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dreachon Feb 25 2009, 11:13 AM Post #31
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I think at first he denied that he was even present at the bar and that was found to be false. Still, if he gave one of his buddies his gun to go shoot someone, then that's no better than Pacman Jones sending one of his thugs to shoot the guy at the nightclub.
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dçamden03 Feb 25 2009, 11:14 AM Post #32
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Feb 25 2009, 11:11 AM
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I think Obat isright thought that it's still illegal to have your gun used in an attempted murder no matter who fired it.
Not sure if it's that way everywhere dreach (probably not in Mexico :) ), but i distinctly remember then saying that it is in Philadelphia.
Then why isn't he being prosecuted for breaking that law?

You do realize that the guy who got shot is also giving conflicting reports, and has been convicted of many misdemeanors involving false police reports in the case, right?

So you are choosing to take random guy's story over random guy's story? Hell, the prosecutor didn't even say she thought it was Harrison, just she thought she knew who it was.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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obatskii Feb 25 2009, 11:17 AM Post #33
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See my previous post.

Again he'll probably never get convicted, but just looking at the facts of the case, especially the one where he already lied about it, and I'm not sure how you could say he wasn't involved in some way.

I think you probably think that he did it as well, but you won't convict him until there is evidence, correct?
In that case, we both agree.
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dçamden03 Feb 25 2009, 11:20 AM Post #34
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See my previous post.

Again he'll probably never get convicted, but just looking at the facts of the case, especially the one where he already lied about it, and I'm not sure how you could say he wasn't involved in some way.

I think you probably think that he did it as well, but you won't convict him until there is evidence, correct?
In that case, we both agree.
I have no clue at all if he did. As does anybody else besides Marvin Harrison himself. So I'm not going to group him in with someone who was convicted with evidence of shooting a gun.

I was saying, if having a gun you own involved in a shooting is against the law, why isn't he being convicted of that since its known to be his gun? I'm questioning the validity of that law.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dreachon Feb 25 2009, 11:33 AM Post #35
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My personal opinion:

Harrison gets in a fight with a guy in his bar.
Kicks guy out of bar.
Guy gets shot in front of bar with Harrison's gun

Frankly, I don't care if Harrison pulled the trigger himself. I don't know what happened. But I know what didn't happen. Here it is.

What didn't happen is that Harrison kicked the guy out of the bar and told everyone to leave him alone. Then, one of his friends was so upset over the incident that he went running to find Harrison's secretly stashed, custom made Belgian gun. This friend was really pissed and wanted to kill the guy. He comes running out of the bar ready to shoot and Marvin is hot on his heels screaming, "no don't shoot him! I don't want anybody to get hurt. Peace, love, and happyness y'all." But the friend doesn't listen and shoots the guy in the hand.

That's what didn't happen.
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So you have no clue what happened, nobody has any evidence of him shooting the guy, yet you are willing to say he did it?

Thats sad. This may worse than your Dorien Bryant smoking pot theory.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dreachon Feb 25 2009, 11:38 AM Post #37
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So you have no clue what happened, nobody has any evidence of him shooting the guy, yet you are willing to say he did it?

Thats sad. This may worse than your Dorien Bryant smoking pot theory.
Apparantly you didn't read very thoroughly. Quote from my post.

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So you have no clue what happened, nobody has any evidence of him shooting the guy, yet you are willing to say he did it?

Thats sad. This may worse than your Dorien Bryant smoking pot theory.
Apparantly you didn't read very thoroughly. Quote from my post.

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I don't know what happened.
But you lumped him together with someone who is known to fire a gun at someone (albeit himself). Figured since you did that, you believe that he was the shooter.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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dreachon Feb 25 2009, 11:42 AM Post #39
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So you have no clue what happened, nobody has any evidence of him shooting the guy, yet you are willing to say he did it?

Thats sad. This may worse than your Dorien Bryant smoking pot theory.
Apparantly you didn't read very thoroughly. Quote from my post.

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I don't know what happened.
But you lumped him together with someone who is known to fire a gun at someone (albeit himself). Figured since you did that, you believe that he was the shooter.
Actually what I said was IF he gave the gun to one of his friends to shoot someone then he would be no better than Pacman Jones who did the same thing.
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I just realized you were talking about my orginal comment with Plaxico Burress. He still owns a gun doesn't he? I think it's reasonable to assume that has fired it before, even if it's just for practice. So yes, he and Burress can still go practice their "skills" together.
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Actually what I said was IF he gave the gun to one of his friends to shoot someone then he would be no better than Pacman Jones who did the same thing.
"He can go hang out with Plaxico Burress and practice their "skills" together." -Dreachon


Harrison grouped with a person convicted of firing a firearm.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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I just realized you were talking about my orginal comment with Plaxico Burress. He still owns a gun doesn't he? I think it's reasonable to assume that has fired it before, even if it's just for practice. So yes, he and Burress can still go practice their "skills" together.
So you were referencing them practicing at the practice range as a recreation, and not their supposed involvements in criminal incidents?
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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I just realized you were talking about my orginal comment with Plaxico Burress. He still owns a gun doesn't he? I think it's reasonable to assume that has fired it before, even if it's just for practice. So yes, he and Burress can still go practice their "skills" together.
So you were referencing them practicing at the practice range as a recreation, and not their supposed involvements in criminal incidents?
I was merely pointing out that they both (in all liklihood) enjoy shooting guns.
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Cam, in this entire thread have you told us your opinion on the subject? I believe that Harrison was in some way involved in the attempted murder of another individual. What do you think about the incident?
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Cam, in this entire thread have you told us your opinion on the subject? I believe that Harrison was in some way involved in the attempted murder of another individual. What do you think about the incident?
I have no clue. Doesn't seem like anyone else does either. I know a gun that he owned was involved, other than that, nadda. I'm not going to jump to conclusions without facts and evidence. If I saw the whole thing, maybe I could have an opinion, but I didn't.

I'm not going to think someone is guilty because it seems like it was a situation in which one would shoot at someone. Its kind of like a year ago or so when Briggs from the Bears wrecked his sports car, called a buddy to pick him, left the scene, and then reported the car stolen. Was he drunk when it happened? Quite possibly, but I have no clue so I'm not going to make that assumption.
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“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

"I’d take him to the ends of the earth — I’d want him playing for me.” - Bo Ryan on Robbie Hummel

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