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some straight talk; about racism
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HoosierLars Nov 14 2008, 07:32 PM Post #16
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The guy is obviously a racist, but several of the arguments that Jesse and other black leaders have made a living talking about don't hold water after a black man becomes President.
There's obviously some tongue-in-cheek stuff in that piece, so calling the guy a "racist" is a bit harsh, IMO. He makes some valid points, and I believe whites have been somewhat absolved from past racial sins.
You're correct of course, we don't know anything about him. But since he chose to write the article and make it public I think we can assume that this point of view is not new to him and he has strong feelings about the subject matter.

What's your opinion about Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, and the Congressional Black Caucus?


Narcissistic media hound, fat narcissistic media hound, corrupt congresswoman and an organization more concerned about blacks than they are about America.

You get no argument from me, Bob. Don't you think it will be easier to call out these folks now that whites have elected a black president? I hope Obama doesn't take any of their crap.
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Bobobinc Nov 14 2008, 08:28 PM Post #17
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I think that that black America has less excuses now. I hope that Obama becomes a symbol of what blacks can achieve in this country. I just think the author is oversimplifying the issue. The playing field is not level just because Obama is President. Hell, I don't think the field is level for women yet.
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I think that that black America has less excuses now. I hope that Obama becomes a symbol of what blacks can achieve in this country. I just think the author is oversimplifying the issue. The playing field is not level just because Obama is President. Hell, I don't think the field is level for women yet.
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the replys broke the way i figured they would. the obama lovers found it racist and find no merit to MY CLAIMS that the NAACP, UNCF, ADL, JDL, and ACLU are in fact reverse racist organizations. the non-obama crowd found some (maybe alot) of truth, and even some humor in what was written.
im fucking serious here, its time to shut these organizations down. the day after obama was elected, the FBI initiated attempts to put surveillance on, and in some cases infiltrate, ALL 487 white supremacist groups across the country, (no link, but source was msn.com) even though most, if not all, had done nothing wrong. most of these "487" groups ( i mean come on, the klan has been irrelevent since '64. how the fuck do you figure 487 groups exist?) are nothing more than a few rednecks getting together at someones house and drinking beer and talking about how they hate minorities. whether you like it or not, this IS NOT a crime and doesnt deserve FBI attention. these other groups however, NAACP, UNCF, ADL, JDL, and ACLU are multi-million dollar operations with lawyers, advisors, and people willing to suppress the constitution in order to further their cause. who is the greater threat?
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troubleatiu Nov 14 2008, 09:25 PM Post #20
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i think that's probably some of the dumbest shit you've ever posted, trouble...

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no brian, it isnt. its a very serious situation. any fucking person or group, of any race, religion, creed, sexual orientation, etc... has some racist group supporting them and active in the msm...except the average, straight, christian, white guy. but, when this guy speaks his mind, the media whores try to tear him to shreds as being a "racist." this is wrong, and as you shall see, will become more of a problem in the coming years.

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The Tom Adkins who wrote the article that trouble is talking about is the one being owned here by Peter Schiff, who was Ron Paul's economic advisor at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7bcDu04os&feature=related
excellent.

good work, brum.

this guy is a tool. :loser:
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troubleatiu Nov 14 2008, 10:40 PM Post #22
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The Tom Adkins who wrote the article that trouble is talking about is the one being owned here by Peter Schiff, who was Ron Paul's economic advisor at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7bcDu04os&feature=related
excellent.

good work, brum.

this guy is a tool. :loser:
you fuckers kill me. you still havent addressed my statements. note: i didnt call them questions. all your pet organizations are racist. plain and simple. i could care less what he thinks about the housing market, that wasnt the subject of this post. he knows a spade when he sees it and he isnt afraid to say so. quit changing the subject. typical liberal bullshit. now i see why conservatives cant stand you bastards. address the statement put forth to you. racism is dead. white people can finally be proud of being born white. what the fuck does that have to do with home prices in phoenix, atlanta, or las vegas?
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The Tom Adkins who wrote the article that trouble is talking about is the one being owned here by Peter Schiff, who was Ron Paul's economic advisor at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7bcDu04os&feature=related
excellent.

good work, brum.

this guy is a tool. :loser:
address my claims. what is your take on the NAACP? UNCF? ADL? JDL? ACLU? why is it racist for a white equivalent to sprout up? tell me. im all ears.
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The Tom Adkins who wrote the article that trouble is talking about is the one being owned here by Peter Schiff, who was Ron Paul's economic advisor at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7bcDu04os&feature=related
excellent.

good work, brum.

this guy is a tool. :loser:
you fuckers kill me. you still havent addressed my statements. note: i didnt call them questions. all your pet organizations are racist. plain and simple. i could care less what he thinks about the housing market, that wasnt the subject of this post. he knows a spade when he sees it and he isnt afraid to say so. quit changing the subject. typical liberal bullshit. now i see why conservatives cant stand you bastards. address the statement put forth to you. racism is dead. white people can finally be proud of being born white. what the fuck does that have to do with home prices in phoenix, atlanta, or las vegas?
the guy is a tool.

and,

p.s. don't you mean you couldn't care less

racsist bastards, these are the kind of guys (like Rush) who will get bank in the coming years, without giving a shit about what happens to our country... just keep on spewing this crap and wait to see if we unravel... and blame it all on Obama.

