Rach, I think you have a solid reputation for creating activity (and you point this out in Balder and in your news articles on the subject). <Rach> Lol, in fairness I wasn't accusing you Sev :P <Sev> I know, Rach :P <BenevolentThomas> MoFA is a coveted position? <Sev> ^ Not from my point of view :P <@frattastan> Prestigious position? <Ram> Apparently. <Rach> This might get me in trouble too, but some regions are more old boys clubs than others. Europeia, despite having 3 excellent female Presidents and politicians who have excelled at all levels has been an all boys club at the chancellory level. * Arekrya Quit (Ping timeout: 186 seconds) * Arekrya has joined #auditorium_one <@Unibot> I got that sense too, but most of what I know is from what I've heard from Earth. Any problems that Europeia faces though, are probably issues that a lot of UCRs will face. It's good to air them out. <Ram> D: <BenevolentThomas> I think ageism is more of a problem than sexism in GCRs <Ram> Nah. <@Unibot> I think both are quite common. <Rach> Yeah, and Earth and I didn't get along most of the time. But I am able to recognize that both her and Aurora (unrelated to the Osiris variety) had tremendous success at a political level and I don't think always got the credit they deserved. <BenevolentThomas> I meant UCRs* dammit <Ram> Lel <Funkadelia> hi <Sev> ageism IRL or NS age? <BenevolentThomas> i always dyslexic GRC and UCR <BenevolentThomas> NS age <Ram> Uh huh. <Ram> ;) <Ram> We know the truth, BT. ;) <MrPink> I've never seen NS ageism as a problem, especially as time went on. <@Xoriet> Honestly, I've yet to encounter sexism in all my time TEP. <Sev> Which is sort of the answer to another question I had. <Sev> Xoriet, in your experience do you think females have to work harder because they feel they have something to prove in a largely male dominated environment? <Rach> My own frustration with Europeia is the fact that NES and I pretty much started out around the same time to get active in Europeia and I worked harder than him and held more of the top elected positions. <Rach> And yet he was the one who became a vice chancellor and an admin :P <MrPink> You just weren <BenevolentThomas> You should leave then and make your own defender UCR :p <@Unibot> As for TEP: I do think the masonic theme is a bit much and I had suggested getting rid of the gender-specific notation in the constitution. :P * SUS has left #auditorium_one <@Unibot> All of this was highly controversial though. * Kringle is now known as KringAway <@Unibot> And went over like a bag of fireworks. <Ram> And yet our Delegate is female. D: <MrPink> You just weren't as sexy as NES was then Kate* <Ram> Imagine that. <Rach> I think in GCRs it is different, but it all pretty much depends on who is holding what position <Rach> I can't imagine TRR being sexist with CG being the forum owner <@Xoriet> My experience in EPSA was pretty straightforward. I might have been the first female member, but aside from the obligatory jokes and good natured teasing, the only thing I had to prove was that I was dedicated to the region and EPSA. <@Xoriet> That goes a long way. * Sev nods <BenevolentThomas> competency trumps all <Ram> And you were General in, what, 6 months? :P <MrPink> <Rach> I think in GCRs it is different, but it all pretty much depends on who is holding what position <- True, I hold the title of Greatest Badass in all the GCRs. <@Xoriet> ....five. <Chasmanthe> 4.5 <Ram> Ah. <Rach> is MrPink CG? :P <Ram> Zao, apparently. <Rach> oh :( <Sev> Mekhet/Zaolat :P <Rach> that is disappointing :( <MrPink> D: <Rach> I love Zao... :P <Rach> but I never see CG! <MrPink> I beat CG in a Pokemon battle once. >: D <@Xoriet> Eh. The sudden promotion based on being the most active candidate meant I had to learn as much as I could very quickly. <@Xoriet> I spent a lot of time with more experienced players to make up for the deficiency in experience. <Chasmanthe> Xoriet did about as much work in those 4 months as the rest of the army put together <@Unibot> You were the obvious choice. <@Xoriet> Obvious, yes, but I had a lot of room to improve =P <@Unibot> Anyhoo, we're an hour in - so if you'd like Xoriet, we could open this up to just more general discussion? <@Xoriet> Proceed <@Unibot> Awesome. <MrPink> Xor also learned from myself and Dali on how to coup TEP. Looks like it was a success. <@Unibot> It was a brilliant read, Xoriet. thanks so much for sharing with us. :) <@Xoriet> ..... <Rach> I think Xoriets main asset is that she is awesome * @Xoriet coups Zaolat in the darkness <Rach> *the awesomest <@Xoriet> <3 Rach <Rach> <3 <NorthernSunrise> Ey, Unibot <@Unibot> Feel free everyone to stick around all you like and chat. ;) <NorthernSunrise> Just to make sure it's straight <@Unibot> Yep? <NorthernSunrise> I have to post my one out at Noon, Dec. 24, right? <Ram> The acronym to the world fair is unfortunate. <NorthernSunrise> And then, where do I receive questions and stuff? <@Unibot> Here. <Sev> NSWF is NSFW <@Xoriet> Ramaeus Aloysius Marcion Montresor. <@Xoriet> There are children... <@Unibot> We'll chat about it later on IRC. <@Xoriet> Sev <.< <Ram> >_> <_> <NorthernSunrise> Not #auditorium_three? <@Unibot> We usually run these things fairly informally. <Sev> Xoriet :P <@Unibot> Auditorium Three is for discussion specifically on the NS Sports event. * Soviet_Canuckistan Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) <@Xoriet> Ah, and Unibot. Thanks for the opportunity. It was fun =)
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