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Shocking truth about Obama's religion
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enemydeservesnomercy Oct 4 2008, 11:29 AM Post #16
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The catholic church still performs exorcisms:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=11755

Enemy avoided my factual statement about exorcisms, Dreach didn't even know that Jesus is currently alive, and Mongo, well, is just Mongo.

Apparently how guys don't have the intellectual firepower/honesty to debate this issue.
...i did acknowledge the fact that you said Catholics still perform exorcisms...i did it by saying that "i've never seen anything like that in all of my years going to church"...

...the palin situation happened in an open church...palin participated in this 'blessing'...now if you can tell me of or better yet show me video of a Catholic politician running for either Vice President or President of The United States of America, who participated in an exorcism, then and only then will you have a point...
I've been to a few catholic services, and the parishioners sprinkle themselves with holy water, and the priest sometimes blesses people. And I posted a link that the catholic church believes in demons/witches and performs exorcisms. Religion doesn't get any more main-stream than Catholicism, so I've clearly demonstrated that these beliefs are by no means abnormal.

And when you consider that all Christians believe in invisible men and eternal life, arguing about these minor differences is silly.
...but has a Catholic politician, running for President of the United States of America, ever participated in an exorcism?...now who's avoiding the questions?...

...palin, however, has participated in a 'blessing' where witches were involved...that is a proven fact that video can provide...

...just because you practice a certain religion does not mean that you participate in everything that it does or supports...i can tell you that from first hand experience...i have never and will never participate in an exorcism...palin cannot tell you that she will never participate in a 'blessing' where witches are involved...FACT...

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I've been to a few catholic services, and the parishioners sprinkle themselves with holy water, and the priest sometimes blesses people. And I posted a link that the catholic church believes in demons/witches and performs exorcisms. Religion doesn't get any more main-stream than Catholicism, so I've clearly demonstrated that these beliefs are by no means abnormal.

And when you consider that all Christians believe in invisible men and eternal life, arguing about these minor differences is silly.
This is just hilarious. You're comparing sprinkling holy water on someone to chasing an old woman out of town by threats to stone her to death....

Yeah, you're right. Exact same thing, except one would put someone in prison and the other is perfectly legal. But religions do both, so same thing.
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dreachon Oct 4 2008, 11:52 AM Post #18
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...please believe that i have nothing against religion...i was raised Catholic...i went to Catholic schools from the 1st grade all the way through graduating high school...my entire family (especially grandparents) are hardcore Catholic...

...i respect people who practice their faith and use it to lead a better life for themselves...however, i do not think a president should use their faith to make decisions for the rest of the country...and that is what i think palin will do once in office...

...but i DO have something against people who still believe in WITCHES in the year 2005!!! :blink:
I think the catholic faith still believes in exorcisms. Witches, demons, the devil--they are all basically the same thing. You guys should just leave religion out of the political debate. We have religious freedom in this country, whether people like Dreachon like it or not, and Obama's beliefs are very similar to Palin's.
Way to try and call the Jewish guy out for saying we shouldn't have religious freedom. Haha.
Your statement was beyond ignorant, Dreach. Christ, have you ever studied religion at all? *shakes head*
Numnuts, we don't believe Jesus was G-d's son. We don't believe he was resurrected. We don't believe he is the mesiah or that he is ever coming back. Why on earth would I know if you consider him to be still alive?

And what does that have anything to do with believing in religious freedom in the US? The two things have nothing to do with each other. I still think it's funny you tried to call out someone from a minority religion as not beleiving the US should allow multiple religions. Sometime you make absolutely zero sense.
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Mongo being Mongo huh? You never actually do anything but get defensive and throw out weak ass insults against Obama and those of us that disagree with you. Lars being Lars I reckon...
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Guys, didn't Palin pray to God asking that our mission in Iraq be his will? If so, that isn't saying it is a mission from God, that is praying that God's will is being done in Iraq. I pray everyday that what I am doing is God's will....it is a standard prayer "your will be done....etc"
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Calling it God's will or a mission from God is pretty tomato/tamato to me.
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I've been to a few catholic services, and the parishioners sprinkle themselves with holy water, and the priest sometimes blesses people. And I posted a link that the catholic church believes in demons/witches and performs exorcisms. Religion doesn't get any more main-stream than Catholicism, so I've clearly demonstrated that these beliefs are by no means abnormal.

And when you consider that all Christians believe in invisible men and eternal life, arguing about these minor differences is silly.
This is just hilarious. You're comparing sprinkling holy water on someone to chasing an old woman out of town by threats to stone her to death....

Yeah, you're right. Exact same thing, except one would put someone in prison and the other is perfectly legal. But religions do both, so same thing.
Like aaron correctly pointed out, the Kenyan was invited to her church, and it was a ONE time event. Was Palin supposed to fully research this guy while running a city and being a mother to four kids? And it's a fact that the Catholic belief of exercism isn't much different than the Kenyan beliefs.