UnAmerican? ... I think so...

fuck 'em.
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I definitely wouldn't go so far to say that racism is dead. I've never seen a need for those organizations to exist, but Obama being elected doesn't really change anything in my opinion.
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p.s. don't you mean you couldn't care less-boilernla
i could (present tense) care less (also present tense)

wouldnt that be a double negative? anyway, check out my newest post, the south park barky thread. youll love it. your boys at comedy central broke this ground awhile back.
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The Tom Adkins who wrote the article that trouble is talking about is the one being owned here by Peter Schiff, who was Ron Paul's economic advisor at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7bcDu04os&feature=related
excellent.

good work, brum.

this guy is a tool. :loser:
you fuckers kill me. you still havent addressed my statements. note: i didnt call them questions. all your pet organizations are racist. plain and simple. i could care less what he thinks about the housing market, that wasnt the subject of this post. he knows a spade when he sees it and he isnt afraid to say so. quit changing the subject. typical liberal bullshit. now i see why conservatives cant stand you bastards. address the statement put forth to you. racism is dead. white people can finally be proud of being born white. what the fuck does that have to do with home prices in phoenix, atlanta, or las vegas?
the guy is a tool.

and,

p.s. don't you mean you couldn't care less

racsist bastards, these are the kind of guys (like Rush) who will get bank in the coming years, without giving a shit about what happens to our country... just keep on spewing this crap and wait to see if we unravel... and blame it all on Obama.

UnAmerican? ... I think so...

fuck 'em.
anyway, answer my fucking question. what is the NAACP, UNCF, ADL, JDL, and ACLU but racist organizations? ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION.
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brumdog44 Nov 15 2008, 12:43 AM Post #28
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The Tom Adkins who wrote the article that trouble is talking about is the one being owned here by Peter Schiff, who was Ron Paul's economic advisor at one time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7bcDu04os&feature=related
excellent.

good work, brum.

this guy is a tool. :loser:
you fuckers kill me. you still havent addressed my statements. note: i didnt call them questions. all your pet organizations are racist. plain and simple. i could care less what he thinks about the housing market, that wasnt the subject of this post. he knows a spade when he sees it and he isnt afraid to say so. quit changing the subject. typical liberal bullshit. now i see why conservatives cant stand you bastards. address the statement put forth to you. racism is dead. white people can finally be proud of being born white. what the fuck does that have to do with home prices in phoenix, atlanta, or las vegas?
I was simply pointing out that the guy who wrote the article doesn't agree with your candidate Ron Paul's advisor and when cornered, lied about what he said. Ron Paul didn't ever endorse McCain, and they're in the same party. I have to say I was disappointed that you voted for McCain, not because it was a vote opposing the guy I voted for (and unlike Lars intimates and NLA seems to believe, I know that both candidates were flawed) but because it seemed to be against what YOU stood for.

Racism is dead? No, it's not. Is racism decreasing over time? Absolutely. Is the amount of racism overstated by some special interest groups? Sure. I'm not sure of what you mean by 'finally being proud of being white'....I'm proud of accomplishments. Being born any certain skin color sure as heck isn't an accomplishment. Any organization that equates rights of one race OVER another race is racist, so in instances where that occurs regardless of the race involved, it is racist.
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I agree. Racism is not dead... not by a long shot.
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"I have to say I was disappointed that you voted for McCain, not because it was a vote opposing the guy I voted for (and unlike Lars intimates and NLA seems to believe, I know that both candidates were flawed) but because it seemed to be against what YOU stood for."-brumdog

i told you guys, after further review i opted to vote against the greater evil. we all have choices everyday, sometimes both are bad. the election this year is a perfect example. after realizing barr was also CFR, there was no way to vote my conscience. my consciense wasnt represented. obama was the establishment's man; i voted against the establishment. i HAD choices; i couldve stayed home, i couldve skipped the president slot, (which i almost did) or i could cast a vote.
anyway, maybe youll tackle that which nla keeps avoiding. what is your take on these reverse racist organizations? why do we even need them? if i started a national association for the advancement of white people what would happen? what about your students? have you ever directed one to talk to the united whitey college fund for financial aid? have you ever directed a white kid to go to the UNCF and apply for aid?
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