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brumdog44 Dec 21 2016, 11:20 PM Post #1
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For the love of God.......back to back 20 rebound games? Double/double in every game except

Dude is a legitimate player of the year candidate.

Have to say he has the look of a player like George McGinnis for those of us old enough to remember his play.
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Back to back 20-20 games, that's pretty impressive no matter who you're playing against. He's starting to dominate the way I remember seeing him do in high school. Strength wise, there just aren't many guys in the country that could compete with him...maybe none.
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Back to back 20-20 games, that's pretty impressive no matter who you're playing against. He's starting to dominate the way I remember seeing him do in high school. Strength wise, there just aren't many guys in the country that could compete with him...maybe none.
That's why I threw the George McGinnis comparison out. George was a man among boys.....when he got to the ABA/NBA level it still carried over.

I teach with a guy who played with McGinnis in high school on the Washington team that went undefeated and won the state tournament. During that season, McGinnis became teh first player in Indiana history to score 1,000 in a single season.

Anyway, Swanigan's game is a modern day version of McGinnis IMO. Dominating rebounder, good post prescence with the ability to hit pop out and hit from the perimeter. McGinnis did average 30 points per game in his single season at IU after playing at Vincennes, but that was a different day and age.

This is how good George McGinnis was....the Indiana Pacers traded a 24 year old player averaging 22 points per game (Alex English) AND a first round pick for McGinnis after he had been gone from Indiana for a couple of years.
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Swanigan now has 3 20-20 games. The rest of college basketball has 2. This is insane.
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He's really good. And he shows up and brings it every night.

I think he's probably the early leader for B1G POY and I'd imagine he'd be on an AA team. Lots of season left but could be a fun one for him and the team.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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He's really good. And he shows up and brings it every night.

I think he's probably the early leader for B1G POY and I'd imagine he'd be on an AA team. Lots of season left but could be a fun one for him and the team.
What is your opinion of the McGinnis comparison? I know that goes back before your time, didn't know if you'd ever seen videos of him.

McGinnis was a beast in the one year he was at IU (averaged 30 points and 14 rebounds -- that was an Indiana team that REALLY pushed tempo, averaged 90 points per game -- 4th in the NCAA -- and gave up 86 points per game, in the bottom ten percent nationally). He simply overpowered players but his size is basically Swanigan's. Think Swanigan would be putting up similar numbers to what McGinnis did if they played in the same era.
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He's really good. And he shows up and brings it every night.

I think he's probably the early leader for B1G POY and I'd imagine he'd be on an AA team. Lots of season left but could be a fun one for him and the team.
What is your opinion of the McGinnis comparison? I know that goes back before your time, didn't know if you'd ever seen videos of him.

McGinnis was a beast in the one year he was at IU (averaged 30 points and 14 rebounds -- that was an Indiana team that REALLY pushed tempo, averaged 90 points per game -- 4th in the NCAA -- and gave up 86 points per game, in the bottom ten percent nationally). He simply overpowered players but his size is basically Swanigan's. Think Swanigan would be putting up similar numbers to what McGinnis did if they played in the same era.
My dad played against him in HS so I'll have to ask him.

I've read about him and heard stories. Seems like a pretty good comp.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Oh yeah. Swanigan needs to work on his....um....steal...rate. Yeah. That.

Seriously though. He's having a dominant season. Wonderful decision to come back.
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He's really good. And he shows up and brings it every night.

I think he's probably the early leader for B1G POY and I'd imagine he'd be on an AA team. Lots of season left but could be a fun one for him and the team.
What is your opinion of the McGinnis comparison? I know that goes back before your time, didn't know if you'd ever seen videos of him.

McGinnis was a beast in the one year he was at IU (averaged 30 points and 14 rebounds -- that was an Indiana team that REALLY pushed tempo, averaged 90 points per game -- 4th in the NCAA -- and gave up 86 points per game, in the bottom ten percent nationally). He simply overpowered players but his size is basically Swanigan's. Think Swanigan would be putting up similar numbers to what McGinnis did if they played in the same era.
My dad played against him in HS so I'll have to ask him.

I've read about him and heard stories. Seems like a pretty good comp.
McGinnis had NBA Hall of Fame talent. If he had went to the NBA right out of college instead of the ABA and had been on a winner, he's probably in. He did have an abrupt end to his career. During the first 8 years of his career (four in the ABA, four in the NBA), he averaged 23.5 points, 12.2 points, and 3.8 rebounds. Just three years later, he was out of the NBA after seeing big declines. During his day, the ABA and NBA averages teetered around 108 to 110 points per game, so if it was adjusted for pace of play to today's standards, we're still probably looking at 20 points/11 boards/3+ assists per game. I'd say his biggest current NBA comparison would be DeMarcus Cousins.....similar numbers. He wasn't as big as Cousins but he did have more skill. He played together with Julius Erving for a couple of years in Philadelphia (both were also the same age) and they had strikingly similar numbers: Erving averaged 21.1 points, 7.5 rebounds, and 3.8 assists; McGinnis averaged 20.9 points, 11.0 rebounds, and 3.8 assists. He actually led the 76ers in points, rebounds, and assists in 1975.
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I know it came in a loss....but damn, 28/22 in a Big Ten game is completely unheard of. Getting half of each of those is typically a pretty damn good game.
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Read that Swanigan now has three 20/20 games. The rest of the NCAA has 3 as well. That's nuts.

He now has two 50 PAR games and was one away from having three.
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Read that Swanigan now has three 20/20 games. The rest of the NCAA has 3 as well. That's nuts.

He now has two 50 PAR games and was one away from having three.
I think that makes 4 20/20 games. He had one early and then back to back vs ND and whatever scrub they played after that.

He's been really good. I would think he's an AA and probably the B1G POY so far.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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Read that Swanigan now has three 20/20 games. The rest of the NCAA has 3 as well. That's nuts.

He now has two 50 PAR games and was one away from having three.
I think that makes 4 20/20 games. He had one early and then back to back vs ND and whatever scrub they played after that.

He's been really good. I would think he's an AA and probably the B1G POY so far.
I stand corrected, that is four. He opened with a 23/20 game. The Minnesota one is obviously the most impressive because of level of competition.

Consider this: Minnesota's starting lineup had 20 rebounds. Swanigan had 22.
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Read that Swanigan now has three 20/20 games. The rest of the NCAA has 3 as well. That's nuts.

He now has two 50 PAR games and was one away from having three.
I think that makes 4 20/20 games. He had one early and then back to back vs ND and whatever scrub they played after that.

He's been really good. I would think he's an AA and probably the B1G POY so far.
I stand corrected, that is four. He opened with a 23/20 game. The Minnesota one is obviously the most impressive because of level of competition.

Consider this: Minnesota's starting lineup had 20 rebounds. Swanigan had 22.
He was also going up against a guy in Jordan Murphy who had 21 rebounds in his previous game against Michigan State. He only got 6 in this one.
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The one thing I like about Swanigan is the dude just plays hard. Even in OT yesterday when the game was out of reach, he was crashing the boards like the game was on the line.

You can't teach that as a coach; it's an internal drive that is quite rare. I honestly like watching him play because of that. He reminds me a bit of Chris Kramer, except he's much bigger and talented. He never settles. It's a shame for B1G opponents that he wasn't projected higher in the draft :)
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