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Update on early Pomeroy projections
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BoilerVision Dec 21 2008, 01:59 PM Post #1
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Yesterday's win moves us up to 7th. I'm surprised that Minnesota is stil only 43rd at this point, but they have only played on quality opponent. Even though it is early, here is the projected conference records for each team. BTW: it gave us a 79% chance of victory yesterday.

(7) Purdue 13-5
(10) Ohio State 13-5
(16) Illinois 12-6
(17) Northwestern 11-7
(37) Michigan 9-9
(41) Michigan State 9-9
(43) Minnesota 9-9
(57) Iowa 7-11
(59) Wisconsin 7-11
(70) Penn State 7-11
(177) Indiana 2-16

Game-by-game prediction have us only losing two games (@Illinois, @OSU)
http://kenpom.com/sked.php?team=Purdue&t=p

I'm calling 14-4.
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It's definitely early with the rankings when you see Northwestern 4th in conference and Wisconsin 9th.
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Yeah, no doubt that it is early. But having said that, last year's projections picked UW to go 16-2 and Purdue to go 15-3 long before any of us could have imagined.

It will be interesting to see how NW fares this year. They've looked like a legit NCAA team in the games I've seen. They led at Butler for most of the game before losing in the final minutes. Their other loss was a close game at Stanford. They blew out a decent Florida St. team in Evanston. It's good to see that Bill Charmody actually returns his best player (Coble) for once. I'd say they are a middle-of-pack team, but do agree that Wisconsin will better than 7-11. Actually, there really doesn't seem to be a whole lot of difference in the league's top eight teams at this point. (I think Iowa and Penn State are a notch below the top eight).

And I still think IU can win four home games if everyone stays healthy.
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
From what I understand of the RPI, it doesn't matter that much whether you win or lose against low-ranked teams. The formula is simply .25*OwnRecord + .5*OpponentsRecords + .25*OpponentsOpponentsRecords, with 1.4 and .6 weightings for home and away games.

A win or loss by your own team only affects the first component.
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
From what I understand of the RPI, it doesn't matter that much whether you win or lose against low-ranked teams. The formula is simply .25*OwnRecord + .5*OpponentsRecords + .25*OpponentsOpponentsRecords, with 1.4 and .6 weightings for home and away games.

A win or loss by your own team only affects the first component.
You are correct, chops. Every team playing IU will take a big RPI hit.
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eelbor Dec 22 2008, 12:55 AM Post #7
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
From what I understand of the RPI, it doesn't matter that much whether you win or lose against low-ranked teams. The formula is simply .25*OwnRecord + .5*OpponentsRecords + .25*OpponentsOpponentsRecords, with 1.4 and .6 weightings for home and away games.

A win or loss by your own team only affects the first component.
You are correct, chops. Every team playing IU will take a big RPI hit.
I am glad we only play them once then :cheers:
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
From what I understand of the RPI, it doesn't matter that much whether you win or lose against low-ranked teams. The formula is simply .25*OwnRecord + .5*OpponentsRecords + .25*OpponentsOpponentsRecords, with 1.4 and .6 weightings for home and away games.

A win or loss by your own team only affects the first component.
You are correct, chops. Every team playing IU will take a big RPI hit.
kinda like playing turdue for most of this ENTIRE decade
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
From what I understand of the RPI, it doesn't matter that much whether you win or lose against low-ranked teams. The formula is simply .25*OwnRecord + .5*OpponentsRecords + .25*OpponentsOpponentsRecords, with 1.4 and .6 weightings for home and away games.

A win or loss by your own team only affects the first component.
You are correct, chops. Every team playing IU will take a big RPI hit.
kinda like playing turdue for most of this ENTIRE decade
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truth hurts.

I apologize
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I think we'll upset someone that we shouldn't, and I pity that school... their RPI will take a huge hit.
From what I understand of the RPI, it doesn't matter that much whether you win or lose against low-ranked teams. The formula is simply .25*OwnRecord + .5*OpponentsRecords + .25*OpponentsOpponentsRecords, with 1.4 and .6 weightings for home and away games.

A win or loss by your own team only affects the first component.
You are correct, chops. Every team playing IU will take a big RPI hit.
Yeah... I always forget the formula until someone types it.
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Further proof of how worthless the RPI is.

Pomeroy and Saragin are so much more accurate its ridiculous.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Further proof of how worthless the RPI is.

Pomeroy and Saragin are so much more accurate its ridiculous.
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