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BoilerNLA Oct 1 2008, 10:57 AM Post #46
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God spoke to me last night, and told me to build another Arc.
I'm heading to Home Depot to buy some wood. But, I need your help! How do you tell the difference between a male and a female cock-roach? I don't want to screw up this "mission from God"! (like we did in Iraq)
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I'm not make a statement for or against abortion, but that's a ridiculous statement to make. I worship the Devil and one of the tenets of my faith is that I stab a small child in the eye once a week. Unfortunately, the government can't seem to separate itself from religion and has made a law against this. It's anti-American!

A person's religion is their decision and it's not a deal-breaker for a candidate. And I agree that whatever religion that is, its ideals shouldn't be instituted by the candidate into the government. Your example, however, is ludicrous to the point of absurdity.
Ok, Ok. I fess up. Very bad anaology! What can I say I was posting very quickly and didn't think it all the way through.

That said, I really do think we are treating the devil worshippers unfairly :D
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There is a lot of evidence for evolution and it is a widely-accepted theory in the scientific community.


Personally, I can't say I have a definite opinion one way or another on the existence of God, or a god (same thing for the sake of this argument). Science, however, does not have the best track record as a definitive vehicle for truth throughout history. Some of the widely-accepted theories in the history of science...

The earth is flat
Everything revolves around the earth
Every material that burns contains an element called (I think...) phylogen that is consumed in the burning process

This list could go on forever, as science is constantly rewriting all of the facts and theories it has put forth. Who knows what people are going to look back on 200 years ago and laugh at. I happen to be a big believer in science and the knowledge that can be gained from observation and experimentation, but an objective look at the history of science leads me to believe that it's not the end-all collection of answers to everything.
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There is a lot of evidence for evolution and it is a widely-accepted theory in the scientific community.


Personally, I can't say I have a definite opinion one way or another on the existence of God, or a god (same thing for the sake of this argument). Science, however, does not have the best track record as a definitive vehicle for truth throughout history. Some of the widely-accepted theories in the history of science...

The earth is flat
Everything revolves around the earth
Every material that burns contains an element called (I think...) phylogen that is consumed in the burning process

This list could go on forever, as science is constantly rewriting all of the facts and theories it has put forth. Who knows what people are going to look back on 200 years ago and laugh at. I happen to be a big believer in science and the knowledge that can be gained from observation and experimentation, but an objective look at the history of science leads me to believe that it's not the end-all collection of answers to everything.
I could be wrong, but I think people believed the earth was round because the Church said so and there really was no science to prove otherwise at the time. Without anything to prove the earth was round, there was no reason to think it was any other shape.

Same goes with everything revolving around the earth. Inability to prove otherwise leads to these theories.

In the meantime, there have been countless studies that support evolution on a very small scale. Obviously nothing that says apes turned to man or anything like that, but definitely proof that evolution takes place, even if it's minimal. At this point, I think even the Church acknowldges that evolution takes place, but only after G-d put all the species here. Am I correct on that?
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HoosierLars Oct 1 2008, 02:33 PM Post #50
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If we made abortion illegal, and my religion allows abortion, then I would not be able to practice my religious beliefs. And that is why we keep religion out of government.
This is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. It's even more asinine than some of the analogies Lars tries to dish up. :P
I need to come up with some super-tanker analogy for abortion...
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There is a lot of evidence for evolution and it is a widely-accepted theory in the scientific community.


Personally, I can't say I have a definite opinion one way or another on the existence of God, or a god (same thing for the sake of this argument). Science, however, does not have the best track record as a definitive vehicle for truth throughout history. Some of the widely-accepted theories in the history of science...

The earth is flat
Everything revolves around the earth
Every material that burns contains an element called (I think...) phylogen that is consumed in the burning process

This list could go on forever, as science is constantly rewriting all of the facts and theories it has put forth. Who knows what people are going to look back on 200 years ago and laugh at. I happen to be a big believer in science and the knowledge that can be gained from observation and experimentation, but an objective look at the history of science leads me to believe that it's not the end-all collection of answers to everything.
I could be wrong, but I think people believed the earth was round because the Church said so and there really was no science to prove otherwise at the time. Without anything to prove the earth was round, there was no reason to think it was any other shape.

Same goes with everything revolving around the earth. Inability to prove otherwise leads to these theories.

In the meantime, there have been countless studies that support evolution on a very small scale. Obviously nothing that says apes turned to man or anything like that, but definitely proof that evolution takes place, even if it's minimal. At this point, I think even the Church acknowldges that evolution takes place, but only after G-d put all the species here. Am I correct on that?
yes, you are mostly correct on that, even though many of the christian denominations have slightly different views of it, most feel that creation happened as God explained, and any "evolution" since then has been basic natural selection and adaptation, not Darwinian evolution.
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There is a lot of evidence for evolution and it is a widely-accepted theory in the scientific community.


Personally, I can't say I have a definite opinion one way or another on the existence of God, or a god (same thing for the sake of this argument). Science, however, does not have the best track record as a definitive vehicle for truth throughout history. Some of the widely-accepted theories in the history of science...

The earth is flat
Everything revolves around the earth
Every material that burns contains an element called (I think...) phylogen that is consumed in the burning process

This list could go on forever, as science is constantly rewriting all of the facts and theories it has put forth. Who knows what people are going to look back on 200 years ago and laugh at. I happen to be a big believer in science and the knowledge that can be gained from observation and experimentation, but an objective look at the history of science leads me to believe that it's not the end-all collection of answers to everything.
I could be wrong, but I think people believed the earth was round because the Church said so and there really was no science to prove otherwise at the time. Without anything to prove the earth was round, there was no reason to think it was any other shape.

