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Topic Started: Nov 5 2008, 11:03 AM (940 Views)
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BoilerNLA
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Nov 6 2008, 06:01 PM
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of course I would like to have all voters informed on the issues, and I have never implied that it is not important to be informed.
I was only responding to Old Schools attacks on the "ignorant masses" of my geographic area, implying that people here are more ignorant than elsewhere.
This is America. Read the constitution. Each citizen has the right to vote. Period. If you think this right should be scrutinized, then I would love to hear your proposition.
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Nov 6 2008, 06:04 PM
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of course I would like to have all voters informed on the issues, and I have never implied that it is not important to be informed.
I was only responding to Old Schools attacks on the "ignorant masses" of my geographic area, implying that people here are more ignorant than elsewhere.
This is America. Read the constitution. Each citizen has the right to vote. Period. If you think this right should be scrutinized, then I would love to hear your proposition. Everyone has the right, that does not mean that they should exercise that right if they don't know what they are doing.
I have the right to own and carry a gun. Should I do so if I don't know how to use it and be safe with it?
I think thats somewhat of the point he is saying. Just because you have the right, doesn't mean you should exercise that right in an uninformed way.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."
"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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Old_School
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Nov 6 2008, 06:17 PM
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of course I would like to have all voters informed on the issues, and I have never implied that it is not important to be informed.
I was only responding to Old Schools attacks on the "ignorant masses" of my geographic area, implying that people here are more ignorant than elsewhere.
This is America. Read the constitution. Each citizen has the right to vote. Period. If you think this right should be scrutinized, then I would love to hear your proposition. Know what? I've finally figured you out, NLA. You're a woman! I mean, what other explanation could there be for the way you gloss over most of what I'm saying while at at the same time completely and utterly misinterpreting the part of my argument you actually take in in? You build up wildly irrational arguments/realities structured on your nonsensical/delusional interpretation of my words, and then try to say I'm the one not making sense?
Christ...
Case in point: You claim that I attacked your geographic area, in the process implying that people there are more ignorant that elsewhere. WHAT IS THIS, FANTASY ISLAND?! I NEVER INSINUATED SUCH A THING.
From now on I'm gonna picture you in my head as a woman that rides around on her little magical unicorn spreading pixie dust over the land by day and consorting with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by night.
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Old_School
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Nov 6 2008, 06:25 PM
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Was that too harsh?
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Nov 6 2008, 06:33 PM
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Was that too harsh? Pretty much took the thoughts in my head and added a nice pixie dust embellishment. :cheers:
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Nov 6 2008, 06:40 PM
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of course I would like to have all voters informed on the issues, and I have never implied that it is not important to be informed.
I was only responding to Old Schools attacks on the "ignorant masses" of my geographic area, implying that people here are more ignorant than elsewhere.
This is America. Read the constitution. Each citizen has the right to vote. Period. If you think this right should be scrutinized, then I would love to hear your proposition.
Know what? I've finally figured you out, NLA. You're a woman! I mean, what other explanation could there be for the way you gloss over most of what I'm saying while at at the same time completely and utterly misinterpreting the part of my argument you actually take in in? You build up wildly irrational arguments/realities structured on your nonsensical/delusional interpretation of my words, and then try to say I'm the one not making sense? Christ... Case in point: You claim that I attacked your geographic area, in the process implying that people there are more ignorant that elsewhere. WHAT IS THIS, FANTASY ISLAND?! I NEVER INSINUATED SUCH A THING. From now on I'm gonna picture you in my head as a woman that rides around on her little magical unicorn spreading pixie dust over the land by day and consorting with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by night. oh great... so now you're prepared to rag on women in addition to the "ignorant masses" who are allowed the right to vote.
where the hell are you headed with all of this bullshit?
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Nov 6 2008, 06:41 PM
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of course I would like to have all voters informed on the issues, and I have never implied that it is not important to be informed.
I was only responding to Old Schools attacks on the "ignorant masses" of my geographic area, implying that people here are more ignorant than elsewhere.
This is America. Read the constitution. Each citizen has the right to vote. Period. If you think this right should be scrutinized, then I would love to hear your proposition.
