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brumdog44 Nov 5 2008, 07:00 PM Post #1
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Okay, not really a surprise...or a poll...or about the election. Just thought that aaron would get a kick out of the following picture, proof positive that dinosaurs and man coexisted. Unfortunately, McCain and 25 electoral votes came nowhere close to proving that dinosaurs and man coexisted.
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aaron, would you care to explain fossilization from the conservative evangelical view for me? it widely known that fossils begin forming at about 10,000 years, and can take as long as 5 million years to become fossils. there are fossils on earth that are believed to be more than 1 billion years old.

to clarify, i'm not dissing or dismissing your views; but as a person who is very interested in religious studies i want to know the actual evangelical stance on this. i don't know if there is one officially, but if there is one, please let me know. thanks. :cheers:
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aaron, would you care to explain fossilization from the conservative evangelical view for me? it widely known that fossils begin forming at about 10,000 years, and can take as long as 5 million years to become fossils. there are fossils on earth that are believed to be more than 1 billion years old.

to clarify, i'm not dissing or dismissing your views; but as a person who is very interested in religious studies i want to know the actual evangelical stance on this. i don't know if there is one officially, but if there is one, please let me know. thanks. :cheers:
I don't know the religious view but I believe a lot of their theories are based on the fact that carbon dating is innacurate and cannot used as a measure to date fossils. So when you say, "there are fossils 10,000 years old", I think they don't believe that figure. I could be wrong though.
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aaron, would you care to explain fossilization from the conservative evangelical view for me? it widely known that fossils begin forming at about 10,000 years, and can take as long as 5 million years to become fossils. there are fossils on earth that are believed to be more than 1 billion years old.

to clarify, i'm not dissing or dismissing your views; but as a person who is very interested in religious studies i want to know the actual evangelical stance on this. i don't know if there is one officially, but if there is one, please let me know. thanks. :cheers:
I don't know the religious view but I believe a lot of their theories are based on the fact that carbon dating is innacurate and cannot used as a measure to date fossils. So when you say, "there are fossils 10,000 years old", I think they don't believe that figure. I could be wrong though.
That's the understand I have as well.
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aaron, would you care to explain fossilization from the conservative evangelical view for me? it widely known that fossils begin forming at about 10,000 years, and can take as long as 5 million years to become fossils. there are fossils on earth that are believed to be more than 1 billion years old.

to clarify, i'm not dissing or dismissing your views; but as a person who is very interested in religious studies i want to know the actual evangelical stance on this. i don't know if there is one officially, but if there is one, please let me know. thanks. :cheers:
carbon dating is a flawed science the way I understand it. You seem to take it as fact, but it is a fairly new technology, relatively speaking, and has contradicted itself and it's own results throughout the years. In our lifetime, we have heard several estimates as to how old the fossils are, how old the earch is....etc etc, and those estimates range sometimes in billions of years.....BILLIONS. Any scientific data that finds itself that far off isn't a science that I tend to put much stock in. If I am looking at ancient artifacts with drawings of dinosaurs on them vs. a flawed and ever-changing carbon dating system....I am going to take what I believe to be the logical, common-sense choice.

I am a man of faith as you may know, and I believe the Bible to be true and accurate. I realize that it has been interpreted by hundreds of groups over 2000 years, and that leaves it open to potential flaws, and I respect that view. I personally believe in God's power, and if he wanted the Bible to remain factually accurate throughout the years, he could do that. I also believe in heaven and hell, and I intend to spend eternity in the former, therefore I have no desire to risk it by trying to contradict what I believe is God's word. What good does it do for me to contradict the Bible? Even if I am wrong, what did I miss out on....where is the reward in believing the world is a billion years old or whatever? I just don't see a reward large enough to make it worth the risk.

This is not an evangelical take that I have heard.....it is just my take. My grandfather once told me "If you spend your entire life believing in God and living a good life according to his will and it turns out you were wrong in the end....what's wrong with that?" He was a very wise & humble man, and as far as I can tell, not a single person has ever had anything bad to say about him. That is a pretty good legacy in my eyes.
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I'm sorry, aaron, what is my official title?

