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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"? [/QUOTE]
All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO. [/QUOTE]
I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.
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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program. [/QUOTE]
I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know. [/QUOTE]
sure you have. all at the tender age of 20. :lol:

when are you studying for your CFP?
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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know.

sure you have. all at the tender age of 20. :lol:

when are you studying for your CFP? [/QUOTE]
21 almost 22. When I graduate next spring, I'll take the CPF test that summer if my job requires it. The company I'm interning at may offer and I don't know exactly what I'll be doing as they do work in a lot of different fields so it all depends. So it all depends on what I want to do when I graduate and what job offers I'm looking at.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know.

sure you have. all at the tender age of 20. :lol:

when are you studying for your CFP?

21 almost 22. When I graduate next spring, I'll take the CPF test that summer if my job requires it. The company I'm interning at may offer and I don't know exactly what I'll be doing as they do work in a lot of different fields so it all depends. So it all depends on what I want to do when I graduate and what job offers I'm looking at. [/QUOTE]
go interview with Oxford
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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know.

sure you have. all at the tender age of 20. :lol:

when are you studying for your CFP?

21 almost 22. When I graduate next spring, I'll take the CPF test that summer if my job requires it. The company I'm interning at may offer and I don't know exactly what I'll be doing as they do work in a lot of different fields so it all depends. So it all depends on what I want to do when I graduate and what job offers I'm looking at.

go interview with Oxford [/QUOTE]
I'm interning at Northwestern Mutual starting within the next month or so. Its the first one I applied to and got accepted within a week, so I'm doing that through the summer. It all depends on how I like it and what opportunities that I see. I don't really want to be selling Life Insurance and Disability Insurance my whole life, but we shall see.

Oxford definitely looks more of what I'm looking to get into. But who knows, I don't even know where I want to work right now. I know they have an Indianapolis office, where else are they located?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know.

sure you have. all at the tender age of 20. :lol:

when are you studying for your CFP?

21 almost 22. When I graduate next spring, I'll take the CPF test that summer if my job requires it. The company I'm interning at may offer and I don't know exactly what I'll be doing as they do work in a lot of different fields so it all depends. So it all depends on what I want to do when I graduate and what job offers I'm looking at.

go interview with Oxford

I'm interning at Northwestern Mutual starting within the next month or so. Its the first one I applied to and got accepted within a week, so I'm doing that through the summer. It all depends on how I like it and what opportunities that I see. I don't really want to be selling Life Insurance and Disability Insurance my whole life, but we shall see.

Oxford definitely looks more of what I'm looking to get into. But who knows, I don't even know where I want to work right now. I know they have an Indianapolis office, where else are they located? [/QUOTE]
I believe they have offices in a few states.


Founder is an IU grad. He'll find some quality grunt work for you down in the basement...
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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program. [/QUOTE]
Last year was a good season as well, I remember you specifically saying that Purdue would not make it any further in the Tourney than IU, yet we gave the eventual National champions there hardest game of the tourney.
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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

Last year was a good season as well, I remember you specifically saying that Purdue would not make it any further in the Tourney than IU, yet we gave the eventual National champions there hardest game of the tourney. [/QUOTE]
huh? Butler had Florida on the ropes.


and funny how you NEVER hear IU fans talk up how "tight" or "tough" they played UCLA - game was tied with 30 seconds to go. tigher game than turdue played Florida.

who cares - both lost. but at turdue they hang moral victory banners
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You are done because you will have a HUGE hole to fill every season and have to replace it with a one and done or else you are going to drop off from the season before. Just look at the last two classes, one 5 star with a bunch of role players around them. If you can get the star to stick around, thats good, but when he leaves, it creates HUGE holes that must be replaced. With high quality players who stick around, you have less holes to fill from year to year and can create stability and sustained success.

we've had 1 one and done player...how does that make us "Done"?

All I'm saying is that if it starts to become a trend, which it has recently, it creates holes that are hard to fill. Look at Ohio State this year or even Florida who had players leave early, it creates massive holes that young players cannot fill. It leaves a young team with players who never got a chance to develop and is not good for program stability. You have to recruit out of your mind to fill those holes, and that is something that Indiana University cannot do at this point in time. But winning games now is all that worries most people, but it will end up killing the future IMO.

I love turdue fans - I really do.

Afterall, they have their first good basketball season this decade and they are all of a sudden experts on building a program.

I watch more basketball than just Purdue. I've forgotten more about basketball than you will ever imagine to know.

sure you have. all at the tender age of 20. :lol:

when are you studying for your CFP?

21 almost 22. When I graduate next spring, I'll take the CPF test that summer if my job requires it. The company I'm interning at may offer and I don't know exactly what I'll be doing as they do work in a lot of different fields so it all depends. So it all depends on what I want to do when I graduate and what job offers I'm looking at.

go interview with Oxford

I'm interning at Northwestern Mutual starting within the next month or so. Its the first one I applied to and got accepted within a week, so I'm doing that through the summer. It all depends on how I like it and what opportunities that I see. I don't really want to be selling Life Insurance and Disability Insurance my whole life, but we shall see.

Oxford definitely looks more of what I'm looking to get into. But who knows, I don't even know where I want to work right now. I know they have an Indianapolis office, where else are they located?

I believe they have offices in a few states.


Founder is an IU grad. He'll find some quality grunt work for you down in the basement... [/QUOTE]
Hahaha, of course.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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