Know what? I've finally figured you out, NLA. You're a woman! I mean, what other explanation could there be for the way you gloss over most of what I'm saying while at at the same time completely and utterly misinterpreting the part of my argument you actually take in in? You build up wildly irrational arguments/realities structured on your nonsensical/delusional interpretation of my words, and then try to say I'm the one not making sense? Christ... Case in point: You claim that I attacked your geographic area, in the process implying that people there are more ignorant that elsewhere. WHAT IS THIS, FANTASY ISLAND?! I NEVER INSINUATED SUCH A THING. From now on I'm gonna picture you in my head as a woman that rides around on her little magical unicorn spreading pixie dust over the land by day and consorting with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by night.
oh great... so now you're prepared to rag on women in addition to the "ignorant masses" who are allowed the right to vote. where the hell are you headed with all of this bullshit? :banghead:
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."
"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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Nov 6 2008, 06:49 PM
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of course I would like to have all voters informed on the issues, and I have never implied that it is not important to be informed.
I was only responding to Old Schools attacks on the "ignorant masses" of my geographic area, implying that people here are more ignorant than elsewhere.
This is America. Read the constitution. Each citizen has the right to vote. Period. If you think this right should be scrutinized, then I would love to hear your proposition.
Know what? I've finally figured you out, NLA. You're a woman! I mean, what other explanation could there be for the way you gloss over most of what I'm saying while at at the same time completely and utterly misinterpreting the part of my argument you actually take in in? You build up wildly irrational arguments/realities structured on your nonsensical/delusional interpretation of my words, and then try to say I'm the one not making sense? Christ... Case in point: You claim that I attacked your geographic area, in the process implying that people there are more ignorant that elsewhere. WHAT IS THIS, FANTASY ISLAND?! I NEVER INSINUATED SUCH A THING. From now on I'm gonna picture you in my head as a woman that rides around on her little magical unicorn spreading pixie dust over the land by day and consorting with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by night.
oh great... so now you're prepared to rag on women in addition to the "ignorant masses" who are allowed the right to vote. where the hell are you headed with all of this bullshit? :blink:
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Nov 6 2008, 07:06 PM
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Old School NLA is 50 at that point people are set into the beliefs and do not understand how anyone could disagree. NLA belives Obama has a good plan and would have done anything to defend it. Hence all the attacks on Palin and McCain. he truly saw them as in the way of his beliefs coming into effect. He is someone you should not waste time trying to persuade he is not presuadable. remember the age ladder 20's you and Dreach Idealist want radical change really believe it is best 30's lars Aaronk probably HOG Eelbor Faithful- Thoughtful or critical thinking problem solving 40's could still be like a guy in his 30's or like trouble dis-enfranchised or like NLA hell bound on defending his way of thinking. 50 and older the hardest to persuade. They rember to far back and are usually not visionaries. A huge problem in the Govt today.
NLA means well if McCain won NLA would probably agree the mindless masses voted. He got his way so he is happy.
Brum - he is his own little catergory and probably one of the few that could be persuaded. He is left slanted and has Bush fatigue.
The reason McCain did so well with the over 45 crowd they are most uncomfortable with change.
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Nov 6 2008, 08:06 PM
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Old School NLA is 50 at that point people are set into the beliefs and do not understand how anyone could disagree. NLA belives Obama has a good plan and would have done anything to defend it. Hence all the attacks on Palin and McCain. he truly saw them as in the way of his beliefs coming into effect. He is someone you should not waste time trying to persuade he is not presuadable. remember the age ladder 20's you and Dreach Idealist want radical change really believe it is best 30's lars Aaronk probably HOG Eelbor Faithful- Thoughtful or critical thinking problem solving 40's could still be like a guy in his 30's or like trouble dis-enfranchised or like NLA hell bound on defending his way of thinking. 50 and older the hardest to persuade. They rember to far back and are usually not visionaries. A huge problem in the Govt today.
NLA means well if McCain won NLA would probably agree the mindless masses voted. He got his way so he is happy.
Brum - he is his own little catergory and probably one of the few that could be persuaded. He is left slanted and has Bush fatigue.
The reason McCain did so well with the over 45 crowd they are most uncomfortable with change.
BG, I am disappointed in your last post and it's generalizations, and especially the personal claims about me.
If McCain had won the election, I would not be shouting out claims of "ignorant masses" of voters.
