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Brohm seems like a really good coach and the best they've had in quite some time. I'll take solace in the fact that with his coaching skills, if he recruits at a high level like this, he won't be at Purdue for long!
Thanks for your input. Enlightening as always re Purdue.

And I think you’ll be disappointed in regards to him leaving really quickly. Your ignorance on the matter is funny.
You're kind of a dick, huh?
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Brohm seems like a really good coach and the best they've had in quite some time. I'll take solace in the fact that with his coaching skills, if he recruits at a high level like this, he won't be at Purdue for long!
Thanks for your input. Enlightening as always re Purdue.

And I think you’ll be disappointed in regards to him leaving really quickly. Your ignorance on the matter is funny.
You're kind of a dick, huh?
His attitude towards Purdue has always been condescending and belittling. And he has never contributed one ounce of useful commentary when it comes to anything Purdue related
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There are a lot of the Indiana guys on here that make their jokes and fail to ever see anything positive about what Purdue does, but he’s long been a giant a hole with regard to Purdue. Pretty much everyone else can at least contribute some useful dialogue.

He’s typically fine otherwise on most other topics.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Brohm seems like a really good coach and the best they've had in quite some time. I'll take solace in the fact that with his coaching skills, if he recruits at a high level like this, he won't be at Purdue for long!
Thanks for your input. Enlightening as always re Purdue.

And I think you’ll be disappointed in regards to him leaving really quickly. Your ignorance on the matter is funny.
You're kind of a dick, huh?
I don't think DC was held enough as a child.
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There are a lot of the Indiana guys on here that make their jokes and fail to ever see anything positive about what Purdue does
I, in fact, was doing the exact opposite of that. Brohm is doing big things at Purdue so far. Besides the fact I know how you are, I'm not sure why anyone would take offense to what I said.

Sorry if this hurts your feelings, but Purdue, although better than Indiana, isn't exactly a destination program for football. You've been posting all of this information about how well he's recruiting, which is fantastic for the program. As an Indiana fan, I don't necessarily love hearing that, so him moving on eventually, which I assume is likely, is something to look forward to. If Brad Stevens coached at IU and they were perennial FF contenders, I'm sure you'd want him to leave, too. This isn't exactly earth-shattering.
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Brohm seems like a really good coach and the best they've had in quite some time. I'll take solace in the fact that with his coaching skills, if he recruits at a high level like this, he won't be at Purdue for long!
Thanks for your input. Enlightening as always re Purdue.

And I think you’ll be disappointed in regards to him leaving really quickly. Your ignorance on the matter is funny.
Brohm is good. Think Boat was mostly ribbing.

Anyway, it’s not like anybody (including you) has a crystal ball and knows what will happen four years or so down the road.
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Brohm seems like a really good coach and the best they've had in quite some time. I'll take solace in the fact that with his coaching skills, if he recruits at a high level like this, he won't be at Purdue for long!
Thanks for your input. Enlightening as always re Purdue.

And I think you’ll be disappointed in regards to him leaving really quickly. Your ignorance on the matter is funny.
Brohm is good. Think Boat was mostly ribbing.

Anyway, it’s not like anybody (including you) has a crystal ball and knows what will happen four years or so down the road.
i actually do.
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There are a lot of the Indiana guys on here that make their jokes and fail to ever see anything positive about what Purdue does
I, in fact, was doing the exact opposite of that. Brohm is doing big things at Purdue so far. Besides the fact I know how you are, I'm not sure why anyone would take offense to what I said.

Sorry if this hurts your feelings, but Purdue, although better than Indiana, isn't exactly a destination program for football. You've been posting all of this information about how well he's recruiting, which is fantastic for the program. As an Indiana fan, I don't necessarily love hearing that, so him moving on eventually, which I assume is likely, is something to look forward to. If Brad Stevens coached at IU and they were perennial FF contenders, I'm sure you'd want him to leave, too. This isn't exactly earth-shattering.
What destination jobs would he be leaving for? I know you probably don’t follow it, but Purdue has made huge investments in football, including a football only facility that puts it on par with anyone in the B1G and country. Ross-Ade is due for major upgrades to its south end zone and at some point adding an upper deck to the east side. It had the largest attendance increase in the country last year and is selling season tickets faster this year than last. It already pays Brohm very well, gave him an extension and has given his assistants raises and added all sorts of recruiting personnel and player development positions. And it has quite possibly the best conference schedule setup in the country.

Obviously there are super elite programs (Alabama/USC/Clemson/Texas) that could come calling, but I can’t imagine it happening soon. And I can’t imagine him leaving Purdue for a middle of the road SEC or ACC to get beat down and run out of town in 3 years for not winning at an elite level.

