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some straight talk; about racism
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hoosierinhogville Nov 18 2008, 04:17 PM Post #61
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No bet, just check this out Aaron. EW article - Why is tv so white?

Of note - this quote from page 1 of the article. Today the current prime-time lineup, including fall's 14 new scripted shows, is looking alarmingly pale. According to an Entertainment Weekly study of scripted-programming casts for the upcoming fall 2008 season, each of the five major broadcast networks is whiter than the Caucasian percentage (66.2 percent) of the United States population, as per the 2007 census estimate. And all of the networks are representing considerably lower than the Latino population percentage of 15.2 percent
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Unbiased Nov 18 2008, 04:21 PM Post #62
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probably makes sense.

most blacks aren't at home watching Tv. They are out clubbing with 50 Cent, smoking blunts or beating their girlfriend.
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probably makes sense.

most blacks aren't at home watching Tv. They are out clubbing with 50 Cent, smoking blunts or beating their girlfriend.
UB maybe you are trying to be funny but that was totally uncalled for
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probably makes sense.

most blacks aren't at home watching Tv. They are out clubbing with 50 Cent, smoking blunts or beating their girlfriend.
UB maybe you are trying to be funny but that was totally uncalled for
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and I do all 3.
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Let's be clear here. I don't really give a crap one way or the other how many minorities are on tv or hold positions of power, and whether or not that is relative to the actual population. I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today. Now some of that can be layed at the feet of the minorities themselves. And to be sure, I wouldn't want the government to take steps to enfore equality (i.e.affirmitive action). But to sit here well, "I think there are equal numbers of minorities on t.v. and Obama is President, so there is equality" is just silly when factual evidence says otherwise.
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Mr Gray Nov 18 2008, 09:55 PM Post #66
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I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today.
in your statement, are you measuring equality in terms of opportunity or results?
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I'm still trying to figure out the exact moment my "opportunity" was handed to me................you "take" an opportunity, it is not given..........
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I'm still trying to figure out the exact moment my "opportunity" was handed to me................you "take" an opportunity, it is not given..........
your opportunity was "handed" to you when you were born in the United States of America with sound mind & body (assuming you were :D ). If you can't make it here, you can't make it anywhere.
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I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today.
in your statement, are you measuring equality in terms of opportunity or results?
Both.
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most of us might be 'created' equal.

but separation begins soon after. its called talent, will, drive, intelligence, opportunities.
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I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today.
in your statement, are you measuring equality in terms of opportunity or results?
Both.
please enlighten me as to how equality is not met in terms of opportunity in this country?
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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hoosierinhogville Nov 19 2008, 10:41 AM Post #72
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I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today.
in your statement, are you measuring equality in terms of opportunity or results?
Both.
please enlighten me as to how equality is not met in terms of opportunity in this country?
I think we have had this conversation every time we get into the discussion about blacks voting for Obama. I am not going to sit here and have the same debate over and over again, when neither of us are going to change our stance. We can just agree to disagree.
Before I quit this thread though let me just say this. The groups of people I listed earlier in the thread; the representatives, the senators, the ceo's etc. - the demographics of those groups are not reperesentative of America as a whole. Do you think that is a coincidence? If so, I think you are as naive as you often like to claim others are.
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I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today.
in your statement, are you measuring equality in terms of opportunity or results?
Both.
please enlighten me as to how equality is not met in terms of opportunity in this country?
Well we know that most poor areas are predominantlt black. And those areas usually have the worst schools. That means the kids who go to school in those areas have fewer opportunities then those who go to school in more affluent areas. I think that's a pretty simple, entirely factual argument as to why minorities currently dn't have as much opportunity as their white counterparts.
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I am just trying to make some people on here understand that contrary to their anecdotal evidence, there is not equality in the U.S. today.
in your statement, are you measuring equality in terms of opportunity or results?
Both.
please enlighten me as to how equality is not met in terms of opportunity in this country?
Well we know that most poor areas are predominantlt black. And those areas usually have the worst schools. That means the kids who go to school in those areas have fewer opportunities then those who go to school in more affluent areas. I think that's a pretty simple, entirely factual argument as to why minorities currently dn't have as much opportunity as their white counterparts.
Do you think blacks in the U.S. have more opportunities than their African counterparts?
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I understand what you are saying Dreach,

I started out at IUPUI and know of three students one at Butler and two at IUPUI that went to college purely on ROTC scholarships and student loans. They could not have went to college any other way but really wanted to better themselves. Oppurtunity is there if someone really wants it. MY Older sister went to school on three scolarships and was a RA to pay for school. Iti s possible if ones really wants it.
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