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Nov 6 2008, 08:13 PM
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oh well
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Nov 6 2008, 08:17 PM
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Old School NLA is 50 at that point people are set into the beliefs and do not understand how anyone could disagree. NLA belives Obama has a good plan and would have done anything to defend it. Hence all the attacks on Palin and McCain. he truly saw them as in the way of his beliefs coming into effect. He is someone you should not waste time trying to persuade he is not presuadable. remember the age ladder 20's you and Dreach Idealist want radical change really believe it is best 30's lars Aaronk probably HOG Eelbor Faithful- Thoughtful or critical thinking problem solving 40's could still be like a guy in his 30's or like trouble dis-enfranchised or like NLA hell bound on defending his way of thinking. 50 and older the hardest to persuade. They rember to far back and are usually not visionaries. A huge problem in the Govt today.
NLA means well if McCain won NLA would probably agree the mindless masses voted. He got his way so he is happy.
Brum - he is his own little catergory and probably one of the few that could be persuaded. He is left slanted and has Bush fatigue.
The reason McCain did so well with the over 45 crowd they are most uncomfortable with change.
BG, I am disappointed in your last post and it's generalizations, and especially the personal claims about me. If McCain had won the election, I would not be shouting out claims of "ignorant masses" of voters. Regardless of who won, there were going to be masses of ignorant voters.
There were educated voters who voted for Obama. There were educated voters who voted for McCain. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for Obama. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for McCain.
Old_School isn't saying because you voted for Obama, you are ignorant. He is saying that many people who voted, regardless of whom they voted for, didn't have the least clue what they were voting for. I can't tell you the amount of people that I go to school with that have just rattled off media talking points and had no idea what each candidate was truly going to do.
Its a fact of life in America, there will be a lot of people who vote and don't know what the hell they are voting for. They are doing it just to do it.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."
"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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Nov 6 2008, 08:26 PM
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Old School NLA is 50 at that point people are set into the beliefs and do not understand how anyone could disagree. NLA belives Obama has a good plan and would have done anything to defend it. Hence all the attacks on Palin and McCain. he truly saw them as in the way of his beliefs coming into effect. He is someone you should not waste time trying to persuade he is not presuadable. remember the age ladder 20's you and Dreach Idealist want radical change really believe it is best 30's lars Aaronk probably HOG Eelbor Faithful- Thoughtful or critical thinking problem solving 40's could still be like a guy in his 30's or like trouble dis-enfranchised or like NLA hell bound on defending his way of thinking. 50 and older the hardest to persuade. They rember to far back and are usually not visionaries. A huge problem in the Govt today.
NLA means well if McCain won NLA would probably agree the mindless masses voted. He got his way so he is happy.
Brum - he is his own little catergory and probably one of the few that could be persuaded. He is left slanted and has Bush fatigue.
The reason McCain did so well with the over 45 crowd they are most uncomfortable with change.
BG, I am disappointed in your last post and it's generalizations, and especially the personal claims about me. If McCain had won the election, I would not be shouting out claims of "ignorant masses" of voters.
Regardless of who won, there were going to be masses of ignorant voters. There were educated voters who voted for Obama. There were educated voters who voted for McCain. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for Obama. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for McCain. Old_School isn't saying because you voted for Obama, you are ignorant. He is saying that many people who voted, regardless of whom they voted for, didn't have the least clue what they were voting for. I can't tell you the amount of people that I go to school with that have just rattled off media talking points and had no idea what each candidate was truly going to do. Its a fact of life in America, there will be a lot of people who vote and don't know what the hell they are voting for. They are doing it just to do it. I could not agree with you more.
But, what is your "solution" to this "problem". That has been my whole point throughout this thread.
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Nov 6 2008, 08:33 PM
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Old School NLA is 50 at that point people are set into the beliefs and do not understand how anyone could disagree. NLA belives Obama has a good plan and would have done anything to defend it. Hence all the attacks on Palin and McCain. he truly saw them as in the way of his beliefs coming into effect. He is someone you should not waste time trying to persuade he is not presuadable. remember the age ladder 20's you and Dreach Idealist want radical change really believe it is best 30's lars Aaronk probably HOG Eelbor Faithful- Thoughtful or critical thinking problem solving 40's could still be like a guy in his 30's or like trouble dis-enfranchised or like NLA hell bound on defending his way of thinking. 50 and older the hardest to persuade. They rember to far back and are usually not visionaries. A huge problem in the Govt today.
