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question about Crean and his recruiting
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tyler8186 Apr 1 2008, 11:34 PM Post #1
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He employs guard heavy lineups, and even if players decide to transfer with him, no bigs will come.
his tallest 2 players 6-10 and 6-9 were seniors.
The Marquette fans seem to dislike his lack of recruiting big men, they say he can't.
Will that be a problem at indiana?

I understand IU has an abundance of instate talent, but do you think he'll be able to lure the 6-11, 7ft C and 6-10 power forwards that the Hoosiers need to compete in the big ten with? Or do we need those tall players at all to compete for titles under his system?
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i hope he gets us some bigs. i know he's guard oriented, but the big 10 takes a mix of both. i've never understood why we've been thin down low for so long now.
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He employs guard heavy lineups, and even if players decide to transfer with him, no bigs will come.
his tallest 2 players 6-10 and 6-9 were seniors.
The Marquette fans seem to dislike his lack of recruiting big men, they say he can't.
Will that be a problem at indiana?

I understand IU has an abundance of instate talent, but do you think he'll be able to lure the 6-11, 7ft C and 6-10 power forwards that the Hoosiers need to compete in the big ten with? Or do we need those tall players at all to compete for titles under his system?

while ive never known tom to get bodies that are able to bang down low, he does get big bodies that can really run and shoot the ball. you guys have to understand his style of play...its my favorite kind...ball hawking defense that forces turnovers, and then running the other team ragged with fast break points or a flurry of motion if we get cut off at the pass. if we can clog the passing lanes effectively, we will cause a lot of turnovers with smaller, quicker guards that will allow us to take off and beat other slower Big 10 teams down the court for easy baskets. This is something that both "He Whos Name Shall Not Be Spoken" and Davis were incapable of understanding.
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Apr 1 2008, 11:34 PM
He employs guard heavy lineups, and even if players decide to transfer with him, no bigs will come.
his tallest 2 players 6-10 and 6-9 were seniors.
The Marquette fans seem to dislike his lack of recruiting big men, they say he can't.
Will that be a problem at indiana?

I understand IU has an abundance of instate talent, but do you think he'll be able to lure  the 6-11, 7ft C and 6-10 power forwards that the Hoosiers need to compete in the big ten with?  Or do we need those tall players at all to compete for titles under his system?

while ive never known tom to get bodies that are able to bang down low, he does get big bodies that can really run and shoot the ball. you guys have to understand his style of play...its my favorite kind...ball hawking defense that forces turnovers, and then running the other team ragged with fast break points or a flurry of motion if we get cut off at the pass. if we can clog the passing lanes effectively, we will cause a lot of turnovers with smaller, quicker guards that will allow us to take off and beat other slower Big 10 teams down the court for easy baskets. This is something that both "He Whos Name Shall Not Be Spoken" and Davis were incapable of understanding.

Fallen! you and I agree on something..

maybe this is a sign of the re-uniting of Hoosier Nation??


oh, and i love the harry potter reference to "it"
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He employs guard heavy lineups, and even if players decide to transfer with him, no bigs will come.
his tallest 2 players 6-10 and 6-9 were seniors.
The Marquette fans seem to dislike his lack of recruiting big men, they say he can't.
Will that be a problem at indiana?

I understand IU has an abundance of instate talent, but do you think he'll be able to lure the 6-11, 7ft C and 6-10 power forwards that the Hoosiers need to compete in the big ten with? Or do we need those tall players at all to compete for titles under his system?

I'd be more worried about his recruiting as a whole, not just his recruiting of big men. His guards haven't really improved at the rate that one would think that they would.

Solid coach, but can he get to that "next level"? Thats going to be the big question.
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Apr 1 2008, 11:34 PM
He employs guard heavy lineups, and even if players decide to transfer with him, no bigs will come.
his tallest 2 players 6-10 and 6-9 were seniors.
The Marquette fans seem to dislike his lack of recruiting big men, they say he can't.
Will that be a problem at indiana?

I understand IU has an abundance of instate talent, but do you think he'll be able to lure  the 6-11, 7ft C and 6-10 power forwards that the Hoosiers need to compete in the big ten with?  Or do we need those tall players at all to compete for titles under his system?

while ive never known tom to get bodies that are able to bang down low, he does get big bodies that can really run and shoot the ball. you guys have to understand his style of play...its my favorite kind...ball hawking defense that forces turnovers, and then running the other team ragged with fast break points or a flurry of motion if we get cut off at the pass. if we can clog the passing lanes effectively, we will cause a lot of turnovers with smaller, quicker guards that will allow us to take off and beat other slower Big 10 teams down the court for easy baskets. This is something that both "He Whos Name Shall Not Be Spoken" and Davis were incapable of understanding.

Fallen! you and I agree on something..

maybe this is a sign of the re-uniting of Hoosier Nation??


oh, and i love the harry potter reference to "it"

A) Whats not to agree with me about!!!!

B) I love Harry Potter. I thought it was going to be stupid when it came out all those years ago but my twin boy and girl were very young then and of course they got into it, so when I took them to see it, I kind of got into it too. I love the irony of applying novel and movie themes to real life.

people should be excited about Crean. all of my buddies from my days at IU in the late 70's are very happy with it, and so is my father in law who is probably the biggest IU fan alive. however, ive yet to see any quotes from former players and what they think about the hire save Isiah Thomas. Thomas said Crean is an awesome choice and he will do whatever he can to support him. i think we got our guy, defenitely.
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even though isiah is a nut job, and a terrible coach; he still has a phat pocketbook -- and nice rolodex too.
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And a pretty sweet lawsuit, as well. Rockin'.
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And a pretty sweet lawsuit, as well. Rockin'.

haha, yeah, and sweet quote too.. who else has said that only black people can use the word "bitch"

Jurors heard the Knicks coach say he wouldn't stand for a white man calling a black woman a "bitch" - but wouldn't be as angry if the same words came from the mouth of a black man.

Asked if he was bothered by a black man calling a black female "bitch," Thomas said: "Not as much. I'm sorry to say, I do make a distinction.

"A white male calling a black female a bitch is highly offensive," Thomas said. "That would have violated my code of conduct."
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Apr 2 2008, 12:34 AM
He employs guard heavy lineups, and even if players decide to transfer with him, no bigs will come.
his tallest 2 players 6-10 and 6-9 were seniors.
The Marquette fans seem to dislike his lack of recruiting big men, they say he can't.
Will that be a problem at indiana?

I understand IU has an abundance of instate talent, but do you think he'll be able to lure  the 6-11, 7ft C and 6-10 power forwards that the Hoosiers need to compete in the big ten with?  Or do we need those tall players at all to compete for titles under his system?

I'd be more worried about his recruiting as a whole, not just his recruiting of big men. His guards haven't really improved at the rate that one would think that they would.

Solid coach, but can he get to that "next level"? Thats going to be the big question.

Cam for someone not trying to rain on anyones parade, I have sure seen a lot of negativity out of you regarding this hire. Sounds to me like someone is worried that in a few years IU will be back on top - where they rightfully belong. :D

Bottom line - Crean will be able to recruit better players at IU than he could at Marquette. The top players want to play at schools where they will get a lot of exposure. IU when it is good gets as much exposure as anyone. Add to that the fact that he plays a style of ball that players like to play, abd the fact that he promotes a family atmosphere, and you have the neccassary ingredients of good recruiting.

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Finally....Someone said what I believe everyone was thinking about Cam.....
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