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| eelbor | May 7 2008, 10:31 AM Post #16 |
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Truth? I have no doubt there are racist blacks. There are racist whites. There are racist Chinese. Anytime you start to with the "well they are more racist than we are" crap, you paint yourself with the same brush. I am done with this topic. |
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| Mr Gray | May 7 2008, 10:33 AM Post #17 |
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I can agree with that. I wouldn't feel comfortable saying that "blacks are more racist that whites" as a generalization. I'm more concerned with the sad state where a president is chosen largely because of his color. That, if true, should concern everyone. |
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| sirbrianwilson | May 7 2008, 10:34 AM Post #18 |
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once you produce some evidence that shows that the color of obama's skin was the deciding, above and beyond, number one factor in why african americans cast their vote for obama, it's all speculation. in my opinion it's pretty demeaning, patronizing, and racist of you to make such a statement because it comes across as a weak attempt to devalue the opinions and individual thoughts of african americans. br |
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| Mr Gray | May 7 2008, 10:36 AM Post #19 |
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look at the numbers and use common sense Brian. I know that is unheard of in politics today, but give it a shot. |
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| sirbrianwilson | May 7 2008, 10:40 AM Post #20 |
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i don't work in the world of opinions. especially those that devalue the individual thought of a large percentage of the country. i'm sure you wouldn't like it if i came on here and voiced what i really thought about bible-thumping christians... br |
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| Mr Gray | May 7 2008, 10:46 AM Post #21 |
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your opinion is always welcome Brian, even if I don't agree. I don't like to be offended, and I am not trying to offend the black race. It just seems very obvious to me that they are voting largely on color with less emphasis being put on issues. It could be that they agree with him on issues as well, since a lot of black people are democrat, but when choosing between 2 candidates that are very similar, Hillary and Obama, why would black women be voting largely for Obama, given that the other choice shares a gender with them? |
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| hoosierinhogville | May 7 2008, 10:50 AM Post #22 |
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Here is the problem with your argument Aaron; you are really just assuming that the only and/or predominate factor in their voting choice is race. There is no way you can know this. It is not as if you are seeing large numbers of conservative black Republicans cross over and vote for Obama. That would be something you could point and cry racism. You are not seeing that though. Why? Because there aren't large numbers of conservative black republicans. You are basing your whole arguement on the fact that these people are voting for someone that they might well have voted for even if he was white, simply because he is a liberal democrat. |
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| sirbrianwilson | May 7 2008, 10:51 AM Post #23 |
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from my angle, it appears to me that you're the one being racist. i don't see many people coming on here saying, "conservatives are racist because they've never voted in at large for an african-american president." you're speaking as if this is the first time an african american has run for office. how quickly you forget about chisholm, sharpton, etc. if they were really that racist, don't you think they would have thrown their support at large for those candidates as well? if the megadittos had not of come out in indiana last night, we would have seen a landslide obama vote. that individual community's support for obama isn't far off from the rest of the nation. br |
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| hoosierinhogville | May 7 2008, 10:56 AM Post #24 |
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That is kinda the point though. They are voting with him on the issues as well. Does the fact that he is black play a part in their decision? Maybe-probably, but does that necessarily make them racist? To me it doesn't. Now if you find me a black person who is saying that the only person they would vote for was Barack because he is black, then yes, I would say that is racism. the thing is though, if he wasn't in the race, most of these black people would be voting for Hillary. SO how can they be voting for her and still be a racist? |
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| Mr Gray | May 7 2008, 10:56 AM Post #25 |
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um, Brian....."conservatives" are not a race of people, it is a political view. |
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| BoilerNLA | May 7 2008, 10:58 AM Post #26 |
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I heard that the Crayola 64 pack of Crayons used to have the color called "Flesh", and it was a pinkish beige color. So, I do think we have made SOME progress. ^_^ I guess when I look in the mirror, I look more like Obama than I do Hillary or McCain, just without the "suntan" |
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| Mr Gray | May 7 2008, 10:59 AM Post #27 |
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you're absolutely right, I have no proof whatsoever. It is just my opinion. Every single black person that I have talked to about it has said that they are voting for Obama, and when pressed on the issues, it has come down to him being black. I'm not going to say that the few that I have talked to represent the black race across the nation, but I am at least concerned that this is what is happening. Why else would black people be coming out to vote in such huge numbers this year....we have had liberal democrats with almost identical views to Obama running before. Where were they for Kerry? |
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| sirbrianwilson | May 7 2008, 11:00 AM Post #28 |
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you're right, but it's a means of categorizing people....quite a bullshit way as well, as i've repeatedly said on this board. would it be offensive or any different if i said, "born again christians display quite possibly the lowest form of political education in this country given that they make every effort to show no individual political thought. faith based politics is merely a way of expressing one's content to blindly follow whatever someone in a bunch of robes tells them every sunday."? br |
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| sirbrianwilson | May 7 2008, 11:02 AM Post #29 |
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given the history of african americans and indiana, i don't blame them. but in no way can you use indiana politics as a means for generalizing to the rest of the country. trust me, it's a LOT different outside of the midwest. br |
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| hoosierinhogville | May 7 2008, 11:23 AM Post #30 |
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They were there for Kerry. I know because I saw it first hand. Were they there in as large numbers as they are and will be for Obama in the fall? Probably not, but unlike you I don't think that makes them racist. |
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