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Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
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Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
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Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
Not everyone can be Lewis Jackson, Homer. :sarcasm:
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Feb 20 2009, 08:50 PM
Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
Who would he guard? Wall will be the other team's starting PG.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
Not everyone can be Lewis Jackson, Homer. :sarcasm:
I'm sure he'd do better defensively than Hulls would.

Non- :sarcasm:
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dcamden03
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dreachon
Feb 20 2009, 08:50 PM
Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
Who would he guard? Wall will be the other team's starting PG.
Who's team won that game?

It wasn't Walls. And Hulls hit five three pointers on him.
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dcamden03
Feb 20 2009, 09:08 PM
dreachon
Feb 20 2009, 08:50 PM
Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
Who would he guard? Wall will be the other team's starting PG.
Who's team won that game?

It wasn't Walls. And Hulls hit five three pointers on him.
Umm, Hulls played well offensively in that game, like I said. And Hulls' team was one of the best AAU teams in the nation, of course they won the game.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dcamden03
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dreachon
Feb 20 2009, 08:50 PM
Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
Who would he guard? Wall will be the other team's starting PG.
He would likely guard the SG. It really depends on who else is on the floor and what team he signs with in the first place. To assume that Hulls would guard Wall no matter what makes no sense. They are generally slower and easier to guard. If Wall is a focal point, the best way to defend him would be to send different defenders at him throughout the game, much like Purdue did to Curry.
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dcamden03
Feb 20 2009, 09:08 PM
dreachon
Feb 20 2009, 08:50 PM
Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
Who would he guard? Wall will be the other team's starting PG.
He would likely guard the SG. It really depends on who else is on the floor and what team he signs with in the first place. To assume that Hulls would guard Wall no matter what makes no sense. They are generally slower and easier to guard. If Wall is a focal point, the best way to defend him would be to send different defenders at him throughout the game, much like Purdue did to Curry.
So you want the barely 6 foot 170 pound Hulls to be guarding the other team's 2?

I'd love to play against a team that you coached.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dcamden03
Feb 20 2009, 09:08 PM
dreachon
Feb 20 2009, 08:50 PM
Man I like this kid. Found this nugget.

On the toughest players he has gone up against in AAU play:

I would have to say the hardest player I’ve played against would be Dexter Strickland, who’s going to North Carolina, and John Wall (undecided). They’re the two best players I’ve ever played against from a guard stand point. Just being able to guard them and see what that’s like, to play at the next level… It’s a whole other level and it’s ridiculous if you really stop and think about it, but I think I’m ready for that level.


Anyone know how he did against those two? I thought I remember his game against Wall being pretty good, but I can't be positive on that.
He did well offensively against Wall, but Wall torched him defensively.
I doubt Crean would have Hulls guard Wall in college.
Who would he guard? Wall will be the other team's starting PG.
He would likely guard the SG. It really depends on who else is on the floor and what team he signs with in the first place. To assume that Hulls would guard Wall no matter what makes no sense. They are generally slower and easier to guard. If Wall is a focal point, the best way to defend him would be to send different defenders at him throughout the game, much like Purdue did to Curry.
So you want the barely 6 foot 170 pound Hulls to be guarding the other team's 2?

I'd love to play against a team that you coached.
Yeah, because if he is a standard spot up shooter you can play tight on him(challenging his jump shot even if you don't block it) since Hulls would likely have a quickness advantage if the 2 decides to drive. PGs are generally the quickest players on the floor, especially while dribbling a basketball. I'm sure you are assuming that every team has a great 2 guard that can do it all and is much quicker dribbling than Hulls is while playing defense.

If talent was equal, my coached team would crush yours......easily.
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Yeah, because if he is a standard spot up shooter you can play tight on him(challenging his jump shot even if you don't block it) since Hulls would likely have a quickness advantage if the 2 decides to drive. PGs are generally the quickest players on the floor, especially while dribbling a basketball. I'm sure you are assuming that every team has a great 2 guard that can do it all and is much quicker dribbling than Hulls is while playing defense.

If talent was equal, my coached team would crush yours......easily.
You assume Hulls would have a quickness advantage defensively over a D1 2 guard.

Good lord, I wouldn't even need equal talent to abuse your team if you played Hulls on my 2 guard.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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Couple things here. Wall is the #1 recruit in the country. Is there someone he hasn't torched? Did he torch Hulls any more than he torched every other player he goes against? What was his line for the game that we would consider this a torching? Was the human torch from the fantasic four there? Torch torch torch.

2 - Absolutely agree with Evil on this one. You throw multiple people at Wall defensively and keep him on his toes. I don't think a coach would expect any one player to guard him for the entire game. Furthermore, what if the team Hulls is on is playing zone? Then this entire discussion is moot.
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Couple things here. Wall is the #1 recruit in the country. Is there someone he hasn't torched? Did he torch Hulls any more than he torched every other player he goes against? What was his line for the game that we would consider this a torching? Was the human torch from the fantasic four there? Torch torch torch.

2 - Absolutely agree with Evil on this one. You throw multiple people at Wall defensively and keep him on his toes. I don't think a coach would expect any one player to guard him for the entire game. Furthermore, what if the team Hulls is on is playing zone? Then this entire discussion is moot.
You asked how he did against Wall. I told you want happened. Hulls did well offensively, and Wall was outstanding offensively against Hulls. Call it torched, abused, beat down, took advantage of, whatever you want to call it. Thats what happened. I wasn't saying Hulls did any worse, thats just what happened.

IE One didn't play much zone all summer. Bloomington South played mainly zone against Teague and Pike.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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asked how he did against Wall. I told you want happened. Hulls did well offensively, and Wall was outstanding offensively against Hulls. Call it torched, abused, beat down, took advantage of, whatever you want to call it. Thats what happened. I wasn't saying Hulls did any worse, thats just what happened.

IE One didn't play much zone all summer. Bloomington South played mainly zone against Teague and Pike.
I wasn't saying you were wrong, just wondering what the basis for being "torched" is. If Wall averages 25/game and Hulls gave up 27 to him, then it sounds like he did pretty average. If he gave up 35, then I'd say he got torched.

I guess what I'm trying to determine is, was Hulls any worse than any other player that has tried to defend Wall?
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