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Cousins wavering; UAB
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dedicatedIUfan Nov 15 2008, 03:18 PM Post #1
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I appears that Cousins could be available. I know we don't have room for him. Should we feel bad for Mike Davis?


Cousins wavering


Jerry Meyer
Rivals.com Basketball Recruiting


It looked like Mike Davis and UAB had pulled off a major coup in landing the No. 2 ranked prospect in the Rivals150 DeMarcus Cousins. Now, it appears that UAB losing Cousins could be the biggest storyline from the early signing period.

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mongo Nov 15 2008, 03:21 PM Post #2
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Yeah I feel bad for Davis. I don't care what the old schoolers think I never hated Davis. I thought he was an awful coach but I didn't hate him. All frustration over Davis ever being coach here should be targeted towards Brand and the players at the time. Now that he's not here anymore I wish him the best.
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crveech Nov 15 2008, 03:42 PM Post #3
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I'm not too surprised that Cousins decided to back out of his commitment to UAB. He's ranked 2nd in the country according to Rivals and is a huge pro prospect. He only made a verbal commitment, so of course coaches are going to keep trying to get to him. It's just what we did with Gordon. Be interesting to see where Cousins ends up. Too bad we don't have any room for him now.
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boilergrad01 Nov 15 2008, 03:46 PM Post #4
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I heard that Cousins only concern is that Davis will be at UAB after this season.
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I feel bad for Davis as well. I never wanted Davis to be a head coach at IU, but I would've loved to see him being an assistant for years to come. When you realize how good Davis is at recruiting, it's really a shame that we missed out on seeing Knight coach several teams recruited by Davis.
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sweet. cousins went to high school with Nick Williams. Williams has been quoted multiple times as saying that he wants cousins to come play for the hoosiers. that' be HUGE for us.

shit, oh well. we can dream.
Edited by BTown11, Nov 15 2008, 04:52 PM.
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Davis deserves losing him.

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Davis deserves losing him.

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You really hate Davis that much? I don't get it. He's not here anymore.
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sirbrianwilson Nov 16 2008, 05:17 PM Post #9
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I dislike any individual that helped drive our program into oblivion. call it a grudge, but davis did nothing but hurt our program. we're still feeling the effects...

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I dislike any individual that helped drive our program into oblivion. call it a grudge, but davis did nothing but hurt our program. we're still feeling the effects...

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I'd blame the administration before I would blame Davis. They let a group of 18-22 year old kids make a decision that should have been made by someone in power. Davis wasn't ready for that responsibility, I don't know how you blame the guy for being in over his head.

He never cheated, seemed like he worked hard on the recruiting trail, and seemed to be doing all he knew how to do. I guess the only thing he could have done was say "No, I don't want to coach one of the best programs in the nation.", but honestly, who would have done that? IU's admin fucked up.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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what kind of adult allows 18-22 year olds run a program? if you accept a head coaching job at one of the most prestigious college programs in the nation then you accept the responsibility. if you can't handle it, you should resign. i'm not in the business of making excuses for someone that doesn't fulfill the responsibilities of the job they applied for. i fire people for doing less than that.

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what kind of adult allows 18-22 year olds run a program? if you accept a head coaching job at one of the most prestigious college programs in the nation then you accept the responsibility. if you can't handle it, you should resign. i'm not in the business of making excuses for someone that doesn't fulfill the responsibilities of the job they applied for. i fire people for doing less than that.

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Wasn't he named the interim coach after Knight was fired? And then he went to a Final Four. What was he supposed to do? Say "No, don't offer me millions of dollars and the keys to a great basketball program, I want to go back to being a low paid assistant coach."? The IU administration catered to a group of kids and it completely backfired on them.

Was Davis a good enough coach to coach at IU? Hell no, but if you are offered a great job like that, would you turn it down? He deserved to be let go, but to wish bad things for him in his future because he did all he could seems pretty harsh to me. The guy was put in a horrible spot. I don't feel like he purposefully did bad, he just wasn't a good coach. I'd be more mad at IU's athletic department and all the other idiots who were involved with the hires of Davis and Sampson.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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what kind of adult allows 18-22 year olds run a program? if you accept a head coaching job at one of the most prestigious college programs in the nation then you accept the responsibility. if you can't handle it, you should resign. i'm not in the business of making excuses for someone that doesn't fulfill the responsibilities of the job they applied for. i fire people for doing less than that.

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Blah... you're not talking about some guy lying on his resume. Mike Davis's line of work is coaching, and everyone knew how much experience he had. It's more comparable to a lawyer with a year of experience being asked to be a partner in a law firm. That's his goal, but he didn't expect it to happen for 10+ years. Do you think he'd say no? It's not like he's someone pretending to be a lawyer; he just lacks experience. It's the law firm's fault for asking him prematurely because there's no way anyone in that position would say no.
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Nov 16 2008, 09:52 PM
It's more comparable to a lawyer with a year of experience being asked to be a partner in a law firm. That's his goal, but he didn't expect it to happen for 10+ years.
Or taking a lawyer who's been a community organizer with no executive experience, and hiring him to be the CEO of a major corporation, or the president of a large country.
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rikker68 Nov 16 2008, 10:27 PM Post #15
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It's more comparable to a lawyer with a year of experience being asked to be a partner in a law firm. That's his goal, but he didn't expect it to happen for 10+ years.
Or taking a lawyer who's been a community organizer with no executive experience, and hiring him to be the CEO of a major corporation, or the president of a large country.
As I read this thread, I was waiting for it. You didn't disappoint me, Lars.
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