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| BoilerNLA | Oct 2 2008, 10:11 PM Post #31 |
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and tell Palin to cut her bangs... it's distracting when she blinks. and, enough with the "winking" already... I liked her "energy", but to think that she might be a heartbeat away from becoming our President?! she is a joke, and has no business to be on the same stage as Biden. |
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| Old_School | Oct 2 2008, 10:21 PM Post #32 |
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Psh...They both suck, Biden just expresses himself more clearly which makes him look like less of a suck. |
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| eelbor | Oct 2 2008, 10:22 PM Post #33 |
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Now that is probably the best recap of the debate there was. Did you actually watch it, or was that just a lucky guess? |
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| Old_School | Oct 2 2008, 10:26 PM Post #34 |
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Thank you, and yeah, I did watch it, although my guess would have been the exact same thing. |
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| boilergrad01 | Oct 2 2008, 10:42 PM Post #35 |
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NO, That is not all I want from a VP. The debates are not about that. There where two possible outcomes for her and the ticket. If she fucked up tonight the race was over. She did not fuck it up. Watching CNN and FOX who had focus groups and both channels she came across well. People have faith in her now. Maybe you do not but undecided said they where impressed. That was what she needed to do tonight keep the race alive and she succeeded. Biden needed to land a knock out punch because the next debate I believe is a town hall and McCain will dominate that event. I believe going into the last debate the race will be tied. Then we have the 20 day stretch run. If she fucked up tonight it was over. thatis what i meant looking at it from a political perspective. |
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| boilergrad01 | Oct 2 2008, 10:48 PM Post #36 |
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Fox and CNN did the same thing and Palin dominated according to the focus groups. I am not questioning the networks on these polls I questions the participates. II think they wanna go and say they are undecided but have a preference prior to the debate. If I was undecided I learned nothing new tonight that woud of changed my mind. Then again most of us on here follow this stuff pretty closely and the average American doesn't. Biden di lie three times but not many people will catch those lies. |
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| dreachon | Oct 2 2008, 11:03 PM Post #37 |
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I was watching the CNN feed and their focus group clearly said Biden won the debate, by at least a 2-1 margin, so I'm not sure where your getting the "Palin dominated" info from. Also, CNN prefaced their focus group by saying it was an even mix of registered Dems, Repubs, and Independent, but that each person was there because they said their decision could be SWAYED by the debates. That meant that in all liklihood they did in fact favor one candidate going in, but not enough to say they would vote for him. So the data is certainly skewed to some degree as you pointed out. |
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| hoosierinhogville | Oct 3 2008, 08:32 AM Post #38 |
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Uh actually Brum posted the Fox poll and it showed Biden winning, and I too watched the CNN coverage, and they had Biden as the clear winner. The only place I have seen that has Palin listed as the winner is Drudge, and that is a conservative leaning site. My take is pretty much the same a most of you guys. Palin did a good job of being charming and not looking the fool. She also did a good job of not ever directly answering a question, which from what I have read is her M.O. Biden, especially on foriegn policy, showed that he knew his shit, and from a substantive point I would have to give him the win. Did anyone else catch Biden's Bridge to Nowwhere comment when explaining the McCain/Palin healthcare plan? I don't like the dems healthcare plan, but I though it was a good line. Also, BG why haven't I seen you show up in my electoral map thread. You seem pretty confident, but it looks like you aren't wanting to confront the reality of the situation. Edited by hoosierinhogville, Oct 3 2008, 08:35 AM.
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| sirbrianwilson | Oct 3 2008, 09:24 AM Post #39 |
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focus groups aren't generalizable, whereas polls are. br |
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| HoosierLars | Oct 3 2008, 09:36 AM Post #40 |
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I noticed how Palin was on a roll earlier in the debate, and Gwen had to cut her off. Palin more than held her own, even as Biden lied about the Iraq war costs and how the US Afghanistan commander said the surge strategy couldn't work there. Throw in his lie/gaffe about Lebanon throwing Hezbollah out of the country (it never happened), and for a supposed foreign policy expert, he's either a liar, or not as smart as people think. |
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| Mr Gray | Oct 3 2008, 10:07 AM Post #41 |
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Palin owned Biden in this debate....PERIOD. Biden was clearly frustrated everytime she had a "gotcha" moment and called him out on his inconsitencies. I especially liked when she used his own negative comments about Obama against him. Everytime Biden used his "grinch smile", they lost 10,000 voters. |
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| enemydeservesnomercy | Oct 3 2008, 10:12 AM Post #42 |
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...that was not a 'gotcha' smile...that was more of a 'i can't believe she's trying to get away with this' smile...have you gone over the fact checks lists from that debate...half of the stuff that she quoted was wrong...but if you think she one, everyone's entitled to their opinion i guess... ...i could see how you MIGHT be able to call it a draw...but to say that she owned him?...come on aaron... |
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| hoosierinhogville | Oct 3 2008, 11:21 AM Post #43 |
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Says the biggest Palin fan on the board. You know at first I thought Biden won, but then I thought about it again, and I have to tell you, all of Palin's pauses to gather her thoughts, run on sentences, non-sequiters, obvious dependence on memorized talking points, calling the commander in afghanistan by the wrong name, and refusals to answer the questions that were actually asked really make me think that she did in fact win the debate. And that's in spite of her incredibly annoying voice. Edited by hoosierinhogville, Oct 3 2008, 11:28 AM.
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| sirbrianwilson | Oct 3 2008, 11:37 AM Post #44 |
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homer. br |
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| eelbor | Oct 3 2008, 12:40 PM Post #45 |
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This is the best summation of Sarah's work last night that I have seen. Posted Image |
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