As I've always said, the true measure of a man is how acts when he loses. Thanks for showing your true colors.
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aaron, would you care to explain fossilization from the conservative evangelical view for me? it widely known that fossils begin forming at about 10,000 years, and can take as long as 5 million years to become fossils. there are fossils on earth that are believed to be more than 1 billion years old.

to clarify, i'm not dissing or dismissing your views; but as a person who is very interested in religious studies i want to know the actual evangelical stance on this. i don't know if there is one officially, but if there is one, please let me know. thanks. :cheers:
carbon dating is a flawed science the way I understand it. You seem to take it as fact, but it is a fairly new technology, relatively speaking, and has contradicted itself and it's own results throughout the years. In our lifetime, we have heard several estimates as to how old the fossils are, how old the earch is....etc etc, and those estimates range sometimes in billions of years.....BILLIONS. Any scientific data that finds itself that far off isn't a science that I tend to put much stock in. If I am looking at ancient artifacts with drawings of dinosaurs on them vs. a flawed and ever-changing carbon dating system....I am going to take what I believe to be the logical, common-sense choice.

I am a man of faith as you may know, and I believe the Bible to be true and accurate. I realize that it has been interpreted by hundreds of groups over 2000 years, and that leaves it open to potential flaws, and I respect that view. I personally believe in God's power, and if he wanted the Bible to remain factually accurate throughout the years, he could do that. I also believe in heaven and hell, and I intend to spend eternity in the former, therefore I have no desire to risk it by trying to contradict what I believe is God's word. What good does it do for me to contradict the Bible? Even if I am wrong, what did I miss out on....where is the reward in believing the world is a billion years old or whatever? I just don't see a reward large enough to make it worth the risk.

This is not an evangelical take that I have heard.....it is just my take. My grandfather once told me "If you spend your entire life believing in God and living a good life according to his will and it turns out you were wrong in the end....what's wrong with that?" He was a very wise & humble man, and as far as I can tell, not a single person has ever had anything bad to say about him. That is a pretty good legacy in my eyes.
It's already been proven that dinosaurs and man didn't co-exist. Bible verse Obama 364:174.
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I'm curious what drawings you're speaking of. Do you have any links you could provide?
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aaron, would you care to explain fossilization from the conservative evangelical view for me? it widely known that fossils begin forming at about 10,000 years, and can take as long as 5 million years to become fossils. there are fossils on earth that are believed to be more than 1 billion years old.

to clarify, i'm not dissing or dismissing your views; but as a person who is very interested in religious studies i want to know the actual evangelical stance on this. i don't know if there is one officially, but if there is one, please let me know. thanks. :cheers:
carbon dating is a flawed science the way I understand it. You seem to take it as fact, but it is a fairly new technology, relatively speaking, and has contradicted itself and it's own results throughout the years. In our lifetime, we have heard several estimates as to how old the fossils are, how old the earch is....etc etc, and those estimates range sometimes in billions of years.....BILLIONS. Any scientific data that finds itself that far off isn't a science that I tend to put much stock in. If I am looking at ancient artifacts with drawings of dinosaurs on them vs. a flawed and ever-changing carbon dating system....I am going to take what I believe to be the logical, common-sense choice.

I am a man of faith as you may know, and I believe the Bible to be true and accurate. I realize that it has been interpreted by hundreds of groups over 2000 years, and that leaves it open to potential flaws, and I respect that view. I personally believe in God's power, and if he wanted the Bible to remain factually accurate throughout the years, he could do that. I also believe in heaven and hell, and I intend to spend eternity in the former, therefore I have no desire to risk it by trying to contradict what I believe is God's word. What good does it do for me to contradict the Bible? Even if I am wrong, what did I miss out on....where is the reward in believing the world is a billion years old or whatever? I just don't see a reward large enough to make it worth the risk.

This is not an evangelical take that I have heard.....it is just my take. My grandfather once told me "If you spend your entire life believing in God and living a good life according to his will and it turns out you were wrong in the end....what's wrong with that?" He was a very wise & humble man, and as far as I can tell, not a single person has ever had anything bad to say about him. That is a pretty good legacy in my eyes.
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when dinosaurs began to legalize pot, allowing female dinasaurs the right to choose, and allowing same sex marriages... that lead to their downfall. B)
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I'm curious what drawings you're speaking of. Do you have any links you could provide?
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Unicorns and fairies existed with man as well. I've seen drawings.
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Brum,

Why is it so hard for you to admit that a God exist. if you wanna question Christianity I guess i could see your point. I do not get how you can question if God exist. Almost every culture believes in a higher power. Maybe not the same one but something as a higher power.

Brum do you really feel a need to disprove religion or is this just personal with AaronK. I believe in jesus as much as the next guy. I also admit I bow to temptation sometimes. I have been to Vegas, i have been to strip club, I drink every know and then but I still consider my efforts honorable. Have i made mistakes yes. I am not perfect but why do you feel the desire to make Aaron feel insecure about his religion. If you are a non-believer then ok but why try to pick on Aaron over it so much.
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