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| sirbrianwilson | Aug 31 2008, 07:05 PM Post #16 |
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| crveech | Aug 31 2008, 10:48 PM Post #17 |
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There were a lot of positives and negatives with this game, but you see that in season openers all the time. That's why BCS teams play cupcakes, so they can get the feel of the game and examine themselves while still gettng an easy win. Lewis played a hell of a game. WKU had no response to win he just would take that ball and zip for the endzone. But his receivers dropped too many passes. The offensive line again was not giving him a lot of protection, and most of the running game came from him. You had to enjoy IU's defense, though. Being a student at WKU, I know that Western has a tough running game, but IU completely shut it down most of the game. Tough defense will win you a lot of football games. |
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| mongo | Sep 1 2008, 09:46 AM Post #18 |
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Waiting for a Purdue fans response to that..............tumble weed. Edited by mongo, Sep 1 2008, 09:47 AM.
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| blak_rob0 | Sep 1 2008, 10:01 AM Post #19 |
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Here is the only post that will satisfy IU fans: Lewis is the best quarterback in the nation and will easily win Heisman. All Purdue fans should just kiss his ass now and beg for mercy because when IU plays Purdue, Purdue will stand no chance because of the soon to be overall 1st pick iin the NFL draft. After he beats Purdue, single handedly I am sure, he will go on to lead IU to the National Championship even though in all honesty IU is just another mediocre team that is going to finish close to last or maybe middle of the pack because of their weak ass schedule. |
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| dçamden03 | Sep 1 2008, 11:38 AM Post #20 |
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Lewis is a good Quarterback, no doubt. But you used combined stats with players that are required and asked to do different things. All of those other quarterbacks played on a team with another 1,000 yard rusher. There are only so many yards to go around. Certain players are required to do different things. Lewis would not be nearly as productive in offenses at Mizzou, BC, Kansas, OU, or many other places. Those offenses require the QB to throw the ball much more, and run much less. Stats are funny in that way, you can use them in funny ways. For your pleasure: Painter- 3826 yards, 32 TD 11 INTs |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| HoosierLars | Sep 1 2008, 04:13 PM Post #21 |
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Lewis is a great athlete, and will play on Sundays in a few years. |
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| dreachon | Sep 1 2008, 05:25 PM Post #22 |
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Cam, as you know I have mucho respect for Painter. Remember before the season I ranked him as the best QB in the Big Ten because I wasn't sure the team fully trusted Kellen yet. I didn't post those stats to prove Lewis was better than Painter, I posted them because Chops wasn't convinced Lewis is truly a good quarterback. I'm not sure how you can say Lewis wouldn't be as productive in those other team's offenses. I mean I can't say he would be as more or less productive, so I'm not sure how you could. Sure those offenses require the QB to pass more, but what else would the coach have them do? It's not like Todd Reesing or Sam Bradford or one of them could take off streaking down the field even if they wanted to. If Lewis was on one of those teams he might run less, but he would still run. A good coach adapts his offense to his player's abilities. With that said, yeah those teams have 1000 yard rushers. Doesn't that just make the QB's job easier? Teams can't focus on the pass or the run. Against IU, stop Lewis...end of story. Teams entire gameplans focus around him passing and trying to keep him in the pocket. Yet he is still successful. Since they are all on different teams I'm not sure of any other way to compare them than the stats. I'm just trying to point out this last year was Kellen Lewis's first full season as a starter and he put up some damn good numbers. No, we don't think he's going to win the hesiman or be #1 in the nfl draft or whatever Black_Robo said. But I do think it's safe to say if he were on a more high profile team, or IU had a more successful season he would get A LOT more recognition. |
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| blak_rob0 | Sep 1 2008, 05:49 PM Post #23 |
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I was being sarcstic in my post becuase all of the IU fans saying "where are all the Purdue fans at now". I think Lewis is a good quarterback and nobody said anything different on this thread. I don't know why that isn't good enough for you IU fans. It just seemed that you wanted every Purdue fan on the board to bow down to him. That is kind of the way it has been with Crean. You all say how he is doing a good job and the Purdue fans agree and wish you luck but then everyone continues to say where are all the Purdue fans with their negative comments and when Cam comes back all pissed off you wonder why. I am not trying to start anything just saying that IU fans should just take their little bit of success without flaunting it and basically begging Purdue fans to make those certain negative comments. |
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| dreachon | Sep 1 2008, 05:59 PM Post #24 |
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Hey Robo, let's not forget that the whole discussion about Lewis's abilities started with a Purdue fan. Everyone was posting according to the thread until Chops came in with his shots against Lewis. Chops knocked Lewis. I defended Lewis. IU posters said "where's the reply?" If people want to criticize him then expect us to defend him and if you want to praise him then expect us to agree. But don't criticize him, have us defend him, and then come on here complaining about us defending him. |
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| tAmazingHoosier0305 | Sep 1 2008, 06:51 PM Post #25 |
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dreach knows his shit with football a little bit huh? haha Rob, this is an IU dominant board... you're a PU fan, what do you expect to see here? :vag: |
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| dçamden03 | Sep 1 2008, 08:38 PM Post #26 |
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Great post, dreach. Yes, Lewis would still run, but there would be less designated runs because for as good as Lewis is at running, teams like OU or Mizzou have great running backs there that you have to get the ball in their hands, IU does not. He is and still would be a good QB in lots of different offenses, I just don't think being on a different team would really do much. To run offenses like OU's or Mizzou's, you have to be a very accurate and skilled passer, which I think is definitely his weakness (not bad at, just not strong at). I think he'd be a WR at most other schools, which is probably why he is at IU, where he is getting a chance to play QB and be productive. |
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves." "I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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| chops1221 | Sep 1 2008, 08:50 PM Post #27 |
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shots against lewis? all i said was that it wasn't certain he'd be able to compete against the best defenses. he didn't do it last year in 2 of the biggest games. i never said he wasn't a good qb. sheesh. |
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| blak_rob0 | Sep 1 2008, 08:52 PM Post #28 |
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Defend him all you want and as you should but then just leave it at that. Why does everyone need to drag it on and try to bait Purdue fans into making a negative comment and then bitch about it when they do? I am not going to argue the fact that Lewis is a great quarterback He is and dreach backed it up, congrats end of discussion. |
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| Old_School | Sep 1 2008, 09:39 PM Post #29 |
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Dreach is to football what Old_School (yes, I'm speaking in the third person) is to politics. B) |
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| Unbiased | Sep 2 2008, 07:48 AM Post #30 |
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put Amish boy painter behind IU's pathetic o-line and he wouldn't live to see game 5. Lewis is every bit as good or better than OSU's Troy Smith - how'd he do in the Heisman race again. Lewis is a duel threat to run the ball like an excellent running back and can throw it with good accuracy. Painter is a stooge with cement shoes on. |
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