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| dçamden03 | Feb 26 2008, 03:28 PM Post #61 |
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IU will be back. But by that point, I think Purdue will have every bit as a chance that IU has at getting top level kids from the state. You don't see Purdue as elite, but in the 80s and 90s they were a top 15 or top 20 program year in and year out. Its not a national contender, win national championships, make Final Fours every other year, but then again IU hasn't been that in 20+ years either. You will always have a negative opinion on Purdue, and I could care less, I've grown up around a bunch of IU fans, but I will always argue my stance and present facts and trends. As an IU fan, I expect you to write off last season's recruiting class as a fluke and only a result of what was going on at IU, but it doesn't make it any less ignorant. I'm just warning you, Purdue is here and is going to be here and isn't going anywhere for the next few years. If we turn that into a recruiting surge, which we have a good start on, then this may be a 10-20 year thing that you will need to get used to. IU will be fine and will be winning, but don't expect to just be able to roll over Purdue and don't be surprised if we hand your asses to ya more often than not. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| BoilerTheFU | Feb 26 2008, 03:29 PM Post #62 |
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Was UCLA a "elite" program before Wooden? How about KU before Rupp? MSU before Izzo? Come on your logic is saying that because a team is not an elite program they can not return to being an elite program.... how do you become one in the first place? |
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| I.U.P.A.C. | Feb 26 2008, 03:32 PM Post #63 |
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There's only 1 elite program allowed per state. Sorry Purdue fans! |
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| BoilerTheFU | Feb 26 2008, 03:33 PM Post #64 |
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Bullshit, UNC, Duke... are like 8 miles apart... |
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| dçamden03 | Feb 26 2008, 03:40 PM Post #65 |
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Good thing IU hasn't been elite in over two decades and can allow Purdue to move on up! |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| I.U.P.A.C. | Feb 26 2008, 03:52 PM Post #66 |
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| blak_rob0 | Feb 26 2008, 04:04 PM Post #67 |
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Comparing RObinson to Gordon is a joke. That is like the Purdue fan that said Calassan is compared to White but maybe even worse! Robinson would have dominated in the NBA if it wasn't for injuries. |
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| blak_rob0 | Feb 26 2008, 04:08 PM Post #68 |
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I will agree with you that Gordon's defense is very underrated. Purdue stil wouldn't want him on the team because he wouldn't fit into the motion offense that Purdue runs. If he took as many threes as he does at IU here at Purdue then people would go crazy. Don't get me wrong he is a good player but doesn't fit into the system. That is why coaches recruit different type of players is for their type of team. |
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| I.U.P.A.C. | Feb 26 2008, 04:31 PM Post #69 |
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He would fit fine in your offense. Sampson gave him free reign to do whatever. Now you are sounding like you think he's dumb and he couldn't be coached. |
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| blak_rob0 | Feb 26 2008, 04:33 PM Post #70 |
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No that is the thing. Painter wouldn't give him free reign. He would make him work with teammates to get open shots. I'm sure you probably haven't watch Purdue that much but they never have just one guy going one on one unless they run a ball screen for Crump in which I hate that offense. |
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| I.U.P.A.C. | Feb 26 2008, 04:40 PM Post #71 |
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That's what I'm saying. If he was in Painter's system he would probaly be playing the way Painter wanted him to or he'd be on the bench. The things you are criticizing EJ for is because Sampson let him/encouraged him to play that way. I believe he would do just fine in other systems/sets. |
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| blak_rob0 | Feb 26 2008, 04:42 PM Post #72 |
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Well I agree with the part that he would play Painter's system or sit, but I don't think Gordon would be good in that system. He is a better one on one player. Plus I don't know the kid or anything but it seems like he would be selfish and force too much. |
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| dçamden03 | Feb 26 2008, 05:06 PM Post #73 |
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He never works too hard off the ball. And the next time he sets up a pick will be the first time I think. I don't think his game translates to our offense, I don't think his style of play would work. If he isn't getting the ball, he wouldn't be happy and there are times in the motion offense where a player or two won't get their touches for awhile. Painter didn't recruit him for a reason. He is a great player, but he didn't fit into our needs and system. Not every player fits into every system. Most IU fans think the world of Gordon which is fine, but that doesn't mean that everybody else has to think he would fit on their team and would be a huge difference maker. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| Unbiased | Feb 26 2008, 05:10 PM Post #74 |
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he didn't recruit Gordon because Porkchop knew he had no prayer in hell of getting him. |
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| dçamden03 | Feb 26 2008, 05:12 PM Post #75 |
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Didn't see that response coming...... He would have at least thrown a scholarship offer out there. Hell, he have one out to DeShaun Thomas, but I doubt we pursue him at all. But then again, he was committed to another school for about the entire time Painter was there so why would he recruit him? |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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