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Tom Crean Report Card
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BTown11 Jan 30 2009, 01:56 PM Post #16
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Unfortunately for Coach Crean, the BTown school does not grade on a curve. That is, we treat every season the same, requirements are the same whether you're a genius or a retard. Because of the 5 win record, and the winless Big Ten record, Coach Crean has earned a raw grade of an 'F' from the BTown school. Fortunately, however, for his GPA, we do count this as a weighted course due to the tremendous difficulty.

With the weight included, Coach Crean's grade is a D.

Also, forunately, we are currently offering extra credit.
extra credit:
1) 2009 recruiting class +10 points
2) maintained fan support +3 points
3) "narrow" defeat versus Northwestern +1 point
4) signs of improvement +1 point

that leaves his final midseason grade at a C+.

Hopefully for Tom, he will be able to garner a Big Ten victory, earn more extra credit, and possibly do well on the final exam (big ten tournament), in order to get his GPA where we all want it to be.
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dedicatedIUfan Jan 30 2009, 02:23 PM Post #17
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I would say a B. I am close to giving him a B+, but his 5 wins total and 0 wins in the B10, along with his end game substitution pattern and coaching brings me lower than a B+. But the last few games the team has improved and if we win a couple B10 games, he will recieve at least a B+.

The only real end game mistake that he made in the NW game was call a timeout with the clock stopped after their go ahead free throw to call a timeout just to get it to half court. That was plain stupid. Either call a timeout set up a play and run the damn thing or let them inbounds the ball and call timeout once they get past the half court. He used up his last time out and we couldn't get the ball inbounds. At least this is my opinion on what I saw at the end of that game. :banghead:
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I would say a B. I am close to giving him a B+, but his 5 wins total and 0 wins in the B10, along with his end game substitution pattern and coaching brings me lower than a B+. But the last few games the team has improved and if we win a couple B10 games, he will recieve at least a B+.

The only real end game mistake that he made in the NW game was call a timeout with the clock stopped after their go ahead free throw to call a timeout just to get it to half court. That was plain stupid. Either call a timeout set up a play and run the damn thing or let them inbounds the ball and call timeout once they get past the half court. He used up his last time out and we couldn't get the ball inbounds. At least this is my opinion on what I saw at the end of that game. :banghead:
The inbound play after the free throws worked didn't it? There might have been the same result if he didn't call the timeout there. It wouldn't have surprised me if the inexperienced player inbounding the ball would have threw it away right away if the play wasn't set up.
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This thread is dumb.. Billy Gillespie wouldn't have 2 wins with this team..

Offensive mastermind is trying to teach a bunch of rooks how to be competitive and play against talented juniors and seniors.

Our team is a lot more talented then what you all give them credit for, after all they are still a bunch of freshmen trying to play like upperclassmen. Each player will have a roll on the team once we reload and bring more talent in. North Carolina wouldn't even win with an all freshmen team, even if they were all top 100 recruits.

Coach Crean shouldn't be receiving any negativity such as giving him "shitty grades" on his coaching until he has a full team to play with. Let me know the last time we had 8 talented/troubled players leave a team, have a coach resign and athletic director resign in the same year... leaving all but 2 horrible ass white walk-ons and a slate full of new players EXPECTED to put out?

It's like you guys don't know how to handle this or something. We've taken our biggest lumps this season, our guys are still freshmen... still learning. It's absurd to criticize TC's coaching so strictly with the given team.
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Jazen Jan 30 2009, 02:57 PM Post #20
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Let me know the last time we had 8 talented/troubled players leave a team, have a coach resign and athletic director resign in the same year... leaving all but 2 horrible ass white walk-ons and a slate full of new players EXPECTED to put out?
This thread is merely about grading his coaching ability with what he has, not with what he lost.

I'm seeing alot of B's so far. For a 5-14 (0-7) Indiana team, I'd say that's pretty positive.
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I still think it's harsh to grade a guy that doesn't even have a team yet.
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Jazen Jan 30 2009, 03:16 PM Post #22
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I still think it's harsh to grade a guy that doesn't even have a team yet.
I think you're taking it the wrong way, man, at least from what I can see. No one is "criticizing" him at all, at least not from what I've seen. As a matter of fact, I think most people would agree with you that not a lot of coaches would probably even have 5 wins with this bunch.

But to not be able to assess/evaluate him on how he's doing his job at Indiana University might be negligent.

I mean, for fuck's sake, I hear his paycheck is pretty hefty.
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Unbiased Jan 30 2009, 03:26 PM Post #23
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I still think it's harsh to grade a guy that doesn't even have a team yet.
I think you're taking it the wrong way, man, at least from what I can see. No one is "criticizing" him at all, at least not from what I've seen. As a matter of fact, I think most people would agree with you that not a lot of coaches would probably even have 5 wins with this bunch.

But to not be able to assess/evaluate him on how he's doing his job at Indiana University might be negligent.

I mean, for fuck's sake, I hear his paycheck is pretty hefty.
Crean makes more than I do a year and my wife grades me everynight.

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Crean makes more than I do a year
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i love what crean has done as a coach, and also what he's done for our program however, it'd be foolish for us to be satisfied with what we've seen so far. i know he tried his best, and i think my grade for him reflects that.
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Unbiased Jan 30 2009, 03:44 PM Post #26
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Crean makes more than I do a year
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looking back on it, a more appropriate grade would be 'Incomplete'.
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i love what crean has done as a coach, and also what he's done for our program however, it'd be foolish for us to be satisfied with what we've seen so far. i know he tried his best, and i think my grade for him reflects that.
This thread is not intended to bash on Crean. After a decade of fucking chaos, it's our (fans) right to assess and evaluate whoever is holding the reigns on the sidelines.

I personally believe he is the answer.

Wait it out, you'll see.
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BTown11 Jan 30 2009, 03:50 PM Post #29
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i love what crean has done as a coach, and also what he's done for our program however, it'd be foolish for us to be satisfied with what we've seen so far. i know he tried his best, and i think my grade for him reflects that.
This thread is not intended to bash on Crean. After a decade of fucking chaos, it's our (fans) right to assess and evaluate whoever is holding the reigns on the sidelines.

I personally believe he is the answer.

Wait it out, you'll see.
i think he's the answer too.

for me, an "A" season is top 2 big ten with at least 20 wins (a few of those have to be quality). i know it's not fair to measure this team up to those expectations, but hey "it's indiana". lol.
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and John Gruden is the answer for IU football
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