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| gun control legislation introduced | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 16 2009, 09:11 AM (326 Views) | |
| sirbrianwilson | Feb 16 2009, 10:57 AM Post #16 |
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| troubleatiu | Feb 16 2009, 10:59 AM Post #17 |
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thats exactly how this shit will go through. |
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| yawnzzz | Feb 16 2009, 11:02 AM Post #18 |
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That means they can inspect a warehouse. They can't come into your home unless you're selling guns. |
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| troubleatiu | Feb 16 2009, 11:10 AM Post #19 |
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im not so sure and are you really? if i own 10 guns and decide to sell one within the parameters of this law, do i qualify to be inspected in the future? it does not specifically exempt private property. |
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| Mr Gray | Feb 16 2009, 11:18 AM Post #20 |
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you would yawn at the thought of your constitutional freedoms eroding before your eyes? What kind of person are you? |
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| boilergrad01 | Feb 16 2009, 11:34 AM Post #21 |
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It will never get through the Senate. Yes the Dems have the majority but Western Dems are pro gun. This will be filibustered plus The Women that replaced Hillary is pro gun they will not get two 60 votes in the Senate |
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| boilergrad01 | Feb 16 2009, 11:34 AM Post #22 |
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This is the dems putting up legislature to appease the far left and blame it on the Repubs |
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| BoilerUpAT | Feb 16 2009, 11:35 AM Post #23 |
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Maybe, but this is just a stepping stone. If only "warehouses" then why not your house? If this passes the floodgates will open for this type of legislature. The fact is that this encroaches upon rights set forth by our founding documents and it should be abolished based simply on that fact alone. |
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| troubleatiu | Feb 16 2009, 11:44 AM Post #24 |
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"Maybe, but this is just a stepping stone. If only "warehouses" then why not your house? If this passes the floodgates will open for this type of legislature. The fact is that this encroaches upon rights set forth by our founding documents and it should be abolished based simply on that fact alone."-boilerupat whats just occurred to me is if were already trying to define the wording of an unpassed bill on a message board, what will happen when lawyers and anti-gunners get ahold of it if it becomes law? there are also parts in there after spelling out specifics in an area contain the clause...and anything else as deemed necessary by the attorney general. these are so far undefined loopholes in the bill. scary shit indeed. |
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| IUCOLTFAN | Feb 16 2009, 11:58 AM Post #25 |
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funny how sir bri will "yawn" at any liberal agenda yet NEVER gives a reason........I guess his constitutional rights are boring and trivial to him? What a true american....... |
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| yawnzzz | Feb 16 2009, 07:01 PM Post #26 |
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It couldn't exempt 'private' property... otherwise every warehouse would be exempt. I'm obviously not for this legislation, but it at least has a purpose unlike 90% of the other bills I read. |
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| BTown11 | Feb 16 2009, 07:06 PM Post #27 |
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finally. |
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| troubleatiu | Feb 16 2009, 07:29 PM Post #28 |
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so if it doesnt exempt private property it could apply to me or anybody else who ever wanted to sell a gun. if everybody is licensed and all firearms registered, it wouldnt be hard for the feds to inspect the premises where that transaction took place whether its a smith & wesson warehouse or a private home. this not only violates the 2nd amendment, but the 4th as well. youre damn right this has a purpose. its to cut down on private, lawful ownership of guns and create a database that could be eventually used for a multitude of purposes. criminals DO NOT abide by the law. thats why they are criminals. all this bill does is restrict lawful citizens ability to own and create a shitload of unnecessary regulations that unfortunately some people will inadvertently violate, therefore banning them from ownership and causing their weapons to be confiscated. its not uncommon for people to own 3 or more weapons: a rifle or shot gun for hunting one for home defense one to carry on their person that alone could exceed a $1500 investment. |
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| BoilerUpAT | Feb 16 2009, 08:02 PM Post #29 |
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Bottom line is that it is un-Constitutional. Period. Standing by and letting any legislation like this get through is unpatriotic at best, disastrous at worst. |
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| yawnzzz | Feb 16 2009, 08:36 PM Post #30 |
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That's a bad misconception. The majority of criminals get guns by having other people purchase them through legal methods. This occurs because there's not a good record of keeping track of who purchased a gun and holding them accountable for acts committed with their gun. Right now, I could drive to Alabama, buy a few handguns, drive to New York and sell them for $5000 each. I could make $50,000 in one trip with 10 guns. Because there's no database of gun purchases, very few of these guns are ever tracked back to the person who purchased them, which makes it very easy to do this. The thinking from Law Enforcement is that if I tried to do this with a national database, they'd have a record of me driving to 10 cities in Alabama and purchasing a handgun at each store. That looks pretty fishy. Right now, none of these places talk to each other, so the people doing this look like just an average citizen wanting one gun with no criminal record. Like I've said, I don't agree with this legislation, but the purpose isn't some fraud like a lot of other bills. There's a lot of law enforcement officers that have lost their lives due to guns purchased legally. |
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