If he leaves Purdue it would IMO be for a major major program for a lot o money, and I’m not sure he would garner that type of interest for a few years and a few years of winning big time. Alabama isn’t going to replace Saban with just anyone.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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There are a lot of programs in between Purdue and Alabama. Not sure you want to be that hyperbolic.

Anyway, if in four years Brohm is looking to move on to another job he considers to be a move up, that is a nice problem to have because it would mean the program has had very good success under him. I’m not sure why you are so offended by that thought. Believe me, I wish Indiana had been successful enough that upper tier programs wanted our coaches.
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Wasn't he just rumored to almost leave Purdue after last year? And Cam even has a quote from recruit which says, "If he stays at Purdue". If they have a good year again, I think he'll be a very hot coaching candidate out on the market.
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Wasn't he just rumored to almost leave Purdue after last year? And Cam even has a quote from recruit which says, "If he stays at Purdue". If they have a good year again, I think he'll be a very hot coaching candidate out on the market.
He was not close to going to Tennessee. Never interviewed, don’t know if he ever actually spoke to anyone there.

The recruits say that because other teams have been using that against Purdue. Doesn’t make true. And with the new facility and commitment to the program, I don’t see any reason for him to leave unless the major major players in CFB come calling. And I’m not even sure what the next major job will even come open in the next 3 years.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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And I’m not even sure what the next major job will even come open in the next 3 years.
I'm sure it's not going to Brohm there, but I don't think Brian Kelly is going to go more than three more years at Notre Dame. Regardless, there are jobs that open up all the time regardless of whether we can see them three years down the road.

In terms of your assessment of Purdue being a destination job, I don't think many agree with your assessment. You know I love IU football....but my God, I'd never call it a destination job.

https://armchairallamericans.com/definitively-ranking-all-130-college-football-head-coaching-jobs/
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And I’m not even sure what the next major job will even come open in the next 3 years.
I'm sure it's not going to Brohm there, but I don't think Brian Kelly is going to go more than three more years at Notre Dame. Regardless, there are jobs that open up all the time regardless of whether we can see them three years down the road.

In terms of your assessment of Purdue being a destination job, I don't think many agree with your assessment. You know I love IU football....but my God, I'd never call it a destination job.

https://armchairallamericans.com/definitively-ranking-all-130-college-football-head-coaching-jobs/
A lot has changed since that article was published. And it put Indiana above Purdue. It also had the service academies above many P5 schools. So there’s not a lot of credibility there.

Purdue has transformed its program in the last year. To the point, it’s probably take one of those top 15 schools going after him. I don’t see much chance for change there or the next 10ish schools.

Then you get into that UNC/Arkansas/Mississippi group. You really think he’s running off to that group from Purdue? I just don’t buy it.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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And I’m not even sure what the next major job will even come open in the next 3 years.
I'm sure it's not going to Brohm there, but I don't think Brian Kelly is going to go more than three more years at Notre Dame. Regardless, there are jobs that open up all the time regardless of whether we can see them three years down the road.

In terms of your assessment of Purdue being a destination job, I don't think many agree with your assessment. You know I love IU football....but my God, I'd never call it a destination job.

https://armchairallamericans.com/definitively-ranking-all-130-college-football-head-coaching-jobs/
A lot has changed since that article was published. And it put Indiana above Purdue. It also had the service academies above many P5 schools. So there’s not a lot of credibility there.

Purdue has transformed its program in the last year. To the point, it’s probably take one of those top 15 schools going after him. I don’t see much chance for change there or the next 10ish schools.

Then you get into that UNC/Arkansas/Mississippi group. You really think he’s running off to that group from Purdue? I just don’t buy it.
I agree that Purdue isn't 70th, but that shows you the job isn't as highly regarded as you are saying it is. I think we should note that you've expanded your list already from an 'Alabama type school' (of which there are just a couple) to 'top 15 schools'.

In terms of leaving Purdue for UNC/Arkansas/Mississippi.....UNC is a step down, I agree. Arkansas and Mississippi would be pretty lateral moves, IMO. Arkansas has been known to overpay for a coach but their last hire actually is making less than their previous coach.

One site I've seen that ranks coach's contract (factoring in base pay, fringe benefits, length of contract, buyout, and other perks) had Brohm's contract ranked 41st in D1. Note there were some contract extensions not figured in yet (conversely, there some coach's that also had been fired that weren't removed yet), but Brohm's was.

Have to keep in mind that there will always be some teams that may be laterally to a slight upgrade that will throw money at a coach. Jimbo Fisher is getting $75 million over 10 years by Texas A&M after wearing out his welcome at Florida State.
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Is it Sept yet? Let's play some football!!
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