Once again you make a post that shows you are neither "conservative" nor objective. You should change your moniker to "ObamaFaithful." Yes, I have a strong bias toward McCain, but I'm transparent about that, and acknowledge other points of view.
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Calling it God's will or a mission from God is pretty tomato/tamato to me.
You're just irritated that your guy believes in invisible men, prays to God, and expects to have eternal life. It must suck to be you.
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I've been to a few catholic services, and the parishioners sprinkle themselves with holy water, and the priest sometimes blesses people. And I posted a link that the catholic church believes in demons/witches and performs exorcisms. Religion doesn't get any more main-stream than Catholicism, so I've clearly demonstrated that these beliefs are by no means abnormal.

And when you consider that all Christians believe in invisible men and eternal life, arguing about these minor differences is silly.
This is just hilarious. You're comparing sprinkling holy water on someone to chasing an old woman out of town by threats to stone her to death....

Yeah, you're right. Exact same thing, except one would put someone in prison and the other is perfectly legal. But religions do both, so same thing.
Like aaron correctly pointed out, the Kenyan was invited to her church, and it was a ONE time event. Was Palin supposed to fully research this guy while running a city and being a mother to four kids? And it's a fact that the Catholic belief of exercism isn't much different than the Kenyan beliefs.

Once again you make a post that shows you are neither "conservative" nor objective. You should change your moniker to "ObamaFaithful." Yes, I have a strong bias toward McCain, but I'm transparent about that, and acknowledge other points of view.
Once again you make assumptions.

I don't give a shit about Palin having this guy at her church. It doesn't matter one bit to me. Your McCain fanboyism defense of it is all that I'm laughing at. You sound like a complete moron when you try to defend everyone of her actions, even the ones that don't matter. Comparing holy water to threatening to kill people with stones is just fucking hilarious.
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I've been to a few catholic services, and the parishioners sprinkle themselves with holy water, and the priest sometimes blesses people. And I posted a link that the catholic church believes in demons/witches and performs exorcisms. Religion doesn't get any more main-stream than Catholicism, so I've clearly demonstrated that these beliefs are by no means abnormal.

And when you consider that all Christians believe in invisible men and eternal life, arguing about these minor differences is silly.
This is just hilarious. You're comparing sprinkling holy water on someone to chasing an old woman out of town by threats to stone her to death....

Yeah, you're right. Exact same thing, except one would put someone in prison and the other is perfectly legal. But religions do both, so same thing.
Like aaron correctly pointed out, the Kenyan was invited to her church, and it was a ONE time event. Was Palin supposed to fully research this guy while running a city and being a mother to four kids? And it's a fact that the Catholic belief of exercism isn't much different than the Kenyan beliefs.

Once again you make a post that shows you are neither "conservative" nor objective. You should change your moniker to "ObamaFaithful." Yes, I have a strong bias toward McCain, but I'm transparent about that, and acknowledge other points of view.
Once again you make assumptions.

I don't give a shit about Palin having this guy at her church. It doesn't matter one bit to me. Your McCain fanboyism defense of it is all that I'm laughing at. You sound like a complete moron when you try to defend everyone of her actions, even the ones that don't matter. Comparing holy water to threatening to kill people with stones is just fucking hilarious.
What assumption did I make? I was making the point (quite well in fact) that all organized religions have beliefs that seem odd if you aren't a believer. Laying on hands, holy water, and exorcists are all relatively trivial examples when compared to the main christian beliefs that revolve around invisible men and eternal life. Obama believes in them and Palin believes in them.

Instead of adding something of value to the discussion, you chose to make an ass of yourself.
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Lars,

Why do you argue with these people over Palin. Hogville and Faithful claim to be conservatives but they will attack Sarah and defend barry. One is a Gov of Alaska and the other is a socialist that will "Punish the wealthy" and give money to the poor. That seems very fiscally conservative to me. Punish those that drive the economy and reward those that are not producing. I see it kinda like Tiller playing Painter over Elliot. Elliot scores and Painter fucks up. Tiller coaches like Obama will govern. Talking to these guys is like trying to convince DC that Paineter sucks. DC loves him and can not see where he fucks us same with Faithful he is a decent guy and sometimes just rattles your chain. I secertly belive Faithful pulls the lever for McCain but loves pissing us off. he is an IU fan so you know he has asshole tendencies :sarcasm:

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bg01, sometimes Faithful seems to debate in good faith, sometimes not...

Maybe Painter's better days are behind him, but I hope we manage to grind out a few more W's.
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Lars when has barry had a good idea or Painter had a good game against someone decent
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Lars when has barry had a good idea or Painter had a good game against someone decent
Ummmm.... Never? I guess the good news is Painter might have a shot at the Heisman since Barry might be the next Pres.
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Lars when has barry had a good idea or Painter had a good game against someone decent
Ummmm.... Never? I guess the good news is Painter might have a shot at the Heisman since Barry might be the next Pres.
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