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Who's The Better Coach?; Crean or Painter?
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BoilerTheFU Apr 3 2008, 07:44 PM Post #61
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Indiana wiped the slate clean of that cheating bastard and should have done it sooner.  As much as other programs laughed and still want us to fail, the fact is, it's over.

IU grabbed the bull by the balls and did what they should have done in 2000 instead of letting the players decide what was best and throwing us into the Donkey Era.  Still unbelievable at times, but it did happen.

It may be a couple of years, but Indiana is already  on the right track and will be back to power status before you know it.

History is history. If you want to claim Knight's success as your own, you are going to have to claim Sampson's cheating and lying as your own. You can't just wipe it clean and act like everything is back to normal.

Sampson left a scar on this program, just like Sutton left a scar on UK's program. No matter who you blame, Indiana University still employed a known cheater and it will be on Indiana University and its basketball program forever.

Sampson left a scar on this program, no doubt. Your hatred of the program is still not the IU's fan's fault, no matter how much you want it to be. Same goes for who the University hires and who it doesn't hire.

Do we accept success and failures? Of course we do, because of an inadequate administration and one sole cheater, it opened the door for lesser programs like yours to take shots and have fun at it.

Go ahead and take shots, it's ok, we're used to it. It stings alot less when you have 5 titles to cushion the blow, and it means a whole lot less coming from a program that has essentially no history at all.

When North Carolina fans, Duke fans, or Kentucky fans take a jab, you can actually feel it.

Can any IU fan talk about anything but titles? That is pretty much all you got...

5 titles....... check
Broken program........check
Blatant homerism.......check
Incoming NCAA sanctions....... check
Insecurity that allows for only "elite" fans' schools to judge them...... check
Less BTC than Purdue.....check


Guess your bags are packed.... who is the lessor program now? Go ahead and tell me all about 4 years ahead IU team, why not talk about next years?

You guys said all this same exact savior shit when Sampson was hired. In fact I recall a bunch of posts saying how his speech was amazing and he was going to take IU to the National Championship. I also know I had a good time laughing at it all in hindsight. Go ahead and get Ebanks seems like those one and dones have worked out for you guys well. Go ask Knight what he thinks about one and dones and the stupid NBA rule.


Its this very fucking "well we are IU so we are the fucking greatest and deserve the best" cocky ass attitude that makes people dislike IU. Right here in this post you made you called Purdue a lessor program, posters continue on this board to say how Crean will stop painter in recruiting and coaching, hell some even say Sampson did. If only you could take off the Crimson and Cream glasses and look at yourselfes you may realize who the joke is on. But go ahead and keep those glasses on, as they will be your only protection while a School with "no history" is currently and continues to make history right in your faces.

So we should worry about next year and NOT try to keep Ebanks???? That makes alot of fucking sense! Since our program is so crippled, does it matter if he is one and done?

What a total douche bag you are! Maybe put a little more thought into your stupid ass posts!

Your a fucking idiot here is why!

I said go ahead and get EBanks, I mean the kid who has transfered because of problems a bunch of times seems like a perfect fit at a struggling to regain itself program.

How does a one and done help your program? Instant help at his position maybe a go to scorer in tough games? Everyone saw how ineffective Gordon was after he stooped getting NBA-esk foul calls. He became just a really athletic kid that made a lot of stupid shots.

How does he hurt? In the long run, position has to be filled that next year and if not leaves a huge gap in the next years roster and does not really contribute to the team. Takes away a scholarship that could be used for some 4 year student athlete.

Its cool you guys got a good coach and are moving to the right track but all this talk about how Crean is the next Mecca coach just because IU picked him is bull, let him prove himself and shut up. If he keeps Ebanks and Holloway good for him, I think it will be hard to accomplish with NCAA sanctions coming most probably a post season ban. But it would be a head start on what he would have to accomplish without them. This whole ordeal will hurt your recruiting in the future as well as kids getting kicked off the team (right reason or not).

Who wants to be one and done and not play in the NCAA tourney?
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purdue is making history with..


the ugliest girls in the history of college?
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What a total douche bag you are! Maybe put a little more thought into your stupid ass posts!

Coming from the clown who said he liked UB better than other posters because he "roots for a actual team" or some crap like that.

The blatant IU ass fucked thought process shit I am talking about above...
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purdue is making history with..


the ugliest girls in the history of college?

