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sirbrianwilson Oct 2 2008, 12:43 AM Post #61
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
end of discussion. read a book.

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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
end of discussion. read a book.

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:rofl: You are such a sheep.....if it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny!
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
No solid evidence to support evolution? I've gotta say, Bri's right on this one. Pick up a book on evolution and give it a go.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that the bones in our hand are the exact match to the bones in a bat's wing, horses hoof, elephant's foot, or whale's flipper. Especially since in some of these other animals many of the bones found are useless. It would mean G-d would have had to create a horses hoof and put a bunch of useless, unnecessary bones in there. Doesn't make much sense to me. I mean I don't personally know G-d, but I doubt he's into performing acts with no purpose behind them.
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:rofl: You are such a sheep.....if it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny!
well, if that is not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
No solid evidence to support evolution? I've gotta say, Bri's right on this one. Pick up a book on evolution and give it a go.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that the bones in our hand are the exact match to the bones in a bat's wing, horses hoof, elephant's foot, or whale's flipper. Especially since in some of these other animals many of the bones found are useless. It would mean G-d would have had to create a horses hoof and put a bunch of useless, unnecessary bones in there. Doesn't make much sense to me. I mean I don't personally know G-d, but I doubt he's into performing acts with no purpose behind them.
...gotta agree with bri and dreach...

...but lets just say that you're right and there is no "recorded case" of evolution...well, to support your theory of creationsism, where is the "recorded case" supporting that?...there is no way you can say that there are more "recorded cases" supporting creationism than there are supporting evolution...

...how can one say that creationism is anything but 'stories' passed down for around 2,000 years?...honestly, where is the PROOF in creationism...and don't say you and i because there is no more proof in that answer than there would be for using that as an answer for evolution...actually there is less proof...
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."
That statement could just as easily describe Brumdog or Aaron.
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Jesus these threads are just good entertainment, although I do wonder how every single thread on the political board ends in an abortion/religion argument...
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At least race and class warfare hasn't been brought up yet.
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
No solid evidence to support evolution? I've gotta say, Bri's right on this one. Pick up a book on evolution and give it a go.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that the bones in our hand are the exact match to the bones in a bat's wing, horses hoof, elephant's foot, or whale's flipper. Especially since in some of these other animals many of the bones found are useless. It would mean G-d would have had to create a horses hoof and put a bunch of useless, unnecessary bones in there. Doesn't make much sense to me. I mean I don't personally know G-d, but I doubt he's into performing acts with no purpose behind them.
...gotta agree with bri and dreach...

...but lets just say that you're right and there is no "recorded case" of evolution...well, to support your theory of creationsism, where is the "recorded case" supporting that?...there is no way you can say that there are more "recorded cases" supporting creationism than there are supporting evolution...

...how can one say that creationism is anything but 'stories' passed down for around 2,000 years?...honestly, where is the PROOF in creationism...and don't say you and i because there is no more proof in that answer than there would be for using that as an answer for evolution...actually there is less proof...
Amen! (No pun intended)

The real "sheep" are people who believe something because someone else told them (no proof)...........that is pretty much what organized religion is! A way to get you in a building, scare the shit out of you, then pass you the collection plate.

Aaron, generally you are a pretty interesting guy, but on this subject you are in the stone ages! Basing your life on stories from a book, which has been re-written and translated thousands of times, is just plain ignorant! You weren't by chance an alter boy, were you?
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:rofl: You are such a sheep.....if it wasn't so sad it would almost be funny!
well, if that is not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!
says the walking liberal cliche....NLA. That is proposterous to say about me....all of my views have been researched in depth, and rarely do I fall into a "group", which is proven daily on this board as I tend to agree/disagree with just about everyone on here at different time about different things......hell NLA, I think we even agreed on something once (pickles on the hamburger)
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
No solid evidence to support evolution? I've gotta say, Bri's right on this one. Pick up a book on evolution and give it a go.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that the bones in our hand are the exact match to the bones in a bat's wing, horses hoof, elephant's foot, or whale's flipper. Especially since in some of these other animals many of the bones found are useless. It would mean G-d would have had to create a horses hoof and put a bunch of useless, unnecessary bones in there. Doesn't make much sense to me. I mean I don't personally know G-d, but I doubt he's into performing acts with no purpose behind them.
...gotta agree with bri and dreach...

