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troubleatiu Feb 4 2009, 06:21 PM Post #31
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granted, the video was put out by 911truth.org but its not doctored. its the same collapse seen by millions now. the "signature" of a controlled demolition is the building "crimping" towards center, then the entire structure falling straight down. this limits collateral damage in confined spaces such as densely populated city blocks. its refered to as "falling into its own footprint." i challenge anybody to tell me this doesnt fit into that category.
also note the building that burned out of control for 15 hours and still stood. that was in venezuela i believe. (that is one of several over the years that burned, but never fell.) note the fires in WTC 7 prior to collapse. i wouldnt categorize them as an inferno, would you? the bottom was cut. no other way a building falls like that.
The "signature crimping" occurs when the interior columns give way first. This can be accomplished by setting charges, or by fire weakening the main columns to a point of instability.
Good point. I would also imagine that the 757 probably caused massive structural damage. It would have HAD to have taken out some major supports right? I mean the Venezuela building didn't have a jet crash into it.
WTC 7 wasnt hit by a plane. fire ALONE caused its fall.
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granted, the video was put out by 911truth.org but its not doctored. its the same collapse seen by millions now. the "signature" of a controlled demolition is the building "crimping" towards center, then the entire structure falling straight down. this limits collateral damage in confined spaces such as densely populated city blocks. its refered to as "falling into its own footprint." i challenge anybody to tell me this doesnt fit into that category.
also note the building that burned out of control for 15 hours and still stood. that was in venezuela i believe. (that is one of several over the years that burned, but never fell.) note the fires in WTC 7 prior to collapse. i wouldnt categorize them as an inferno, would you? the bottom was cut. no other way a building falls like that.
The "signature crimping" occurs when the interior columns give way first. This can be accomplished by setting charges, or by fire weakening the main columns to a point of instability.
the "crimp" occurs when this is done in continuity, in order, in other words. whether by charges or by damage. LOOK AT THE BUILDING FALL STRAIGHT DOWN. that is an ordered response. random structural damage might have resulted in it falling 1000 different ways, not following the timed, measured, proven results that controlled demolition offers. this is a SCIENCE you know?
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My uncle has worked in demolition his whole life, and he called me on September 12th telling me the same thing about WTC7. I might be willing to believe that the building went down due to fire if it didn't fall so perfectly and at free fall speed. 47 stories tall buildings do not hit the ground in 7 seconds due to fire. Maybe if it was one giant fireball I could see that, but it was very tiny fires sporadically throughout the building.

It's also strange to me that Enron had the majority of the SEC fillings in that building due to the investigation. The Enron story was headline news and disappeared after 9/11. Go try to look for what happened to those being investigated. Nobody was convicted until 2004, and even then, it was only the peons that got busted.
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HMMMM

Yesterday someone attacked me for saying that Paulites are 9/11 wackjobs but look at this all the 9/11 is fishy and we blew up WTC 7 people are all Paulites.

Trouble, Phil, Faithful, Old School the lot of Paulites think the US Gov leveled a building interesting.

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HMMMM

Yesterday someone attacked me for saying that Paulites are 9/11 wackjobs but look at this all the 9/11 is fishy and we blew up WTC 7 people are all Paulites.

Trouble, Phil, Faithful, Old School the lot of Paulites think the US Gov leveled a building interesting.

NEO Hippie freaks
I never said the U.S. government was behind it. All I said was that WTC7 had something fishy going on.

Either way, the Hippie comments are pretty funny coming from you. People who spend the majority of their time in politics should probably avoid throwing hippie stones.
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HMMMM

Yesterday someone attacked me for saying that Paulites are 9/11 wackjobs but look at this all the 9/11 is fishy and we blew up WTC 7 people are all Paulites.

Trouble, Phil, Faithful, Old School the lot of Paulites think the US Gov leveled a building interesting.

NEO Hippie freaks
Uhh...When did I ever say "we" blew up WTC 7 or were behind the attacks? There are a lot of questions that were never properly explained (or addressed at all), not even you can deny this. Nice try though, ass.
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I do not like Hippies not sure how that will hurt me.
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I do not like Hippies not sure how that will hurt me.
Part-time salesman while spending most of your time selling someone else's political agenda? Sounds a lot more like a hippie than what I do.
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HMMMM

Yesterday someone attacked me for saying that Paulites are 9/11 wackjobs but look at this all the 9/11 is fishy and we blew up WTC 7 people are all Paulites.

Trouble, Phil, Faithful, Old School the lot of Paulites think the US Gov leveled a building interesting.

NEO Hippie freaks
nobody is pointing fingers at anybody. this thread is for explanations, inconsistencies, and anything else that bothers anybody from that day. everything mentioned above is legitimite. care to give us an explanation? all you seem to want to do is throw stones.
the "paulites" as you refer to them are also some of the most intelligent, informed posters here.
answer me. if it was "just incompetence", laziness or luck, why wasnt SOMEBODY disciplined? did you watch WTC7 fall? google up ANY contolled demolition and youll see the same pattern.
i, and others, have listed some inconsistencies, do you have any explanations to offer?
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THe Campaign is over and probaly (hopefully) getting ready to work for the man and take a postion with the VA. One of my Iraq buddies has a job there and claims they need a get this community organizer. Just kidding a VA transition center manager in Tampa. Hard to turn down a steady paycheck and helping Vets. I just never wanted to be a Govt emplyee unless it was as a Military man or elected Official but NC is getting killed in this economy. I was gonna pick up a bartending job but the bar owner instead of adding me let people go. I have never seen liqour sales go down but a friend of mine is a liqour rep in Indy and she says her sales are down. people to poor to drink????????
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THe Campaign is over and probaly (hopefully) getting ready to work for the man and take a postion with the VA. One of my Iraq buddies has a job there and claims they need a get this community organizer. Just kidding a VA transition center manager in Tampa. Hard to turn down a steady paycheck and helping Vets. I just never wanted to be a Govt emplyee unless it was as a Military man or elected Official but NC is getting killed in this economy. I was gonna pick up a bartending job but the bar owner instead of adding me let people go. I have never seen liqour sales go down but a friend of mine is a liqour rep in Indy and she says her sales are down. people to poor to drink????????
Restaurants are getting killed right now. Same with bars.

That said, as a bartender, I'm still making close to what I made this summer on the weekends for the most part.
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How are bar sales down people usually drink more in a recession?????? Explain I literally just lost my desire to drink out anymore and have a few at home sometimes but has everyone stopped going out. Rest have been slowing down for about 6 months.
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The entire economy is fucked. Welcome to 2009, guys.
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Back on topic - what really happened on 9/11:

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The entire economy is fucked. Welcome to 2009, guys.
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