Purdue #38
Indiana #43


Enough With the Hot Girl Shit
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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no one is making you read it!!
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purdue is making history with..


the ugliest girls in the history of college?

Purdue #38
Indiana #43


Enough With the Hot Girl Shit

lol. i was trying to make it fun.. we were playmate school of the year -- so there really isn't a competition.
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the Sampson influence isn't gone yet.  His cheating maybe, but the consequences no.

I agree with this Ben, and I honestly don't mean any disrepect to anyone, but I if some posters want to take jabs, I'm going to jab back.

You guys knock us for living in the past and admiring our titles, yet the haters can't let Sampson and what he did go. If you wanna hate, that's fine, but expect it in return.

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If you can still get Ebanks and Holloway then by all means. Although I don't know if Crean will want them. I was reading some of the Hoosier's Insider about Crean and something he said about recruits. He takes a lot of pride in graduating players, or at least that's what I picked up on. He also seems patient. He knows that to have a successful program, he doesn't have to have a success next year. I think his sights are all on the long term, and that may not be much fun for you guys next year, but I'm sure you'll appreciate it in the long run. This guy seems to be a perfect fit for IU and the Big Ten. Despite what anybody says about the Big Ten, we are not the SEC. We believe in being academic institutions of the highest caliber and that translates to our athletics as well. It just boggles my mind that Sampson was ever hired at IU. Things will be better. Will they be 'Hang another banner' better like some of you are saying? I doubt it, and if it does happen, it will be in the next ten years, not the next five. There will be a lot more competition in the years to come as well. Minnesota is rebuilding there program, and Michigan is as well. Illinois just had an off year. Things will be much more competitive next year. B)
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the Sampson influence isn't gone yet.  His cheating maybe, but the consequences no.

I agree with this Ben, and I honestly don't mean any disrepect to anyone, but I if some posters want to take jabs, I'm going to jab back.

You guys knock us for living in the past and admiring our titles, yet the haters can't let Sampson and what he did go. If you wanna hate, that's fine, but expect it in return.

jaz,
...you're fuckin ON tonight brother! HELL YEAH!!! :devil:

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If you are going to bring titles into every single argument, then I will sure as hell bring Sampson into every one of mine against the IU faithful.

I can't go to a gun fight with a knife can I?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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Really, I need to stay neutral, and I try to do my best.

I hate Purdue just as much as Purdue fans (some) hate Indiana, but I don't post it in every thread, it starts to look obsessive. I would rather read a 'hate' post that contains facts instead of opinions, at least I can take something away from it.

It happens on both sides, of course, and if it didn't, I guess it wouldn't be a rivalry.

Seriously, this place is here for fun, if a few people want to bash it out, go ahead, I really have to take myself out of the middle.

I like each and everyone of you guys, we all wouldn't be here if we didn't have the same interest.
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the Sampson influence isn't gone yet.  His cheating maybe, but the consequences no.

I agree with this Ben, and I honestly don't mean any disrepect to anyone, but I if some posters want to take jabs, I'm going to jab back.

You guys knock us for living in the past and admiring our titles, yet the haters can't let Sampson and what he did go. If you wanna hate, that's fine, but expect it in return.

jaz,
...you're fuckin ON tonight brother! HELL YEAH!!! :devil:

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If you are going to bring titles into every single argument, then I will sure as hell bring Sampson into every one of mine against the IU faithful.

I can't go to a gun fight with a knife can I?

Well you should know by now that the banners are brought into every argument.
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Really, I need to stay neutral, and I try to do my best.

I hate Purdue just as much as Purdue fans (some) hate Indiana, but I don't post it in every thread, it starts to look obsessive. I would rather read a 'hate' post that contains facts instead of opinions, at least I can take something away from it.

It happens on both sides, of course, and if it didn't, I guess it wouldn't be a rivalry.

Seriously, this place is here for fun, if a few people want to bash it out, go ahead, I really have to take myself out of the middle.

I like each and everyone of you guys, we all wouldn't be here if we didn't have the same interest.

Well I think that there is a lot of common ground that we can have too. Crean at IU is good for IU and Purdue because it will help the rivalry and help the Big Ten. As much as we have a rivalry, the success of both of our programs is good for both of us. I think the only thing that has some of the Purdue fans a little pissed is that as soon as Crean was hired, the bull shit started flying about how another banner would soon be hanging in Assembly Hall. But seriously I was glad to hear about the Crean move, and I think most rational Purdue fans would agree. It was easier to make fun of you guys when you had Sampson, but we'll survive with less material to work with. :D
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Really, I need to stay neutral, and I try to do my best. 

