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Ludwig Von Mises is wrong; on one thing
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Mr Gray Nov 5 2008, 09:56 PM Post #16
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OK OldSchool, I knew that would get your attention. I have been reading Von Mises as you have suggested, and I find the perspective very interesting and well thought out. I agree with almost everything, except the assessment of [url=www.fairtax.org]The FairTax[/URL], which I have heard you make a similar complaint.

Ludwig's problem with the fairtax is that it doesn't address reducing government back to it's pre-industrial revolution size, and that the problem is government spending. No one agrees more than me and the fairtax authors on that point, but that is not the purpose of thefairtax. The purpose of thefairtax is tax reform, not government spending reform, which or course should also be tackled, but the two should remain seperate issues.

That being said, however, thefairtax does provide taxation trasparency that could and ultimately should lead to a high level of public scrutiny on government spending. This side affect of thefairtax will be very helpful in the fight to reduce government, and I am disappointed that you and Ludwig wouldn't support it. Even if we were to reduce government spending, that wouldn't make our current form of progressive income based taxation full of special interest socialistic payouts (hidden as tax cuts) any better than it is now...it would just be the same problem with potentially less zeros at the end of it.

bump back to OldSchool, in case you forgot
I didn't forget. I'll try to tackle this later tonight or tomorrow. Glad to see you've liked what you've seen for the most part though!
I'm not going to let you forget this one OldSchool. The fairtax movement needs people like you!
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OK OldSchool, I knew that would get your attention. I have been reading Von Mises as you have suggested, and I find the perspective very interesting and well thought out. I agree with almost everything, except the assessment of [url=www.fairtax.org]The FairTax[/URL], which I have heard you make a similar complaint.

Ludwig's problem with the fairtax is that it doesn't address reducing government back to it's pre-industrial revolution size, and that the problem is government spending. No one agrees more than me and the fairtax authors on that point, but that is not the purpose of thefairtax. The purpose of thefairtax is tax reform, not government spending reform, which or course should also be tackled, but the two should remain seperate issues.

That being said, however, thefairtax does provide taxation trasparency that could and ultimately should lead to a high level of public scrutiny on government spending. This side affect of thefairtax will be very helpful in the fight to reduce government, and I am disappointed that you and Ludwig wouldn't support it. Even if we were to reduce government spending, that wouldn't make our current form of progressive income based taxation full of special interest socialistic payouts (hidden as tax cuts) any better than it is now...it would just be the same problem with potentially less zeros at the end of it.

bump back to OldSchool, in case you forgot
I didn't forget. I'll try to tackle this later tonight or tomorrow. Glad to see you've liked what you've seen for the most part though!
I'm not going to let you forget this one OldSchool. The fairtax movement needs people like you!
I can admit that the Fair Tax would be preferable to what we have in place right now, but to me that's like saying McCain would be preferable to Obama.
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