...but lets just say that you're right and there is no "recorded case" of evolution...well, to support your theory of creationsism, where is the "recorded case" supporting that?...there is no way you can say that there are more "recorded cases" supporting creationism than there are supporting evolution...

...how can one say that creationism is anything but 'stories' passed down for around 2,000 years?...honestly, where is the PROOF in creationism...and don't say you and i because there is no more proof in that answer than there would be for using that as an answer for evolution...actually there is less proof...
when have you ever seen something appear from nothing? Everything created (you and I) has to have a creator. How much more "proof" do you need?
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what an easy way to live life. "wait a minute, he said what i believe doesn't make sense. oh, wait...i got it! it's because it's beyond our understanding. it's just the way it is...it's impossible for us to understand it in our limited cognitive capacity, although, i assert that i know that's the way it is."

believe what you want to believe, i don't care. nobody cares. the only time that it becomes a problem is when it's pushed onto someone else (e.g. in school or politics). teaching evolution in class is not teaching religion. it's science. and as you put it, it's within our capabilities to describe it in detail. there is a plethora of scientific evidence supporting it. so...why shouldn't it be there? isn't the point of school to teach kids everything we know to be true?

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there is virtually no solid evidence to support evolution. There is absolutely no recorded case of anything morphing into something else. It is simply a theory that relies upon a leap of faith, no different that creationism, except creationism makes more logical sense because it traces origins to the beginning, where evolution leaves that question unanswered.
No solid evidence to support evolution? I've gotta say, Bri's right on this one. Pick up a book on evolution and give it a go.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that the bones in our hand are the exact match to the bones in a bat's wing, horses hoof, elephant's foot, or whale's flipper. Especially since in some of these other animals many of the bones found are useless. It would mean G-d would have had to create a horses hoof and put a bunch of useless, unnecessary bones in there. Doesn't make much sense to me. I mean I don't personally know G-d, but I doubt he's into performing acts with no purpose behind them.
I have read many books on evolution, and they make EXTREMELY large leaps of faith to come to their conclusions. Thare are thousands of scientists who have ruled out Darwinian evolution as a possibility, and just as many that claim to have scientific proof of creationism....what makes their views less relevent than the evolutionists views? Answer: Because the evolutionists are vested in their beliefs and since they are mostly on the left and the left controls our liberal education system, you typically only hear their view growing up. (not to mention the fact that liberal whack jobs claim that creation science is a form of religion and must be kept out of schools)
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...aaronk, with all due respect, it sounds like you have accepted that as your belief...and i honestly do respect your belief...but when you say that "everything has a creator" that is not proof...

...the fact of the matter is that science is constantly coming up with new information and answers to questions that we never would have dreamed of having 50 let alone 2000 years ago...but when it comes to religion we have not moved one inch from 2000 years ago...people believe the same stories now that they did then...

...with all due respect...
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when have you ever seen something appear from nothing? Everything created (you and I) has to have a creator. How much more "proof" do you need?
What makes you sure that everything wasn't here forever in a different form?
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...aaronk, with all due respect, it sounds like you have accepted that as your belief...and i honestly do respect your belief...but when you say that "everything has a creator" that is not proof...

...the fact of the matter is that science is constantly coming up with new information and answers to questions that we never would have dreamed of having 50 let alone 2000 years ago...but when it comes to religion we have not moved one inch from 2000 years ago...people believe the same stories now that they did then...

...with all due respect...
Honestly, this sounds like a bigger defense of creationism than evolution. If I were to throw my belief behind something, I would rather choose that which has withstood 2000 years of people trying to dismantle than that which changes every 50 years.
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