I hate Purdue just as much as Purdue fans (some) hate Indiana, but I don't post it in every thread, it starts to look obsessive.  I would rather read a 'hate' post that contains facts instead of opinions, at least I can take something away from it.

It happens on both sides, of course, and if it didn't, I guess it wouldn't be a rivalry. 

Seriously, this place is here for fun, if a few people want to bash it out, go ahead, I really have to take myself out of the middle. 

I like each and everyone of you guys, we all wouldn't be here if we didn't have  the same interest.

Well I think that there is a lot of common ground that we can have too. Crean at IU is good for IU and Purdue because it will help the rivalry and help the Big Ten. As much as we have a rivalry, the success of both of our programs is good for both of us. I think the only thing that has some of the Purdue fans a little pissed is that as soon as Crean was hired, the bull shit started flying about how another banner would soon be hanging in Assembly Hall. But seriously I was glad to hear about the Crean move, and I think most rational Purdue fans would agree. It was easier to make fun of you guys when you had Sampson, but we'll survive with less material to work with. :D

I should just make that my new sig.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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Really, I need to stay neutral, and I try to do my best. 

I hate Purdue just as much as Purdue fans (some) hate Indiana, but I don't post it in every thread, it starts to look obsessive.  I would rather read a 'hate' post that contains facts instead of opinions, at least I can take something away from it.

It happens on both sides, of course, and if it didn't, I guess it wouldn't be a rivalry. 

Seriously, this place is here for fun, if a few people want to bash it out, go ahead, I really have to take myself out of the middle. 

I like each and everyone of you guys, we all wouldn't be here if we didn't have  the same interest.

i was just about to create a thread saying basically the same thing...

...the contrasting opinions between IU and PU on this board are what makes it so great...i hate only seeing one side of any argument, it's fucking completely boring and will eventually make you an ignorant person...

...i too really enjoy everyone here and hope that no one takes anything personally...if there are certain posters that want to constantly bash, then let them be ignorant jackasses...

:cheers: here's to keeping this board together just the way it is...

...I FUCKIN LOVE IT HERE!!!
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Really, I need to stay neutral, and I try to do my best. 

I hate Purdue just as much as Purdue fans (some) hate Indiana, but I don't post it in every thread, it starts to look obsessive.  I would rather read a 'hate' post that contains facts instead of opinions, at least I can take something away from it.

It happens on both sides, of course, and if it didn't, I guess it wouldn't be a rivalry. 

Seriously, this place is here for fun, if a few people want to bash it out, go ahead, I really have to take myself out of the middle. 

I like each and everyone of you guys, we all wouldn't be here if we didn't have  the same interest.

Well I think that there is a lot of common ground that we can have too. Crean at IU is good for IU and Purdue because it will help the rivalry and help the Big Ten. As much as we have a rivalry, the success of both of our programs is good for both of us. I think the only thing that has some of the Purdue fans a little pissed is that as soon as Crean was hired, the bull shit started flying about how another banner would soon be hanging in Assembly Hall. But seriously I was glad to hear about the Crean move, and I think most rational Purdue fans would agree. It was easier to make fun of you guys when you had Sampson, but we'll survive with less material to work with. :D

You know, when it's all broken down, it's really the fans that suffer, no matter what program you pull for. Most of us on this board, Purdue fans and Indiana fans, are probably from Indiana, at least that would be my guess.

At some point in your life you choose to pull for a certain school, and most people stick with them their whole lives. Either because you went there or just the simple fact that you grew up in Indiana and one of the schools appealed to you at probably a young age.

Growing up an Indiana fan, I've never liked Purdue. I couldn't wait to play them and prayed we would destroy them beyond recognition. But until I started posting on a message board, I never realized how much hate some fans can have toward one another, or the opposing school just in general. I mean, to me, it doesn't really make sense. What the fuck does Joe Random, on a message board, have to do with the program or the team? How fucking ridiculous is it to get caught up in bashing someone you don't even know because they like a different team than you do?

I'll admit I've done it, but most of what I've done has been in retaliation, rather than directed at a certain program or poster. Not once did I troll on the Purdue boards, like I said, that part of posting just never made sense to me.

Believe me, I can bash with the best of them if I wanted to, but read some of those types of posts and tell me how fucking silly some of them look.

Really, it gets old.



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