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Providence takes down #1 Pitt
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MSU might possibly be the worst team ranked in the top 10 ever
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
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i think venues can be neutral. As FU said above, two teams can go very far away from their location and it would be very neutral. Think about a Minnesota/Cleveland Super Bowl in Dallas or something like that.
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
Yes so what do you think about the World Cup or Olympic soccer where the host country has like 25% more chance to make the finals? Many have argued that a host country should not be allowed to compete in the CoO (country of origin) until the final match.
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
Yes so what do you think about the World Cup or Olympic soccer where the host country has like 25% more chance to make the finals? Many have argued that a host country should not be allowed to compete in the CoO (country of origin) until the final match.
I get it, but everyone acknowledges that the host country has an advantage. What I don't like is when Illinois gets trounced by USC in the Rose Bowl or OSU loses to LSU in Louisiana and everyone talks about how the Big Ten can't win on a neutral field.
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
Yes so what do you think about the World Cup or Olympic soccer where the host country has like 25% more chance to make the finals? Many have argued that a host country should not be allowed to compete in the CoO (country of origin) until the final match.
I get it, but everyone acknowledges that the host country has an advantage. What I don't like is when Illinois gets trounced by USC in the Rose Bowl or OSU loses to LSU in Louisiana and everyone talks about how the Big Ten can't win on a neutral field.
Illinois could not beat USC at home in December

I'll give you the Sugar Bowl one

Or OK playing For in the orange Bowl or back when the U was good playing the orange Bowl at home

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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
Yes so what do you think about the World Cup or Olympic soccer where the host country has like 25% more chance to make the finals? Many have argued that a host country should not be allowed to compete in the CoO (country of origin) until the final match.
I get it, but everyone acknowledges that the host country has an advantage. What I don't like is when Illinois gets trounced by USC in the Rose Bowl or OSU loses to LSU in Louisiana and everyone talks about how the Big Ten can't win on a neutral field.
Haha those are very good points, I watched both those games it was a brutal home field for both winners. The worst was when Bowling Green got to play a "neutral" game over some Big east team in Louisville. I remember seeing the game it it was all BG fans.
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Agreed on Illinois not beating USC anywhere, just using it as an example of why it's dumb to say they play on a "neutral field".
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
Yes so what do you think about the World Cup or Olympic soccer where the host country has like 25% more chance to make the finals? Many have argued that a host country should not be allowed to compete in the CoO (country of origin) until the final match.
I get it, but everyone acknowledges that the host country has an advantage. What I don't like is when Illinois gets trounced by USC in the Rose Bowl or OSU loses to LSU in Louisiana and everyone talks about how the Big Ten can't win on a neutral field.
Haha those are very good points, I watched both those games it was a brutal home field for both winners. The worst was when Bowling Green got to play a "neutral" game over some Big east team in Louisville. I remember seeing the game it it was all BG fans.
Heck, how about Purdue having to play Central Michigan in Michigan for their bowl game? I saw it and it was ALL CMU fans. Deifnitely not a neutral field.
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On a side note, I don't like the term "neutral court" or "neutral field". There is rarely neutrality no matter where the game is played.
True for the large BCS schools but for mid majors and smaller schools it would be true.

Lets say Fresno State played St Marys in Tampa Florida? I think that would be pretty neutral. Or lets go even bigger how about a Syracuse vs Clemson game in Seattle?
I hear ya. Still, those situations are rare and so there is rarely a true neautral court.
Yes so what do you think about the World Cup or Olympic soccer where the host country has like 25% more chance to make the finals? Many have argued that a host country should not be allowed to compete in the CoO (country of origin) until the final match.
I get it, but everyone acknowledges that the host country has an advantage. What I don't like is when Illinois gets trounced by USC in the Rose Bowl or OSU loses to LSU in Louisiana and everyone talks about how the Big Ten can't win on a neutral field.
Haha those are very good points, I watched both those games it was a brutal home field for both winners. The worst was when Bowling Green got to play a "neutral" game over some Big east team in Louisville. I remember seeing the game it it was all BG fans.
Heck, how about Purdue having to play Central Michigan in Michigan for their bowl game? I saw it and it was ALL CMU fans. Deifnitely not a neutral field.
The fact that Joe "I own the Mac" Tiller was at the heel was comforting, at least. God the very fact we had to play a Mac team for our bowl game, just horrible. Although it was an exciting game to watch fucking northwestern this year would of beat that Mich team by 40 points.
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The fact that Joe "I own the Mac" Tiller was at the heel was comforting, at least. God the very fact we had to play a Mac team for our bowl game, just horrible. Although it was an exciting game to watch fucking northwestern this year would of beat that Mich team by 40 points.
That team cared about that game about as much as I cared about the Bassmasters Championship last year. Motivation was a pretty key part to the under achievements of the past few years IMO.

They spent their Christmas in Detroit preparing to play against a MAC school that they had already beat. Yawn.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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The fact that Joe "I own the Mac" Tiller was at the heel was comforting, at least. God the very fact we had to play a Mac team for our bowl game, just horrible. Although it was an exciting game to watch fucking northwestern this year would of beat that Mich team by 40 points.
That team cared about that game about as much as I cared about the Bassmasters Championship last year. Motivation was a pretty key part to the under achievements of the past few years IMO.

They spent their Christmas in Detroit preparing to play against a MAC school that they had already beat. Yawn.
Agreed, but had they lost then everyone would have said that Purdue lost to a MAC team on a neutral field. Would have been untrue because the field wasn't neutral.
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Agreed, but had they lost then everyone would have said that Purdue lost to a MAC team on a neutral field. Would have been untrue because the field wasn't neutral.
True.

Fortunately, nobody would have noticed or cared, including one of the teams playing the game. The talent of that team always overshadowed the production. It was kind of sad really.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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