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the fairtax; revisited
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troubleatiu Jan 27 2009, 11:54 PM Post #1
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thanks to cattman for mailing me his book, aaronk for railing about it earlier this year, and the general economy. im really in favor of this. it does make sense. furthermore, i might be paying money into the system now. im on unemployment, working cash jobs, (making decent money, mind you + unemployment) and contributing NOTHING to obama nation. (IM NOT AN IDIOT, IT is BUSHS FAULT). but if we had the fairtax, not only might i have a REAL JOB id at least still be paying something.

does anybody need floor work done in their home? crawl space, floor joice, basement waterproofing, furnace repair, main floor supports, etc...? its kind of what im doing now. (unofficially, of course.)
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mail it to me next.

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Trouble how do we switch to the fairtax???? I think implemetation is the biggest problem????

It also take things like a boat away from the little guy. $40,000 boat now becomes a 48,000 boat and you can't find a bank to finance the 8,000 that is taxed. That puts boat makers out of business. Of course the current economy is doing that also.
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Trouble how do we switch to the fairtax???? I think implemetation is the biggest problem????

It also take things like a boat away from the little guy. $40,000 boat now becomes a 48,000 boat and you can't find a bank to finance the 8,000 that is taxed. That puts boat makers out of business. Of course the current economy is doing that also.
ok, thats the difference between and inclusive tax and an exclusive tax. an exclusive tax would add 23% more cost onto any exsisting product. the fair tax is INCLUSIVE. what that means in a nutshell is roughly 20% of the cost of anything you buy is tax passed on to the consumer. your only looking at an ADDITIONAL 3% cost on any item's current price. that $40,000 boat will only cost $41,200. all the "exclusive taxes" passed on to us now anyway, would be incorporated into the fairtax.
the only thing that i havent seen addressed is the vice tax. would the fairtax pre-emt the alcohol, cigarrette, and/or gas taxes currently in use. or would it stack? other than that, im all in favor.
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mail it to me next.

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pm me an address and ill do just that. im just about done and "neck deep, the disastrous presidency of dubbya" is due anyday from amazon.com. time to move on. of course, my thoughts and inspirations will long live on this board. God love free speech.
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Trouble how do we switch to the fairtax???? I think implemetation is the biggest problem????

It also take things like a boat away from the little guy. $40,000 boat now becomes a 48,000 boat and you can't find a bank to finance the 8,000 that is taxed. That puts boat makers out of business. Of course the current economy is doing that also.
ok, thats the difference between and inclusive tax and an exclusive tax. an exclusive tax would add 23% more cost onto any exsisting product. the fair tax is INCLUSIVE. what that means in a nutshell is roughly 20% of the cost of anything you buy is tax passed on to the consumer. your only looking at an ADDITIONAL 3% cost on any item's current price. that $40,000 boat will only cost $41,200. all the "exclusive taxes" passed on to us now anyway, would be incorporated into the fairtax.
the only thing that i havent seen addressed is the vice tax. would the fairtax pre-emt the alcohol, cigarrette, and/or gas taxes currently in use. or would it stack? other than that, im all in favor.
What about state sales tax, property tax, and state income taxes????????????
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the beginnings of a hoosier board book club??? hahahahahaha.
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Trouble how do we switch to the fairtax???? I think implemetation is the biggest problem????

It also take things like a boat away from the little guy. $40,000 boat now becomes a 48,000 boat and you can't find a bank to finance the 8,000 that is taxed. That puts boat makers out of business. Of course the current economy is doing that also.
ok, thats the difference between and inclusive tax and an exclusive tax. an exclusive tax would add 23% more cost onto any exsisting product. the fair tax is INCLUSIVE. what that means in a nutshell is roughly 20% of the cost of anything you buy is tax passed on to the consumer. your only looking at an ADDITIONAL 3% cost on any item's current price. that $40,000 boat will only cost $41,200. all the "exclusive taxes" passed on to us now anyway, would be incorporated into the fairtax.
the only thing that i havent seen addressed is the vice tax. would the fairtax pre-emt the alcohol, cigarrette, and/or gas taxes currently in use. or would it stack? other than that, im all in favor.
What about state sales tax, property tax, and state income taxes????????????
its a good question, like my vice tax question. would states still be able to control some revenue? im not sure, im only 2/3 through the book. ive been out of work and drinking at your expense lately, so i dont read as much as i did.
at the federal level im all in favor of it. as for states, im hoping they address it in the last 1/3 of the book. cattman? aaronk? any help here?
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the beginnings of a hoosier board book club??? hahahahahaha.
I hope someone has some Dr. Suess. I was always a big fan.
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the beginnings of a hoosier board book club??? hahahahahaha.
I hope someone has some Dr. Suess. I was always a big fan.
i was hoping someone could mail me oh the places you'll go.
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the beginnings of a hoosier board book club??? hahahahahaha.
where you been? this isnt the beginning, weve been doing this a month or better now.
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the beginnings of a hoosier board book club??? hahahahahaha.
where you been? this isnt the beginning, weve been doing this a month or better now.
sending books back and forth?
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Trouble how do we switch to the fairtax???? I think implemetation is the biggest problem????

It also take things like a boat away from the little guy. $40,000 boat now becomes a 48,000 boat and you can't find a bank to finance the 8,000 that is taxed. That puts boat makers out of business. Of course the current economy is doing that also.
ok, thats the difference between and inclusive tax and an exclusive tax. an exclusive tax would add 23% more cost onto any exsisting product. the fair tax is INCLUSIVE. what that means in a nutshell is roughly 20% of the cost of anything you buy is tax passed on to the consumer. your only looking at an ADDITIONAL 3% cost on any item's current price. that $40,000 boat will only cost $41,200. all the "exclusive taxes" passed on to us now anyway, would be incorporated into the fairtax.
the only thing that i havent seen addressed is the vice tax. would the fairtax pre-emt the alcohol, cigarrette, and/or gas taxes currently in use. or would it stack? other than that, im all in favor.
I got ya on the difference. My dad has always claimed the gallon of Milk has been taxed 10 times before you buy it at the store.
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the beginnings of a hoosier board book club??? hahahahahaha.
I hope someone has some Dr. Suess. I was always a big fan.
i was hoping someone could mail me oh the places you'll go.
these are serious issues for serious times. laugh if you want, but fuck you anyway. if you want something i have, ill gladly mail it to you. if you just want to be a dick, thats fine as well. you want something, or you just want to run your mouth?
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Trouble how do we switch to the fairtax???? I think implemetation is the biggest problem????

It also take things like a boat away from the little guy. $40,000 boat now becomes a 48,000 boat and you can't find a bank to finance the 8,000 that is taxed. That puts boat makers out of business. Of course the current economy is doing that also.
ok, thats the difference between and inclusive tax and an exclusive tax. an exclusive tax would add 23% more cost onto any exsisting product. the fair tax is INCLUSIVE. what that means in a nutshell is roughly 20% of the cost of anything you buy is tax passed on to the consumer. your only looking at an ADDITIONAL 3% cost on any item's current price. that $40,000 boat will only cost $41,200. all the "exclusive taxes" passed on to us now anyway, would be incorporated into the fairtax.
the only thing that i havent seen addressed is the vice tax. would the fairtax pre-emt the alcohol, cigarrette, and/or gas taxes currently in use. or would it stack? other than that, im all in favor.
I got ya on the difference. My dad has always claimed the gallon of Milk has been taxed 10 times before you buy it at the store.
again, exclusive vs inclusive tax. im not done yet to see how it addresses states rights. at the federal level, its alot better than the current system.
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