NLA means well if McCain won NLA would probably agree the mindless masses voted. He got his way so he is happy.
Brum - he is his own little catergory and probably one of the few that could be persuaded. He is left slanted and has Bush fatigue.
The reason McCain did so well with the over 45 crowd they are most uncomfortable with change.
BG, I am disappointed in your last post and it's generalizations, and especially the personal claims about me. If McCain had won the election, I would not be shouting out claims of "ignorant masses" of voters.
Regardless of who won, there were going to be masses of ignorant voters. There were educated voters who voted for Obama. There were educated voters who voted for McCain. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for Obama. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for McCain. Old_School isn't saying because you voted for Obama, you are ignorant. He is saying that many people who voted, regardless of whom they voted for, didn't have the least clue what they were voting for. I can't tell you the amount of people that I go to school with that have just rattled off media talking points and had no idea what each candidate was truly going to do. Its a fact of life in America, there will be a lot of people who vote and don't know what the hell they are voting for. They are doing it just to do it.
I could not agree with you more. But, what is your "solution" to this "problem". That has been my whole point throughout this thread. I think the message should be more tailored towards research and knowing your candidate than "Rock the vote". If someone is educated and disagrees with me, thats perfectly fine. I just think it gets under people's skin when they are so adamant about a candidate and have no real knowledge.
Basically, put the emphasis on knowledge and research. I'd love to see more organizations out there that help people know about the candidates. I was somewhat interested in the election, and I myself found it hard to ever find unbiased information on each candidate.
I don't think anyone wants to take a person's right to vote away. People would just prefer that others know what they are doing, and in this election, like in many others, it doesn't seem to be the case.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."
"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel
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Nov 6 2008, 08:38 PM
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Old School NLA is 50 at that point people are set into the beliefs and do not understand how anyone could disagree. NLA belives Obama has a good plan and would have done anything to defend it. Hence all the attacks on Palin and McCain. he truly saw them as in the way of his beliefs coming into effect. He is someone you should not waste time trying to persuade he is not presuadable. remember the age ladder 20's you and Dreach Idealist want radical change really believe it is best 30's lars Aaronk probably HOG Eelbor Faithful- Thoughtful or critical thinking problem solving 40's could still be like a guy in his 30's or like trouble dis-enfranchised or like NLA hell bound on defending his way of thinking. 50 and older the hardest to persuade. They rember to far back and are usually not visionaries. A huge problem in the Govt today.
NLA means well if McCain won NLA would probably agree the mindless masses voted. He got his way so he is happy.
Brum - he is his own little catergory and probably one of the few that could be persuaded. He is left slanted and has Bush fatigue.
The reason McCain did so well with the over 45 crowd they are most uncomfortable with change.
BG, I am disappointed in your last post and it's generalizations, and especially the personal claims about me. If McCain had won the election, I would not be shouting out claims of "ignorant masses" of voters.
Regardless of who won, there were going to be masses of ignorant voters. There were educated voters who voted for Obama. There were educated voters who voted for McCain. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for Obama. There were ignorant, uneducated voters who voted for McCain. Old_School isn't saying because you voted for Obama, you are ignorant. He is saying that many people who voted, regardless of whom they voted for, didn't have the least clue what they were voting for. I can't tell you the amount of people that I go to school with that have just rattled off media talking points and had no idea what each candidate was truly going to do. Its a fact of life in America, there will be a lot of people who vote and don't know what the hell they are voting for. They are doing it just to do it.
I could not agree with you more. But, what is your "solution" to this "problem". That has been my whole point throughout this thread.
I think the message should be more tailored towards research and knowing your candidate than "Rock the vote". If someone is educated and disagrees with me, thats perfectly fine. I just think it gets under people's skin when they are so adamant about a candidate and have no real knowledge. Basically, put the emphasis on knowledge and research. I'd love to see more organizations out there that help people know about the candidates. I was somewhat interested in the election, and I myself found it hard to ever find unbiased information on each candidate. I don't think anyone wants to take a person's right to vote away. People would just prefer that others know what they are doing, and in this election, like in many others, it doesn't seem to be the case. so, in other words... you have no "solution" to the "problem"
I rest my case.
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