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Eric Gordon - welcome to hell
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tyler8186 Nov 6 2008, 12:01 PM Post #16
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So because David Teague scored 32 in a home win against IU, that means he should be playing in the NBA?

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The logic used in these message board arguments make me never want to post again, although I don't post that much anyways.
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So because David Teague scored 32 in a home win against IU, that means he should be playing in the NBA?

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The logic used in these message board arguments make me never want to post again, although I don't post that much anyways.
Hey, I'm just using Unbathed's logic when saying that. He is providing excuse after excuse for Gordon, and when completely owned, Unbathed used Gordon's 25 points (actually 22) against Purdue as justification for playing in the NBA.

Don't let your pro-IU bias blind you from seeing the true substance of this thread.
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So because David Teague scored 32 in a home win against IU, that means he should be playing in the NBA?

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no because a bunch of highly paid NBA GM's knew Teague wasn't worth drafting - at age 23 no less.

in Gordon - they picked him in the top 10 - at age 19 :owned:
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So because David Teague scored 32 in a home win against IU, that means he should be playing in the NBA?

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you quote: asked for numbers on the basket ball court and I gave them to you.

BT FOY
2nd team AA
first team freshman AA


you are completely abused
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BT FOY
2nd team AA
first team freshman AA


you are completely abused
*Yawn*

Just means he was over rated.

Means nothing in the NBA...as we have already seen.
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UB,

I am very surprised you feel such a bond to defend super Gordon. He used IU as a one year stop. He was not a team leader nor team player. He demostrated flashes of brilliance and emence talent no one can argue. He never played with heart or a refuse to lose attitude it was always about him. I might not be an IU fan but I believe you IU fans have always respected hustle and heart over talent. That is not the case with Super Gordon it was always talent over heart. He is talented and a remarkable athlete but he is not a team player. I agree the Clippers is not a good fit for him because he is selfish and not a leader and that teams needs a leader not more selfish players.
I think Gordon is a good kid that played in a horrific situation. First off, he was injured most of the year and secondly, the coaching (or lackthereof) was abysmal. A good coach would not have made Gordon shoulder all responsibility and being given a green light to shoot. A team framework would have been more beneficial than basically a 30 game NBA tryout - for that I blame Sampson and his staff.

Gordon never said a bad word and looked to play hard on a team of thugs and druggies. He had nothing in common with them and didn't associate with his teamates. It is not his fault, Sampson ran an asylum so the good kids were thrust into the kettle of sludge with the majority bad ones.

Getting drafted by the Cliippers was the worst thing that could have happened to him. He would have been much better off going to Europe.
...very well said ub...gordon walked from a completely horrid situation to an even worse one...like you said...he's a good kid who deserves a break...
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Gordon's decision to play for a well-known cheater (and leave Illinois high and dry) did come back to bite him on the ass last year. I do agree with that aspect.

As far as playing for the worst team in the NBA, that is a good thing for a young player. Plenty of opportunity for garbage minutes.
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Gordon's decision to play for a well-known cheater (and leave Illinois high and dry) did come back to bite him on the ass last year. I do agree with that aspect.

As far as playing for the worst team in the NBA, that is a good thing for a young player. Plenty of opportunity for garbage minutes.
not the clippers.

they are far and away the worst NBA franchise
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Gordon's decision to play for a well-known cheater (and leave Illinois high and dry) did come back to bite him on the ass last year. I do agree with that aspect.

As far as playing for the worst team in the NBA, that is a good thing for a young player. Plenty of opportunity for garbage minutes.
He always wanted to play for IU, just wasn't a Davis fan. i think if any coach came to IU, he would have went there anyways. he didn't come just for sampson
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Gordon's decision to play for a well-known cheater (and leave Illinois high and dry) did come back to bite him on the ass last year. I do agree with that aspect.

As far as playing for the worst team in the NBA, that is a good thing for a young player. Plenty of opportunity for garbage minutes.
seriously - turn off your computer and throw it in the nearest trash dump


your posting gets worse by the day - I didn't think that was possible
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When a player isn't playing there are only three "facts" that can explain why:

1) Disciplinary issues
2) Injury
3) He just isn't as good as the other 11 players on his team.

Anything else is just excuses. You be the judge on which of the three facts explain his 1.3 ppg.
You need to look no further than IU's very own Bill Lynch to see that players can discipline free, uninjured, and better than the guys ahead of them on the depth chart and still not play. It's called loyalty to veterans and the belief that newer players need to "earn their keep" so to speak.
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I will say the Clippers are a pretty pathetic organization. If you draft a kid that high, no matter how good he is (which I think he was drafted too high), you have to at least give him 15 minutes a night and see what he has. If you don't give the guy a chance, you may as well have traded the pick for something they you'll utilize.

He'll get his chances. Dunleavy is trying to win, and Baron/Mobley/Ricky Davis give him the best opportunity at this point. When they are out of it at the All-Star break, he'll start playing much more.
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so much for the sampsonite prediction of him being the number one pick in the draft, by the way. hes got to be maybe the most overrated IU guard I've seen in my 52 years. he wasnt much better than bracey wright, especially for all the hype. doesnt bother me to see him with the Clips...he's counting his millions and is probably thrilled he's as far as way as bloomington as he can be.
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I refuse to blame Gordon given the disaster coaching situation.

Under Knight (had he not transfer first), he would have been a Jay Edwards type player.
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I refuse to blame Gordon given the disaster coaching situation.

Under Knight (had he not transfer first), he would have been a Jay Edwards type player.
Gordon would have never fit under Knight. Gordon needed an NBA style of offense, not a motion offense.

Gordon would have been a monster under Crean and his NBA-type offense.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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