Same goes with everything revolving around the earth. Inability to prove otherwise leads to these theories.

In the meantime, there have been countless studies that support evolution on a very small scale. Obviously nothing that says apes turned to man or anything like that, but definitely proof that evolution takes place, even if it's minimal. At this point, I think even the Church acknowldges that evolution takes place, but only after G-d put all the species here. Am I correct on that?
yes, you are mostly correct on that, even though many of the christian denominations have slightly different views of it, most feel that creation happened as God explained, and any "evolution" since then has been basic natural selection and adaptation, not Darwinian evolution.
Darwinian evolution is natural selection.

And responding to the previous statements about science, I think science has come a long way since the Spanish Inquisition. I'm not so sure about the Earth being flat part, but the Church did teach geocentrism and even prosecuted those like Galileo who thought otherwise. Maybe, 1000 years from now, people will look back and call us idiots for our science, but I highly doubt it. The scientific process has come a long way in the half millenium or so.
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If being involved in organized religion makes you feel good and you have the money to support your religious beliefs, I applaud you. I just dont see the point of trying to "buy" my way to heaven (if there is one). I believe if you are a good person, dont intentionally hurt anyone, etc.......you will get to heaven (if theres is one). But claiming there is proof of God (notice I didn't say Jesus) is at the very least a huge stretch. Honestly, the Catholics "believe" God created the Earth in 7 days..........I have friends that try to defend this point, its laughable.

There is much more "proof" of big bang and evolution than there will ever be of "God"........without question!
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Honestly, the Catholics "believe" God created the Earth in 7 days..........I have friends that try to defend this point, its laughable.



"the Catholics" do not believe that "God created the Earth in 7 days" (of a calendar created by man). Yes, your friends may be laughable, but don't blame it on the entire Church.

but, the Republicans are trying to create Sarah Palin in a few months, so, I guess anything is possible (just tryin' to stay on the topic of this thread)
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Darwinian evolution is natural selection.
natural selection is only a part of Darwinian evolution, which seems to be accepted to a reasonable degree by many christians, however Darwin's full evolutionary theory assumes that we evolved from one organism. Natural selection cannot account for "morphing" from one organism to another.
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If being involved in organized religion makes you feel good and you have the money to support your religious beliefs, I applaud you. I just dont see the point of trying to "buy" my way to heaven (if there is one). I believe if you are a good person, dont intentionally hurt anyone, etc.......you will get to heaven (if theres is one). But claiming there is proof of God (notice I didn't say Jesus) is at the very least a huge stretch. Honestly, the Catholics "believe" God created the Earth in 7 days..........I have friends that try to defend this point, its laughable.

There is much more "proof" of big bang and evolution than there will ever be of "God"........without question!
The fact that you are here typing that message is 100% proof of a God (or whatever you want to call your "creator") You cannot exist without having been created. There was no ball of mass to "explode" (big bang) without something having to creat it (if you believe in the proposterous big bang theory)
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If being involved in organized religion makes you feel good and you have the money to support your religious beliefs, I applaud you. I just dont see the point of trying to "buy" my way to heaven (if there is one). I believe if you are a good person, dont intentionally hurt anyone, etc.......you will get to heaven (if theres is one). But claiming there is proof of God (notice I didn't say Jesus) is at the very least a huge stretch. Honestly, the Catholics "believe" God created the Earth in 7 days..........I have friends that try to defend this point, its laughable.

There is much more "proof" of big bang and evolution than there will ever be of "God"........without question!
The fact that you are here typing that message is 100% proof of a God (or whatever you want to call your "creator") You cannot exist without having been created. There was no ball of mass to "explode" (big bang) without something having to creat it (if you believe in the proposterous big bang theory)
Being 'created' is an interesting thing because then who created God? If God always existed, then why is it so hard to believe the rest of the Universe always existed as well.
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If being involved in organized religion makes you feel good and you have the money to support your religious beliefs, I applaud you. I just dont see the point of trying to "buy" my way to heaven (if there is one). I believe if you are a good person, dont intentionally hurt anyone, etc.......you will get to heaven (if theres is one). But claiming there is proof of God (notice I didn't say Jesus) is at the very least a huge stretch. Honestly, the Catholics "believe" God created the Earth in 7 days..........I have friends that try to defend this point, its laughable.

There is much more "proof" of big bang and evolution than there will ever be of "God"........without question!
The fact that you are here typing that message is 100% proof of a God (or whatever you want to call your "creator") You cannot exist without having been created. There was no ball of mass to "explode" (big bang) without something having to creat it (if you believe in the proposterous big bang theory)
Being 'created' is an interesting thing because then who created God? If God always existed, then why is it so hard to believe the rest of the Universe always existed as well.
you're getting into some mind-boggling philosophy, but I will make an attempt (I think about that a lot also). We know the universe is tangible & therefore subject to the laws of physics as we know them (time, space...etc). The bible talks about God transcending time & space (in so many words), therefore his existence would best be described as infinite under our universal laws of time & space, which is actually a physical impossibility in the world as we know it, however when we are able to leave the physical realm and live in the "world" that god lives in where time & space no longer exist, we will then understand the true concept of God's infinity. This is something almost impossible for us to truly understand in our current state where our entire being is defined by laws of time & space.
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
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