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Coach Tom strikes again
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Bobobinc Aug 23 2008, 11:27 PM Post #1
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Matt Carlino

Another guard ? With so much in state talent in 2011 ? Gotta be kidding me. Who's recruiting Indiana better ?
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jdm3 Aug 23 2008, 11:30 PM Post #2
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thats odd, i played against him 2 years ago


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mongo Aug 24 2008, 12:16 AM Post #3
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Matt Carlino

Another guard ? With so much in state talent in 2011 ? Gotta be kidding me. Who's recruiting Indiana better ?
Your coach, who has been recruiting Indiana for what, almost five years, is recruiting the state better (currently anyway) than our coach who has been doing so for maybe five months. Congratulations...
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I'm guessing our tactics will be to smother teams with our speed :huh:

Hey, high rated talented guards... if they're from AZ and want to come to Indiana, fuck yes. That's what we want.

Now if we get anymore guards, then I'm going to be like "what the fuck". Until then, let the man do his thing. He knows what he's doing, he knows what hes got to do, and he knows the expectations hes been given.

He keeps bringing in all these great guards, I'm willing to bet one or two out of the batch becomes a bigtime star/player... Think of how much experience they get practicing against eachother. It's not something us IU fans are considered about Bob. He's getting paid over a Milli for a reason....... Sampson only got $750,000 ( 1zxgnc )

Calm yo bid
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Wow. And we don't even have a 2010 commit yet.

This is good news and there is defnitely a lot of in-state talent in the '11 class. I think Teague is in that class and he is every school's top priority. I'm not in agreement or disagreement with the signing. It's very early and who knows whether he really end up at IU. If he's a guy that Crean wants though, then I'm glad to have him. Supposed to be a top 50 player in his class so it's tough to argue against taking him even if he is a guard.
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I like this commitment. I've been reading over the past few months that this kid is one of the best guards in his class.
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Matt Carlino

Another guard ? With so much in state talent in 2011 ? Gotta be kidding me. Who's recruiting Indiana better ?
Your coach, who has been recruiting Indiana for what, almost five years, is recruiting the state better (currently anyway) than our coach who has been doing so for maybe five months. Congratulations...


Thank you.

It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of priorities. Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history. If that's where he wants to focus, no problem. We don't really know.

But I'm not the one on here complaining about a lack of bigs. I'm not the one on here talking about how Crean is going to dominate the state of Indiana. Not you Mongo, but others.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you sign NO ONE ELSE in 09 or 10 you've got 3 left for 2011 and that's before any possible NCAA reductions or APR hits. I assume Crean will sign someone in 09 and 10 so there's not going to be much left in 2011 and he uses it on Carlino. I know he's a nice player and could be very good. But with the limited schollys left, is he the priority ? I guess so.

I think it says something about where Crean wants to recruit when his first 2011 commit is 6'2" and from Arizona when the state of Indiana is loaded.
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Matt Carlino

Another guard ? With so much in state talent in 2011 ? Gotta be kidding me. Who's recruiting Indiana better ?
Your coach, who has been recruiting Indiana for what, almost five years, is recruiting the state better (currently anyway) than our coach who has been doing so for maybe five months. Congratulations...


Thank you.

It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of priorities. Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history. If that's where he wants to focus, no problem. We don't really know.

But I'm not the one on here complaining about a lack of bigs. I'm not the one on here talking about how Crean is going to dominate the state of Indiana. Not you Mongo, but others.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you sign NO ONE ELSE in 09 or 10 you've got 3 left for 2011 and that's before any possible NCAA reductions or APR hits. I assume Crean will sign someone in 09 and 10 so there's not going to be much left in 2011 and he uses it on Carlino. I know he's a nice player and could be very good. But with the limited schollys left, is he the priority ? I guess so.

I think it says something about where Crean wants to recruit when his first 2011 commit is 6'2" and from Arizona when the state of Indiana is loaded.
I didn't mean to come across as confrontational or anything. It was late and I was cranky.
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I see the future for us looking like this:
1. We'll get Watford this week
2. Then we'll focus on oversigning a big.
3. We'll go into this season with what we've got and Verdell Jones will eventually transfer after the year.
4. This year during the season we'll address the 2010 class and the two upcomming vacancies (This is where McLeod will pay dividends).
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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history.
So when it benefits the argument of a Purdue fan, IU's history actually means something, otherwise those 5 dusty old banners just appeared there out of nowhere and mean absolutely nothing. I've heard a million times how arrogant it is to claim the benefits our history and tradition, and to get out of that time machine before it explodes.

What has my personal motto been since the day he got hired? Tom Crean + Indiana = Success? Something like that..?

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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history


I can tell you this, Matt Painter has a window of about 2 or 3 years to get it done. He's a young, talented coach, but with the hiring of Crean at Indiana, I'm afraid Painter's days are numbered at the success level he's achieved over the last couple of years. Crean is not only going to recruit better nationally, (yes, because it's Indiana) he'll also recruit better in state. You guys call it arrogant, I call it facts.

