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McCain suspending his campaign...; is this a good move?
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BigTenBigBen Sep 25 2008, 10:15 AM Post #16
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Actually I think it was a smart political move. He has to go back to Washington anyway, and his stance is going to be a big part of Republicans support. He comes off looking as a the Statesman, while it puts Obama in a bind. If Obama agrees he looks like he's following McCain's lead, and if he doesn't he looks like he's the partisan hack. Sure its political posturing, but that's part of the game.
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You guys just don't get it, and would prefer playing partisan politics.
No, I think you are the one that doesn't get it. Do you really believe that a man who admitted that he doesn't know as much about economics as he should is going to go to Washington to lead the Senate to a solution. Bullshit. How can you lead on something you know nothing about. MAYBE he is going back because he really wants to help. But wanting to help, and actually helping are two different things.
Completely agree. McCain helping in this situation is a joke. The only way he helps is that he gives the Republican party another 'Yes' in the case of Democratic opposition. That's it.
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You guys just don't get it, and would prefer playing partisan politics.
No, I think you are the one that doesn't get it. Do you really believe that a man who admitted that he doesn't know as much about economics as he should is going to go to Washington to lead the Senate to a solution. Bullshit. How can you lead on something you know nothing about. MAYBE he is going back because he really wants to help. But wanting to help, and actually helping are two different things.
Hog, that is the 2nd time you have made this comment, and I let the 1st one slide in hopes that you would rethink it. 75% of those guys & girls on capital hill don't "know much" about the economy. Most of the are lawyers, but NONE of them are economists, accountants, bankers, financial planners, or any other such occupation that qualifies then as an expert. They are, however, elected officials PAID to represent the citizens as major decisions are taking place that affect our lives. OF COURSE HE SHOULD BE INVOLVED....WHY IN THE HELL WOULD HE, OR ANYONE TURN THEIR BACK ON THEIR OBLIGATION? When senators and congressmen neglect their obligations, we the people lose our voice.

I realize that Obama has basically been campaigning for President during his entire Senate term, so perhaps he actually thinks that is his obligation, BUT IT ISN'T!!! Why you, or anyone, would bash McCain for doing his job, and give Obama a pass for never doing his....I don't know but it should stop.
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when was the last time McCain voted for anything in the Senate?
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Before we go bashing him some more I'd like to point out that Obama was not opposed to going to Washington and taking part in helping to solve the crisis. He was opposed, however, to postponing the debate, and I think his point is a valid one.

Don't we want to hear from the future President what he is going to do about the economy once he's in office? We all know the financial crisis won't be solved in a weekend, or a month, so we need to hear from the candidates about what they plan to do if elected.
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when was the last time McCain voted for anything in the Senate?
When's the last time the country faced a financial crisis that could rival '29? Trust me, LA won't be a good place to be if we suffer an economic collapse, and anarchy breaks out. It will make the Rodney King aftermath look like a day at Disneyland.
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Before we go bashing him some more I'd like to point out that Obama was not opposed to going to Washington and taking part in helping to solve the crisis. He was opposed, however, to postponing the debate, and I think his point is a valid one.

Don't we want to hear from the future President what he is going to do about the economy once he's in office? We all know the financial crisis won't be solved in a weekend, or a month, so we need to hear from the candidates about what they plan to do if elected.
Friday's debate is about foreign policy. And no, I don't want to see some staged debate where the objective is trying to score points with a couple of good soundbites. I want them to focus on their god damn jobs, and work out a reasonable bi-partisan solution.

Obama and the left will see this as a good opportunity to get socialized healthcare AND housing.
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Before we go bashing him some more I'd like to point out that Obama was not opposed to going to Washington and taking part in helping to solve the crisis. He was opposed, however, to postponing the debate, and I think his point is a valid one.

Don't we want to hear from the future President what he is going to do about the economy once he's in office? We all know the financial crisis won't be solved in a weekend, or a month, so we need to hear from the candidates about what they plan to do if elected.
Friday's debate is about foreign policy. And no, I don't want to see some staged debate where the objective is trying to score points with a couple of good soundbites. I want them to focus on their god damn jobs, and work out a reasonable bi-partisan solution.

Obama and the left will see this as a good opportunity to get socialized healthcare AND housing.
Hell, socialized medicine would have been cheap compared to the socialized banking we now face.
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when was the last time McCain voted for anything in the Senate?
When's the last time the country faced a financial crisis that could rival '29? Trust me, LA won't be a good place to be if we suffer an economic collapse, and anarchy breaks out. It will make the Rodney King aftermath look like a day at Disneyland.
well, I see, yet again, you didn't answer my question.

I have no fear about where I live here NLA, no matter what happens. I would much rather be here than in bum-fuck nowhere.
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...and could someone PLEASE tell McCain how to pronounce "Washington"... and Palin how to pronounce "Nuclear"...

I don't want to go thru 4 more years of this embarrassment.
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...and could someone PLEASE tell McCain how to pronounce "Washington"... and Palin how to pronounce "Nuclear"...

I don't want to go thru 4 more years of this embarrassment.
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when was the last time McCain voted for anything in the Senate?
When's the last time the country faced a financial crisis that could rival '29? Trust me, LA won't be a good place to be if we suffer an economic collapse, and anarchy breaks out. It will make the Rodney King aftermath look like a day at Disneyland.
well, I see, yet again, you didn't answer my question.

I have no fear about where I live here NLA, no matter what happens. I would much rather be here than in bum-fuck nowhere.
I don't know how much Obama and McCain have voted the last year, and frankly, I could care less. Normally, the less government does, the better.

bum-fuck will benefit from religion, guns, and their own food supply. High density metro areas will be the worst places to live.
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Before we go bashing him some more I'd like to point out that Obama was not opposed to going to Washington and taking part in helping to solve the crisis. He was opposed, however, to postponing the debate, and I think his point is a valid one.
Dreach, you're wrong on this one. obama was actually against going to washington for this issue, but changed his mind when Bush called him and requested that he and McCain be there.
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Before we go bashing him some more I'd like to point out that Obama was not opposed to going to Washington and taking part in helping to solve the crisis. He was opposed, however, to postponing the debate, and I think his point is a valid one.
Dreach, you're wrong on this one. obama was actually against going to washington for this issue, but changed his mind when Bush called him and requested that he and McCain be there.
When it comes to getting real work done, Obama's as useless as teets on a bull, with all due respect to bull teets.
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Hog, that is the 2nd time you have made this comment, and I let the 1st one slide in hopes that you would rethink it. 75% of those guys & girls on capital hill don't "know much" about the economy. Most of the are lawyers, but NONE of them are economists, accountants, bankers, financial planners, or any other such occupation that qualifies then as an expert.

I never said the other guys were experts. The point I am trying to make is that this is more of a political stunt than anything. Maybe I was clumsy in trying to make that point. If he was just going to go to Washington to help, then why did he feel the need to announce to the press that he was suspending his campaign in order to go the D.C. to help solve the crises. He could have just went. The press would follow him. The fact that he makes an announcement just shows that it is a ploy, trying to make himself look Presidential. The bill (or whatever you want to call it) is going to come through Dodd's banking and finance commitee. Neither McCain nor Obama will have any had in crafting it. All they will do is go to meetings, listen to what is being said, and at some point announce support or dissent.

The difference here is that it is McCain is trying to fool people into believing he is the main man on this thing.
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