I'm not singling any Purdue fans out, and especially not you Bobo, I like and respect most all of you, but the truth is the truth whether you like it or not.

Live with Indiana's Truth for the last couple of years, it's not always pretty.



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I see the future for us looking like this:
1. We'll get Watford this week
2. Then we'll focus on oversigning a big.
3. We'll go into this season with what we've got and Verdell Jones will eventually transfer after the year.
4. This year during the season we'll address the 2010 class and the two upcomming vacancies (This is where McLeod will pay dividends).
Why do you think Jones will transfer? Just wondering.
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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history.
So when it benefits the argument of a Purdue fan, IU's history actually means something, otherwise those 5 dusty old banners just appeared there out of nowhere and mean absolutely nothing. I've heard a million times how arrogant it is to claim the benefits our history and tradition, and to get out of that time machine before it explodes.

What has my personal motto been since the day he got hired? Tom Crean + Indiana = Success? Something like that..?

I'll quote you again:
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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history


I can tell you this, Matt Painter has a window of about 2 or 3 years to get it done. He's a young, talented coach, but with the hiring of Crean at Indiana, I'm afraid Painter's days are numbered at the success level he's achieved over the last couple of years. Crean is not only going to recruit better nationally, (yes, because it's Indiana) he'll also recruit better in state. You guys call it arrogant, I call it facts.

I'm not singling any Purdue fans out, and especially not you Bobo, I like and respect most all of you, but the truth is the truth whether you like it or not.

Live with Indiana's Truth for the last couple of years, it's not always pretty.



There are no facts about it because all this stuff you proclaim hasn't happened yet and as of now doesn't even seem to resemble the IU dominance that you are talking about.
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Jones transferring... tell me there isn't already this rumor bullshit starting?
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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history.
So when it benefits the argument of a Purdue fan, IU's history actually means something, otherwise those 5 dusty old banners just appeared there out of nowhere and mean absolutely nothing. I've heard a million times how arrogant it is to claim the benefits our history and tradition, and to get out of that time machine before it explodes.

What has my personal motto been since the day he got hired? Tom Crean + Indiana = Success? Something like that..?

I'll quote you again:
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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history


I can tell you this, Matt Painter has a window of about 2 or 3 years to get it done. He's a young, talented coach, but with the hiring of Crean at Indiana, I'm afraid Painter's days are numbered at the success level he's achieved over the last couple of years. Crean is not only going to recruit better nationally, (yes, because it's Indiana) he'll also recruit better in state. You guys call it arrogant, I call it facts.

I'm not singling any Purdue fans out, and especially not you Bobo, I like and respect most all of you, but the truth is the truth whether you like it or not.

Live with Indiana's Truth for the last couple of years, it's not always pretty.



Since you quoted me twice I won't repeat it again.

Speaking for myself, the earlier threads about "It's Indiana !" was simply saying it's not 1990 anymore. It's been more than two decades since the last NC. Bob Knight is gone. Combined with the recent coaching problems, saying "It's Indiana !" is not going to get it done anymore. That's not to say IU doesn't have any national recognition, of course it does. 5 banners will get you that. That's why I said it. I've always said it means something, just not everything. The program is going to have to get back to resembling the old one for IU to be able to pick and choose who it wants.

What I have realized (and I'm sure Painter did long ago) is that since Purdue doesn't have that kind of national recognition, we can't recruit nationally like others can. So he has decided to hit the state very hard, get the best kids we can, and build the program up to the point where we can get some national recruits.

There are no facts to prove that Crean will do better in state. As a matter of fact, I think the signing of Carlino shows that the state is not his emphasis. Painter is working the state HARD, establishing alot of relationships with coaches and programs. I think that work will pay off greatly when it comes to head to head recruiting with IU. Just my opinion.

You have a proud and storied program Jaz and it deserves better than what has happened. It's on it's way back and the sky's the limit. But just because Indiana is coming back doesn't mean Purdue will suffer because of it.

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Crean is not only going to recruit better nationally, (yes, because it's Indiana) he'll also recruit better in state. You guys call it arrogant, I call it facts.


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Crean can recruit more nationally than Painter because of IU's history


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There are no facts about it


Wow, talk about both ends of the spectrum. :blink:

I stand by my comments and predictions. I didn't say (and won't predict) that Indiana will ever be dominant under Tom Crean. I haven't seen a dominant team since the 1996 & 98 Kentucky teams, or the early 90's UNLV teams, or the mid 70's Indiana teams. THAT's what I consider "dominant". But I do believe he'll be very successful at Indiana due to the fact that he's a very good coach at an elite program.

Although shaky for the first couple of years, Indiana is in the best position we've been in since before Bobby completely lost his mind.
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